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Posted (edited)

Kinda hard to disagree with hundreds of pages of supporting evidence.

Edited by darkblade77
I can has grammar
Posted

Meh, who cares about CS1 anyway, CS2 is looking much better all around. No more BS big damage combos into mixup -> death. Besides, the tiers are pretty much decided by this point:

Better characters: Litchi, Bang, Hazama, Tao, Arakune, Valkenhayn.

Good Characters: Hakumen, Ragna, Carl, Mu, Lambda.

Ok to not-so-ok: Jin, Makoto, Noel, Tsubaki, Tager, Rachel.

Making an order out of these is useless nitpicking. It would be better if everyone learned the matchups instead of bickering about whether there's a .5 advantage or not. -_-;

Posted
Meh, who cares about CS1 anyway, CS2 is looking much better all around. No more BS big damage combos into mixup -> death. Besides, the tiers are pretty much decided by this point:

Better characters: Litchi, Bang, Hazama, Tao, Arakune, Valkenhayn.

Good Characters: Hakumen, Ragna, Carl, Mu, Lambda.

Ok to not-so-ok: Jin, Makoto, Noel, Tsubaki, Tager, Rachel.

Making an order out of these is useless nitpicking. It would be better if everyone learned the matchups instead of bickering about whether there's a .5 advantage or not. -_-;

Makoto should be A tier, imo. Look at who you're placing her next to. She doesn't fit in with them at all.

Posted

Fien.

Revised Matchup Chart

Better characters: Litchi, Bang, Hazama, Tao, Arakune, Valkenhayn.

Good Characters: Hakumen, Ragna, Carl, Mu, Lambda, Makoto, Jin.

Ok to not-so-ok: Noel, Tsubaki, Tager, Rachel.

Horizontal placement is not significant.

Disclaimer: This matchup chart is 100% correct.

There's your revised matchup chart. Let's nip the inevitable flame war in the bud.

Posted

It would be better if you haven't posted it at all, it's seems to just breed dumb shit in response.

Knowing the numbers doesn't change the game. It doesn't magically make a matchup better or worse for you. Those numbers are nowhere near as important as knowing the actual matchup, knowing what the opponent can do and what you can do to prevent or overcome it.

I guess what I'm trying to say is stop trying, and just play the goddamned game.

Posted

People who take a tier list seriously are on the same level with people who take statistics seriously.

Because they're really the same to my eyes.

Posted
Fien.

Revised Matchup Chart

Better characters: Litchi, Bang, Hazama, Tao, Arakune, Valkenhayn.

Good Characters: Hakumen, Ragna, Carl, Mu, Lambda, Makoto, Jin.

Ok to not-so-ok: Noel, Tsubaki, Tager, Rachel.

Horizontal placement is not significant.

Disclaimer: This matchup chart is 100% correct.

There's your revised matchup chart. Let's nip the inevitable flame war in the bud.

This looks mostly accurate.

Posted (edited)

A matchup chart? I don't think is needed, I mean pretty much any of us know or at least have an idea about it after all. I think matchup charts are usually confused with tier list because charts are a "numeric" way to partially justify a tier position, at least that's how I see it.

Also I don´t think is the end for CSI, I mean the gap from CSI to CSII is not as big as from CT to CSI. CSI is basically a game with different mechanics and ONE less character (at least from the console point of view lol). I'm planning to keep playing it alongside CSII because there are things that I really want from CSII but also there are some that I just dont like at all.

Edited by Agent P
Posted

Ok, this won't work. Asking for thread to be closed. Dunno why I thought this could breed something positive.

Dumb optimism I guess.

Posted
Fien.

Revised Matchup Chart

Better characters: Litchi, Bang, Hazama, Tao, Arakune, Valkenhayn.

Good Characters: Hakumen, Ragna, Carl, Mu, Lambda, Makoto, Jin.

Ok to not-so-ok: Noel, Tsubaki, Tager, Rachel.

Horizontal placement is not significant.

Disclaimer: This matchup chart is 100% correct.

There's your revised matchup chart. Let's nip the inevitable flame war in the bud.

I got your fucking revised matchup chart right here

Better players: Tokido

:psyduck: players: DacidBro

Why do they even bother players: West Coast

Posted
Ok, this won't work. Asking for thread to be closed. Dunno why I thought this could breed something positive.

Dumb optimism I guess.

It's because the last match-up chart went so badly near its end, for dozens of pages. It'll take a while for the stigma of that to fade from everyone's memory. I'm sure there'll be a time for it to return, but it definitely won't be for CS1.
Posted

Doing well at SBO = your character is auto S tier.

Slash Jam was SSS tier thanks to KA2.

Pretty sure Johnny and Bridget jumped up to SSS tier too once they got 2nd place at SBO one year.

YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

America is stupid.

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