Blazblue Pad Warrior COME IN!!!!!

[Skye]

Advantages of playing on stick;

Your thumbs don't get tired.

It can take the abuse without breaking.

Plus, you know......

Added precision, better response time, capable of complete customization, easier to fix, can go to SBO quals, EVO (notwithstanding the game you play being featured or not), bitches, voter registration, etc etc

[Haven]

I've been playing fighting games for quite awhile and haven't had to buy a new pad yet, luckily.

I never get tired of using the pad either, it doesn't hurt my thumbs personally, but then again, I use analog on the 360 controller and I don't play the PS3 for extended time, lol.

I can use stick just as well as pad honestly, but I just can't afford it, I need to take the time to invest in one.

[Skye]

Another Advantage.

You can play on both Xbox and PS3 without worrying about "changing" controllers.

[Orihalcon]

Advantages of playing on stick;

Your thumbs don't get tired.

You're doing it wrong if that's what's happening.

[Star-Demon]

Donate for controllers for me to throw.

[Orihalcon]

Considering you're an even bigger dumbass than I am, I feel that would just be fueling your stupidity.

[Skye]

You're doing it wrong if that's what's happening.

If your thumbs aren't getting tired?

[Orihalcon]

Probably should've phrased that better. If your thumbs ARE getting tired then you're doing it wrong. And if you're breaking the pad then you're not only doing it completely wrong, but you have severe anger issues far surpassing my angry ass and should seek help.

[WolfCrimson]

Actually, my thumbs get tired too after playing a lot on pad. I don't think I'm doing it wrong either. You have godlike thumbs, Orihalcon.

[Overheat]

You can play on both Xbox and PS3 without worrying about "changing" controllers.

There are a lot of work-arounds for pad. Not all sticks still are dual-modded.

3 reasons I can think of for getting stick:

Artwork

Easy to switch out buttons / joystick

You can play in arcades

The rest are all kinda arguable (playing on a wired pad, converters, pad mileage varies, etc.). Not to mention Wolfkrone plays on pad. It's just that the majority of the best players in the world play on stick.

After playing for long periods of time, my left thumb (would) start to hurt. After playing for a long period on stick, my left wrist would hurt.

I think the wrist issue was a bit more serious, but both ended up being temporary. Both were signs, to me, that I was playing too much those days.

Some advantages to pad:

Cheaper, lighter, smaller

Can easily buy locally, offline

[Skye]

Some advantages to pad:

Cheaper, lighter, smaller

Can easily buy locally, offline

BREAKS LIKE A TWIX COMMERCIAL.

[Orihalcon]

Actually, my thumbs get tired too after playing a lot on pad. I don't think I'm doing it wrong either. You have godlike thumbs, Orihalcon.

I don't know if they're godlike, but they are freakishly huge. I believe it's some sort of birth defect actually. Either way, this thread is honestly the first I've heard of anybody getting tired playing a pad; I've never once heard of it before be it locally or online.

BREAKS LIKE A TWIX COMMERCIAL.

If you've been exposed to heavy gamma radiation, maybe. Or you keep buying some shitty flimsy one instead of a sturdy pad. Or you're just fabulously retarded.

[Delrian]

Playing on PS2 D-pad hurt my thumbs enough that I decided to go stick because the analog isn't that great either.

[Skye]

If you've been exposed to heavy gamma radiation, maybe. Or you keep buying some shitty flimsy one instead of a sturdy pad. Or you're just fabulously retarded.

Trolly shit, genius.

Let me specify for your reading comprehension.

Controllers aren't made for fighting games. The never were, using a controller for a FG, although will provide some naive sense of comfort, are simply not built to endure the kind of maneuverability that FGs demand, forcing a controller to do so will wear it out, as it's been worked to operate in ways that it's not meant to, for longer than it's meant to. Never is any long, or even medium time FG player going to last with just 1 controller, for the statements expressed above, they will eventually die out, with various flaws in tow including, the control stick holding inputs, buttons sticking, buttons unresponding, etc etc, as a former pad player, I know this through experience. I played pad for CT from September '09 to June '10, in 9 months I went through 2 pads and was on my third, I never rage quit, nor have I ever threw my controller on anything hard enough to compromise it's integrity. The wear came simply from using it to do 6c loops and bug buffering.

