[CSE] PSN Match Finder/GG Thread

[toanenadiz]

GGs to everyone I played and dealt with my Taokaka. Sorry for the poor performance.

And Noel's 6A is still the best move ever.

[susano]

Belated GGs to a few people I played in the past two days.

[Moy_X7]

GGs to Jyo and that random Carl player

Shoutouts to rage quits

Shoutouts to lulzy Plat damage

[Jyosua]

Those last games Moy, that was uneccesary. Astrals just waste time. I also lost a decent few matches by choking and confirming into the wrong thing. To top it off, I kept getting counterhit for trying to fucking barrier block! What the fuck is wrong with this game? I couldn't even tech the astral grabs even though I knew they were coming. Fucking shit netplay.

Also platinum is ridiculous. Can confirm nearly everything into 4k+ from midscreen and has ridiculous hitboxes. That matchup is literally impossible to win consistently, much less at all. I hit you and get 3-4k, you hit me and 6.8k? Fuck Extend.

Edited December 7, 2012 by Jyosua

[Moy_X7]

Rule of netplay: I will Astral people if the opportunity arises.

Tell me about it, I just completely gave up trying to tech throws on reaction whenever I pushed throw at the right time. So I just OS'd and ate a bunch of TRMs. As for the Barrier thing, it happens, sometimes I get random j.Bs.

Jeez Jyo, one would think that after months you'd stop doing those silly wake-up/mid-screen Ice Car Ds, up+backing, wake-up DP'ing, wake-up buttons and all those netplay shenanigans lol.

Now let's all calm down and eat a midnight snack XD

[Jyosua]

Oh, and get guard broken by blocking for eternity? :/ Fuck that noise. Of course I'm going to try to jump out at times. You make it sound like I do those things all the time, but I only started doing that after losing to plat shitting out Ragna style damage like 10 times. Additionally, any match I didn't wakeup DP, you didn't respect my wakeup at all. Shit, you still didn't most of the time when I did do it at least once! I actually wasn't using it that much at all, but then I get perfected, so fuck that.

I'm not going to block you if I think I can outsmart you and win with a button. Especially against Platinum. Especially on netplay. Blocking that shit is ridiculous. And then I get command thrown, guard broken, or thrown.

Like bubble oki for instance: if you stand there, I will throw you. If you do swallow moon, I will 5C. I haven't figured out what to do if you jump in the air.

I should note that I did a lot better against your Jin. But you can't expect me to block forever, never DP on wakeup, never jump out of pressure, and never try to low-profile you. I'd just lose.

Edited December 7, 2012 by Jyosua

[Moy_X7]

Oh, and get guard broken by blocking for eternity? :/

Wat, this isn't BB:CT lol

Fuck that noise. Of course I'm going to try to jump out at times. You make it sound like I do those things all the time, but I only started doing that after losing to plat shitting out Ragna style damage like 10 times.

It only took me like 20 matches to finally stop you from wake-up DP'ing lol. It looks silly watching you jump > land > jump > land until I just air throw you XD

Additionally, any match I didn't wakeup DP, you didn't respect my wakeup at all. Shit, you still didn't most of the time when I did do it at least once! I actually wasn't using it that much at all, but then I get perfected, so fuck that.

Respect your wake-up? What the hell does that even mean? lol

I'm not going to block you if I think I can outsmart you and win with a button. Especially against Platinum. Especially on netplay. Blocking that shit is ridiculous. And then I get command thrown, guard broken, or thrown.

I did score a bunch of 5A frame traps, soooooooo...

Like bubble oki for instance: if you stand there, I will throw you. If you do swallow moon, I will 5C. I haven't figured out what to do if you jump in the air.

5C doesn't work against Swallow Moon just to be clear. There was ALWAYS a 50-50 chance that you'd just DP and I like getting a nice 4-6K for my baiting efforts, like just standing there and watching you get yourself killed lol. I mean that did cost you a lot of games, just sayin'...

[Jyosua]

I'm sick of this. I just don't think I'm gonna play you any more as I'll never do well enough to beat you. It might be different in person, but online I just can't deal with Platinum.

Respecting my wakeup means not pressing a fucking button on my wakeup every time. Yes, you have oki. But if you know I can and will DP on wakeup sometimes, why is it impossible to punish you trying to bait it? How am I supposed to get out of the corner then? There's no fucking way. Any midscreen confirm lands me in the corner against Plat, and that's ridiculous.

God this is depressing. I thought I was actually improving, but every time I play you, I get told not to do the same things. I don't do them all the fucking time. But yes, in the span of 45 matches it might just seem like I do them a lot!

I'm also pissed off that I kept missing my 2A confirm. I don't even know why. I think it's because I was nervous that if I dropped it, I'd get hit with another third or more of my health.

[Moy_X7]

I'm sick of this. I just don't think I'm gonna play you any more as I'll never do well enough to beat you. It might be different in person, but online I just can't deal with Platinum.

