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Sure you didn't get CS2?

I mean ain't shit changed but the character in my case but I still feel limited.

It's hard to explain, but to me CS2 Makoto was way more "limited". I felt like in most offensive situations there was always one option that was the best and why would you do anything else? EX: every combo resulting in corner carry and orb oki, or her basic frame traps being ridiculously good and rewarding. She was very strong but also very straightforward and I really didn't like it. Extend Makoto's options are significantly less powerful, but I also feel that the ways she was changed were perfect for promoting creativity.

It's hard to point out any one thing that caused it, but that's my mindset when I play her and I'm having a blast so far.

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It honestly sounds like you were limiting yourself more or less when it came to CS2.

She has almost nothing that could be consider creative because most of it was just previous options from CS1/2 while having almost nothing gain with her "new" changes. Her neutral game is the same if not worst since less fucks are not given from overall standpoint, which mean she still have nothing against the previous bad matches up that stems from her foundation.

Damn, so I can only play you there? :(

Pretty much, after the PP event is done I'll be switching back.

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He just means she's not good enough where one option is always the best possible move and it's braindead. Now you have more comparable options to weigh in each situation. That's what it sounds like he means anyway.

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It honestly sounds like you were limiting yourself more or less when it came to CS2.

She has almost nothing that could be consider creative because most of it was just previous options from CS1/2 while having almost nothing gain with her "new" changes. Her neutral game is the same if not worst since less fucks are not given from overall standpoint, which mean she still have nothing against the previous bad matches up that stems from her foundation.

I made no comment on her neutral as it did, indeed, stay almost the same. I like rushdown mixup offensive stuff and I did not like her offense at all in CS2. I also didn't specifically say that they gave her "new" things. She DID get new things, but they were mostly eclipsed by her nerfs. She had many of the same options in CS2 but a few of those options were so good that there was no point in using them except sparingly. That's why I say her changes promote creativity.

You may have a point with that I was limiting myself, but if that's true then it only came about because I disliked her so much. I love playing her again and there's not much anyone can say that will change it.

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Koinonea, if you want some games in with my Lambda in I'd love to play you, this weekend. I think that's the best time for my dorm net is this weekend. I feel bad about those wins I got.

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Koinonea you were that persistent makoto I fought the other day - how did out games go again?

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GGs to anyone i played from DL tonight.

I was getting frustrated, started playing worse, kept getting frustrated.

Figure I'll just call it a night.

Platinum is fun as fuck though :D

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