On the other hand, when I bought my stick late June '10, and edited Seimitsu parts into it, even after banging onto it, throwing it various times and what not, it has never been in need of repair. For anyone who can't or refuses to do the math, that's almost 2 years ago when I bought this. It was a pretty penny, even though I caught one on sale for 90 bucks new. It's worth the investment, it's very customizable, easier to customize yourself, they last longer and sticks are made specifically for fighting games. They provide the kind of endurance and maneuverability that FGs demand, although they are bulky and uncomfortable at first, it's something you have to practice with. It will pay off, you are then one step closer to the delusion of making it to a pad banned EVO or SBO. You'll wonder how you managed with a controller. Throw down 120$ from birthday money, allowances, your job, Christmas wish, school FAFSA refund, change on the floor or whatever, and you have a stick that will not die on you, if it does, the parts are easy to replace and will cost less than buying a new controller. Seriously, if you have gone through 3 to 4 controllers on BB, all of that collective money could be saved up for a stick. Unless you're a Jin or Ragna player (rofl), a stick will greatly improve your performance with the right amount of practice.

[XYZ1234]

Look I appreciate your opinion but choosing what to use to play fighting games is entirely up to the player. A good stick that work on all platform ( PC/360/PS3) cost a lot more and personally as a student I can't afford it. I have been using my PSP for 3 years as a controller and I have absolutely no problem with it, even the fact that I can't enter any tourament on 360 doesn't bug me. And some people can't use stick very well, such as myself. I have try playing on stick several times but it never turn out ok even after a lot of practice. Technically, pad isn't banned at EVO, "wireless" pad is banned so as long as it not wireless, it's okay. In my opinion, what you use doesnt matter as long as you are comfortable playing on it, able to enjoy the game with it and I doubt people will look down on you if you are a good pad player.

P/S: I'm a Tao player and I think my performance is already top notch.

[Orihalcon]

*snip*

I heartily lol'd. You should go into stand-up. Because you are funny.

Funny thing is, I once played with a guy who used a stick while I used a pad. Stick broke first and yet I've had the same pad for about eight years now. Pads are much more durable than you think, so you seriously must be doing something incredibly wrong.

Really I'd feel more motivated to argue every point you brought up, but my attention to this is rapidly dwindling, and we'd stretch things on for about ten or so pages with nobody willing to budge and nobody really truly considering eachother's points and overall just wasting a shit-ton of time, so I'll just save us the time and say 'okay, you kids have fun with your sticks.' Though I do honestly suggest looking into some professional help if you really keep breaking pads. Because you are some sort of high level of fucked up if you keep breaking them like that.

Also, I could've swore this wasn't a 'sticks vs pads' thread...oh yes, it isn't. But I suppose thinking somebody could stay on topic, much less refrain from the chance to become King Swaggercock (or should I say King Swaggerstick in this case?) is beyond the average Dustloop user. Of course I'm just as bad for having gone along with this little song and dance, but oh well~

[Amadeus46Art]

Whoops this thread's gone stupid.

Decided I won't lock it just yet though, but cut it out with the angry posting. I'm not saying you can't have dissenting opinions, but you don't have to act call each other cocksuckers either. Further trolling and flames will be met with infractions.

Edited February 6, 2012 by Amadeous

[skd]

there are a lot of strong pad players in new york (zidane, omni, MWAH), etc!

I generally used the same pad since CT and I think skye is being a silly nigga goose (<3). Im pretty sure ive been playing fg's properly and i can say with what ive seen that pad can be just as good as stick. And my thumbs never become tired. My wrist does, however even after playing stick for 2-3 years.

ill take my infrac like a man

[Moy_X7]

Not you not_lunaris...

