Afro-Demon Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 (edited) I figure that this thread will just become terrible in a few days time. It's also really too early for any good speculation to happen for tiers. I'm just putting this up as something like a garbage bin so we can keep the tier fanboy talk here and not in character gameplay threads. I'll post the phony japanese one for lulz and then one I've been thinking about from all that I'm hearing on the character boards. Dislcaimer: Please try only to post with validity and reason. If you're gonna put a list of your own, explain some of the odder choices you have with reason. Don't want flame wars if possible and stay away from anything else that will derail the thread. Keep in mind that this thread is just pure speculation, and that the information provided throughout is based on such, so do not get carried away with reactions and try to just understand that these are more opinion than fact. Please only post factual information based some evidence, such as the JBBS, match videos, ect. Let the banter begin. Dice Generated list S: Hakumen, Mu-12, Taokaka A: Platinum, Rachel, Arakune, Litchi, Tager, Valkenhayn B: Makoto, Ragna, Hazama, Jin, Lambda-11, Noel, Tsubaki C: Bang, Relius D: Carl My tier list that no one cares about. S:Relius, Hakumen A:Valkenhayn, Mu-12, Taokaka, Hazama, Jin, Noel, Carl, Rachel, Bang B:Platinum, Tager, A-11, Arakune, Makoto, Ragna, Tsubaki, Litchi I'll be too busy with school to actually watch this thread, so have fun with your pointless talking. I just want this to stay in here and NOT in the character discussion threads where I actually read stuff. Edited October 16, 2011 by Afro-Demon
YukiBlue Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 (edited) This thread is going to turn to shit SO fast. WELP YUKIBLUE TEAR LIST GO S: Hakumen~Mu-12, Platinum A: Valkenhayn, Hazama, Relius, Taokaka, Carl, Bang B: Litchi, Jin, Noel, Arakune, Ragna, Rachel, Tsubaki, Lambda, Makoto T: Tager Amended. Edited October 16, 2011 by YukiBlue
Tong Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 Taokaka A? AND better than Hazama? Makoto better than Ragna? AND TAger better than almost everyone else? Wow
Afro-Demon Posted October 16, 2011 Author Posted October 16, 2011 (edited) I think the only outrageous calls I made in this list would be Relius at the top, Litchi at the bottom, and possibly Tager. Relius is a beast. Think Carl, but with more health, more primers, better movement, more range, more damage in the corner, a fast doll with even faster health regen, and safe/ish jumps because of doll aerials. It think the only thing he loses to Carl in is mid screen reset potential and cross over ability. He currently gets 3K mid screen and I heard somewhere that he could reach 7K in the corner with meter. I'll try to find that video. He's completely new, so his ability to grow is higher than the others', even with balance changes. He reminds me of CS1 Valkenhayn. Just pure destruction because of the numbers he can chug out and has a very effective game plan. Litchi from what I've been reading on her boards say that she has gotten some overall damage nerfs, and her videos do show it. She lost her j.b>j.c>j.b tricks which accounted for some of her most damaging combo's in CS2. It's quite possible that I may be underestimating her though, considering I don't follow her thread as much as others. Tager...being good...I thought was a myth. However this time, he actually seems adequate. Quite a few of his attack levels got increased. He can make combos now from about any starter, including his 5A. His 3C although no longer gives hard knockdown, is special cancellable and is better jump prevention because of it. His Voltic Charge has been buffed to where some speculate that it can be used as an anti air>720. And while his magentized combo's deal slightly less damage than before, his heat gain is incredible. If you're magnetized and he hits you with 5A, he can get 63 heat from the combo from it. He can save it, or finish the combo with Magna Tech Wheel...everytime. That would be a consistent 4K so long as you're magnetized. I know this won't make him really good, but he's definitely not terrible now with these changes. Edit: AGAIN, please remember to post reasons for claims some consider outrageous. I know this thread will turn to shit and probably closed in a day or two, but try to keep it civil, on topic, within reason, and based on current information. This is only a speculation thread, and not in any way a foretelling of what may truly be to come as the real tier list for BBSCSEX. Edited October 16, 2011 by Afro-Demon
Chazmobile Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 Lol this thread is amazingly pointless but here goes: SSSSS++++: Ivan Ooze, CT Baden Baden Lily and FRKZ sound bites (Pre Patch) SSS: Bang, Hakumen, Tager, Kenshiro, Relius Dat aSS+: Mu-12 S++: Hype Niggas, Rachel, Hazama A: Arakune, Ragna, Valkenhayn B: Makoto, Lambda, Tsubaki, Taokaka C: Litchi, Platinum, Carl Pussy/Whiny: Jin, Noel Also, Yuki, you forgot Rachel. >=( TL;DR: This game is BALANCED.
Mightfo Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 JP lolwattroll list S: Hakumen, Mu-12, Taokaka A: Platinum, Rachel, Arakune, Litchi, Tager, Valkenhayn B: Makoto, Ragna, Hazama, Jin, Lambda-11, Noel, Tsubaki C: Bang, Relius D: Carl NO THAT IS A TIER LIST MADE BY A DICE GENERATOR IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH JAPANESE PLAYERS
YukiBlue Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 The game looks fucking silly. Combos look ridiculous now. Tager j.2C mid colider combo?
Chazmobile Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 The game looks fucking silly. Combos look ridiculous now. Tager j.2C mid combo? God forbid he might just have something viable? The fuck is this shit in my BB.
