soujiro seta Posted May 10, 2011 Posted May 10, 2011 Lets see! Burst system makes people desperate to not get guard crushed...yeah thats it. T_T Lol, people now see what CS1 carl/noel have experienced for a long time.
natearistata Posted May 11, 2011 Posted May 11, 2011 lol, day 1 and I already hate Tager again. what can I say, it sucked while it lasted, peace out Tager boards.
OrionXElite Posted May 11, 2011 Posted May 11, 2011 Support the scene we have scrubs too! Also fun things to gab at for everyone: 6B FC is useless! try to break 3k with it I dare you. Tager's damage makes me rage. 360>walk 2B is still hard as balls. Arakune is even more annoying than before. IB nerf hurts us in amazing ways. If you have a godlike confirm and you're pointblank and have Spark Bolt you can break 3k: 6B>2C>AC>Spark Bolt>j.2C>2B>2C>AC>BGadget does 3.1k...Other than that I do some weirdo confirm combo since it actually uses a Fatal only link: 6BFC>6C>ASledge>5C>6A>AC>BGadget does 2.5k. I fucking hate his 6B now... But 5C>6A standing is fucking amazing now. Makes 5A on Gadget oki kinda dangerous now since you actually get some decent damage off of it on CH. But it really sucks they changed the P1 of his 2C to 90. Makes most Fatal combos not work anymore. Mine sure as hell doesn't. Instead of 2CFC>AC>ACWhiff>6C>j.2C>2B>ASledge>5C>6A>2C>AC>BGadget I have to do this: 2CFC>AC>ACWhiff>6C>j.2C>2B>ASledge>2B>2C>AC>BGadget for about 3800 DMG and 50/51 Meter. OH and 6C>2D in the corner on Fatal is fucking hot. But its really retarded if they're magnetized, sometimes the pull will make them fly the wrong way out of the corner:v:
TagerTime Posted May 11, 2011 Posted May 11, 2011 Support the scene we have scrubs too! 6B FC is useless! try to break 3k with it I dare you. not true its acutaly easy and can give you decent damage or a great reset FC 6B > 6B > 6C > j.C >j.D > AC (if they tech after j.D hold AC for reset + grabs all airtechs) (if they dont tech after j.D) >ACx2> 6B > Asledge >2B > 2C > AC 3011 >Spark>MTW 3771>Terra 4471 > Gadget 4571 To see most of Tagers strongest combos not already shown in that japanese video. download my combo list i posted in the combo thread. im almost done making videos of all of them. Tager can still do barely over 4k damage on his fatals mag or non mag for every char, there just done differently now. ill post my combo list in this thread too Iron Tager CS2 combos v5.doc
A.X.I.S. Posted May 11, 2011 Author Posted May 11, 2011 (edited) I am in shock dude...I should take that link and add it to the combo thread. Also if you guys haven't fought Arakune yet then your gonna have so much fun. I...AM...NOT....LYING! Well fuck this game...if you main Tager put on your troll face because your chances of winning goes up when you troll. Edit: I want to say I love you guys and I hope you enjoy the year of the "Give 0 fucks". Edited May 11, 2011 by A.X.I.S.
A.X.I.S. Posted May 11, 2011 Author Posted May 11, 2011 Double posting. Timing for GF>RC collider has been changed a bit and the worst of the worst happened. Mike will not be happy about this. GF>RC 5D is strange now. you have to do it a certain way to make it combo, when I tried it didn't combo into gadget. Which might be a glitch too not sure. I seen a vid when GF>RC 5D worked no problem. Anyways if your opponent is mashing when you do RC 5D (The 5D won't combo.) then they get CH'd no questions asked.
Isorropia Posted May 11, 2011 Posted May 11, 2011 Er, that doesn't sound so bad, if you could get the tech down for it then RC collider whiff was always a stronger mixup than RC 5D (at least from my experience).
Manta Posted May 11, 2011 Posted May 11, 2011 How is 360A with 100 heat unburstable death? Can you really do 360A MTW TB?
Isorropia Posted May 11, 2011 Posted May 11, 2011 How is 360A with 100 heat unburstable death? Can you really do 360A MTW TB? I thought of it as 360A > GF RC > collider > collider whiff > MTW Does that work? If not, then yeah, what's the optimal?
Manta Posted May 11, 2011 Posted May 11, 2011 I think its 360A > GF RC > 5C > MTW That works if you take "unburstable" to mean "You can burst but you'll reset yourself if you do".
Astaroth136 Posted May 11, 2011 Posted May 11, 2011 I am in shock dude...I should take that link and add it to the combo thread. Also if you guys haven't fought Arakune yet then your gonna have so much fun. I...AM...NOT....LYING! Well fuck this game...if you main Tager put on your troll face because your chances of winning goes up when you troll. Edit: I want to say I love you guys and I hope you enjoy the year of the "Give 0 fucks". Axis, is it really that bad? I haven't gotten to try CS2 yet.
mAc Chaos Posted May 11, 2011 Posted May 11, 2011 Well, he thinks the CS2 Haku matchup went straight to hell after we played last night. I don't think it's that bad though.
shindavid07 Posted May 11, 2011 Posted May 11, 2011 the matchups sucks for tager but it's not as bad as CT though...
Manta Posted May 11, 2011 Posted May 11, 2011 the matchups sucks for tager but it's not as bad as CT though... Ah, but the true question is, is it as bad as CS or worse?
shindavid07 Posted May 11, 2011 Posted May 11, 2011 IMO, it's worse than CS1 but better than CT...only because Tager has options now The match-ups are pretty much the same except for Carl, Rachel, and a few other characters The match-up with Carl is a lot harder in cs2......it's so dumb...
A.X.I.S. Posted May 12, 2011 Author Posted May 12, 2011 That works if you take "unburstable" to mean "You can burst but you'll reset yourself if you do". Yep 360A>GF>5C>MTW is 3.6k and if you burst you'll die anyways. 360B>236A>RC MTW does 5.1k and its for the kill as well. Axis, is it really that bad? I haven't gotten to try CS2 yet. I win by being a troll now...I always believe in saving random for when I need it. Now i have to play random to stay on my toes. Also the Noel match up...I am gonna do a write up on it ASAP. Your gonna hate it...I don't but you will. this ib nerf be fucking my game ALL the way up Same here but then I realize I can still IB 720 jump in's and then I was in love again.
mAc Chaos Posted May 12, 2011 Posted May 12, 2011 Do one on the Haku matchup. If you think you can yet.
A.X.I.S. Posted May 12, 2011 Author Posted May 12, 2011 I will not right now. I need to study the match up more. One day won't be enough...but in the cases like Noel and Jin its a easy write up.
mAc Chaos Posted May 12, 2011 Posted May 12, 2011 How come for Noel / Jin it's an easy write up? You had one day for them too.
A.X.I.S. Posted May 12, 2011 Author Posted May 12, 2011 Because Noel still has to do dumb risky shit to get damage which is nothing that will ever change and Jin is pretty much CT Jin with more annoying mix up.
LuminAbyss Posted May 12, 2011 Posted May 12, 2011 Charging 6A What do. On a serious note, how come Japanese players dismissed the usefulness of 6A? I don't see it often used in CS2 arcade vids, but it seems like a really really good gimmick from what I've seen today.
A.X.I.S. Posted May 12, 2011 Author Posted May 12, 2011 Its because its a gimmick. I am just very skilled at using it.
LuminAbyss Posted May 12, 2011 Posted May 12, 2011 Most everything Tager has is a gimmick, I don't see a reason not to use this one if it's pretty scary when used correctly, right?
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