Use of the "n" word, smh. Bad I tell you, bad child.

@Jakie Chandler and Shin - well that's news to me, I didn't know we were allowed to map stuff to the L3/R3 buttons. You've saved my life, you don't know how long I've gone without taunting. There were times when I was dying for a chance to taunt. Looks like I'll be going back to my good old Ice Arrow > RC > taunt > Distortion Finish ways.

As for the thumbs hurting...

It only hurts the first few times <3

No, really, I've played on the pad to the point where my skin would get scraped off little by little. That which resulted in some super sturdy thumbs by now. I have KoF '99 to thank for that.

Regarding the broken pads... I think Skye is exaggerating a little here. It usually takes a few years for my pads to break but that's also by playing action games like DMC3/4 and Bayonetta. Those games give the pad as much of a punishment as any fighting game would (specially the latter). I play games a lot and I mean a LOT, so it's a given that the pads would eventually wear out after a few years.

[Hyen]

i have to say

this is not i said NOT a pad vs stick thread,i doesnt matter if you say stick is much better than pad or vice versa.i personally play pad because i play games not only blazblue,and why i break a pad every month?yeah i am noob and suck at blazblue but i have a lot confidence in skills at DMC.first time i think my finger speed is extraordinary and doesnt need a lot of times to learn FG

then i try BB and GG and i become a total noob at first time,so i start to search information about game related and here i am in dustloop

after that i came to conclusion that you can be a Pro in some game,but in another game is different story.the more difficult the game,the more fun you learn about that game

so if you say you must buy stick for FG/pad will be banned in FGC or whatever,seriously man i don't care.as far as i hype about this game

Edited February 11, 2012 by Hyen

[severin]

other disadvantages: unable to compete in BBR

edit: inb4 orihalcon says he could beat us all anyways

[Blade]

I have callouses on my thumb joints like I'm one of those Chinese Monks from the Himelayas, lol.

My thumbs aren't big big, but they're boney and flexible. I can catch a basketball with the back of my hands (you don't wanna see that).

As for inputs, I've done everything from Guile's Flashkick super to Geese Howard's Raging Storm and Iron Tager's 1080+D. I think the only time I have a hard time doing inputs is during negative edge moves, like Zero's Buster combos or stuff for Eddie, Arakune, and Carl...I can do a few things, but I drop a lot.

[Hyen]

@Amadeus,severin

damn i begin to got dizzy seeing your avatar for 5 seconds

[SolarMisae]

Applies to pretty much all fighting games. Edited February 13, 2012 by SolarMisae

[kirbster]

This man speaks the truth.



Now, if I may share my personal experience : I made the jump from pad to stick about a month and a half ago. I've always wanted to but never really had the motivation nor the money to do it. Since I've gotten one as a gift, I had no more excuse so I started practicing hardcore. After over a month of consistent practice I'm still worse than I was on pad, but I'm seeing clear progress and finally convinced myself that it's not impossible to reach (and eventually surpass) my pad level. It's an immensely tedious and frustrating endeavor if you're competitive like me, but I personally really like the feel of hitting the big buttons and always hated shoulder buttons/macros, so I'm keeping at it.

I honestly think that you can be as good on a pad or stick. Saying "stick was made for fighting games" isn't really a good argument since you can get used to pretty much anything with enough practice. It's not like your knowledge of the game or your decision making will be worse just because you don't play on stick. I also personally know several amazing pad players that can compete with the best of the best in Tekken, Marvel and BB.

So really... it's just a matter of preference. The only incontestable argument that I can think of in favor of stick is being able to play in arcades... which honestly is a must if you wanna play in Japan or Korea (since arcades in NA are dead). Other than that it's just opinion.

That said, I don't regret switching to stick at all. I have confidence that you can be as good as you want on either thing as long as you work hard enough. Practice makes perfect!