YukiBlue Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 Fuck you freemobile dodging me with this "hangover" shit. Also. Added Rachel. I can see why everyone places Relius so high. But he really looks like he needs ignis, and she dies hella quick...
Chazmobile Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 (edited) Fuck you freemobile dodging me with this "hangover" shit. Also. Added Rachel. I can see why everyone places Relius so high. But he really looks like he needs ignis, and she dies hella quick... Though my skills at BB are slowly going like my interest with the game, my dodging skills remain intact. Honestly, no character at the moment strikes me as particularly dominant this early ala CS1 Bang/Litchi or even CS2 Makoto. Obviously there are some which stand out a bit but if I was to put my opinion into something remotely feasible it would go something like this: Strong: Hakumen, Mu-12, Bang, Rachel, Relius, Hazama, Valk, Plat, Possibly Raggie Slightly less so: Everyone else Characters I have no clue on: Tao, Litchi, Carl The order horizontally has no meaning. Edited October 16, 2011 by Chazmobile
Kuuhaku Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 Why was this thread even made? The game has only been out for two weeks.
Hamakusa Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 Tier lists suck... Just play with the characters that you like ._.
dioxideUniversa Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 My favorite thing about this thread is probably the fact that it starts with an RNG tier list. I think "favorite" is too strong a word, tho...
Afro-Demon Posted October 17, 2011 Author Posted October 17, 2011 This thread was made so that this topic talk, ect. would be kept out of the character discussion threads. In other words, only for idiots to flock here instead of where I actually learn things.
Star-Demon Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 I speculate that: Litchi: Litchi will, at first, lose a lot and appear lower tier. I have a feeling that as player ssettle in that she'll either even out, with the optimistic possibility she'll go up, given that it turns out her corner game isn't actually nerfed. Noel: Noel is going down in tier. Bang: Bang is going up in Tier. Bangs are very hype, and are very positive. They will make Bang work. Carl: Carl may or may not break even - it will really depend on how plays use C attacks and new buffs. Relius: Relius will be high tier because people will be playing the shit out of him and the match will be new. He looks strong, though, so it's possible he will be Mid to high tier. Mu: Despite buffs, may not go up or down. Lambda: Same story as Mu. I don't think Lambda will be any better or worse enough to warrant a change in position. Hazama: Probably won't move up or down. Makoto: Lots of nerfs, probably will be A-tier. It's possible she might be getting it hard come time. Platinum: Platinum's going up. Unnngh... Arakune: Probably won't move up or down, but watch out. Hakumen: I think Hakumen will go up in tier - he had a very good win at EVO and is very hype, so people may cultivate the new Hakumen. He got some serious buffs for EVO reward. Rachel: I think Rachel is going down, but I don't see why she needed to. CS2 was better than CS1. Valkenhayn: Valk is up in the air right now for me. Everyone will just have to wait. Taokaka: Also a tossup. Ragna: Ragna might perform better, but enough to go up? We'll see. Jin: Jin might go up in tier. Tager: Tager, despite the changes, will probably stay bottom tier. If Tager goes up in tier then it's probably the case they gave him too much damage against low HP characters that just can't zone the shit out of him CT Nu style, and it might get patched out. Okay - That's my contribution. Off to bed.
Nakkiel Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 Hakumen: I think Hakumen will go up in tier - he had a very good win at EVO and is very hype, so people may cultivate the new Hakumen. He got some serious buffs for EVO reward. LOL
pktazn Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 @Star-Demon: I like how you didn't put Tsubaki on your list.
Aureliano Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 And just like that, Star-Demon validated the existence of this thread.
KD Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 I speculate that: Tsubaki will be nonexistent tier. OMFG I AM UPSET. WHY WOULD U SPECULATE THAT.
Urichinan Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 Spirit Juice should just IP Ban anyone who tries to make another Tier List thread. Seriously, the last one was closed for a reason, we don't need this ignorance in here. On another note, lol Tsubaki.
Mightfo Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 (edited) if only all prominent mods were apart from saying stupid shit like "litchi got the rachel treatment and is bottom tier" a few weeks into cs2 Real question for knowledgable people to maybe turn this thread to some real use: How is overall damage for each character looking relative to CS2? Damage overall nerfed in both midscreen and corner, or overall buffed in corner but nerfed midscreen, etc.. Edited October 17, 2011 by Mightfo
YukiBlue Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 (edited) The thread is what you make it. And so far the worst posts have been from the ones asking for a lock. Dat reverse logic In response. I think Mu will be a higher tier due to the fact her biggest nerf was losing a Jump Cancel on 2C. She gained a new dimension to her distortion and her Oki is possibly the best in the game. But of course, Im bias. Mu is the greatest character in da gaem Edited October 17, 2011 by YukiBlue
Mightfo Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 The thread is what you make it. And so far the worst posts have been from the ones asking for a lock. Dat mirror logic The world needs more of your informative and useful tier lists?
atdsutm Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 if only all prominent mods were apart from saying stupid shit like "litchi got the rachel treatment and is bottom tier" a few weeks into cs2 Real question for knowledgable people to maybe turn this thread to some real use: How is overall damage for each character looking relative to CS2? Damage overall nerfed in both midscreen and corner, or overall buffed in corner but nerfed midscreen, etc.. mid screen damage is the same or a little bit stronger. corner damage nerf for the majority. less midscreen to corner types of combos.
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