I can always just play Jin if you want lol

Respecting my wakeup means not pressing a fucking button on my wakeup every time. Yes, you have oki. But if you know I can and will DP on wakeup sometimes, why is it impossible to punish you trying to bait it? How am I supposed to get out of the corner then? There's no fucking way. Any midscreen confirm lands me in the corner against Plat, and that's ridiculous.

I'm still confused here, so you're mad that I'm not pushing buttons on your wake-up or that I'm pushing buttons on your wake-up? What do you mean by "impossible trying to punish you trying to bait it?" You did throw me a couple of times lol. You're not supposed to get out of the corner, that's why Platinum is a momentum based character. Once she gets you in there and you manage to slip out, that's entirely my fault.

God this is depressing. I thought I was actually improving, but every time I play you, I get told not to do the same things. I don't do them all the fucking time. But yes, in the span of 45 matches it might just seem like I do them a lot!

I mean, come on, how obvious can you be with those wake-up DPs? There's a reason why Japan and most other good players don't just alternate between DP'ing and pushing buttons on wake-up. That shit gets you blown up as you could tell from those 45 matches. I'm not trying to poke fun at you, it's just stuff that you need to stop doing as it WILL cost you matches.

How about trying to IB > DP during a block-string? It sure as hell beats predictable ass wake-up DPs.

I'm also pissed off that I kept missing my 2A confirm. I don't even know why. I think it's because I was nervous that if I dropped it, I'd get hit with another third or more of my health.

lol why would you be nervous? This is netplay, there's nothing at stake, we're just having fun (well I am at least) lol.

[Yggjrasil]

Respect your wake-up? What the hell does that even mean? lol

A 1,000,000x this. WTF is this supposed to mean?

[Starlight777]

Jyo you sound like you hit the "Rage Horizon" like how I do when I play against Ragnas. You should do what I should be doing. Save recordings of matches against your worst matchups and watch them over and over again until you see what your doing wrong in your own eyes.

[Yggjrasil]

If I walk up to you on your wake-up, and press 2C with Ragna and I hear Fatal, You are fucking up. That is all.

[toanenadiz]

When are you usually online Moy? I haven't played you in awhile.

[Moy_X7]

When are you usually online Moy? I haven't played you in awhile.

Usually at midnight and sometimes in the morning. I'm beat right (lol what am I still doing up at 4 AM) now so we're probably going to have to play tomorrow night if you want.

[Circuitous]

Additionally, any match I didn't wakeup DP, you didn't respect my wakeup at all.

Oki deserves respect, not wakeup. Unless you can read what he's doing and counter it, you should be blocking, and thanking Mori that you have that opportunity.

[susano]

Online does get frustrating sometimes. I would know.

But there's no shame in understanding how to fix mistakes and such.

[Jyosua]

Ignore most of what I said. I can't communicate thoughts coherently when I'm that salty.

I was angry because as Moy said, Platinum is momentum based. This means pretty much any mistake I make or correct mash by him lands me in the corner. To top it off, while he tells me not to wakeup DP, he did the same quite a few times, but I have trouble punishing Plat's DP online.

The thing I said about respect: I was talking about baiting DPs. I want people to bait them so I can get out of pressure. I originally tried to counter assault after blocking bubble oki on wakeup, but more than half the time I ended up missing the timing because of 5A and lol online.

Regarding those counter hits during your pressure Moy: am I supposed to be able to mash and beat her butt bump overhead? Sometimes it worked, but sometimes I got counter hit instead. That's part of why you got so many counter hits. That and when you dashed towards me during pressure, I thought I could mash there. I need help with that matchup... it's unbearable. Moy, will you be online tonight?

[Star-Demon]

It looks like I've infected Jyosua.

"Rage Horizon" lol

[Boodendorf]

I'm getting the game tomorrow, cause I think I'm going to go crazy if I continue to only play CS2 lol. Any european (or even non eu players if they want) wanna play against a newbie saturday? I have no idea who I'll main, but I've been using Ragna and Makoto in CS2 so I might play them. Will also try out Relius.

[Errol]

Plat bat is some annoying stuff. But as I recall you D DP if you have 25 heat like 80%+ of the time.

Well I lose a lot against Moy too. Plat is def annoying.

[xntrikcat]

Ugh. Jyoshua, people don't have to bait wakeup DP. You have to make them bait it by DP'ing. Then you just have to yomi whether he'll meaty you or bait you. Then you decide whether you still DP, upback, backdash, or block, whatever.

As for mashing out of pressure, I found out that I gotta mash earlier to punish certain gaps. If you see someone do, say, 2a 662a, by the time you see him dash it's too late. You have to start mashing when you block the first 2a, and maybe you can catch him while he's dashing.

Or, you just pick Mu-12 and just win despite doing nothing right at all.

[Moy_X7]

I was angry because as Moy said, Platinum is momentum based. This means pretty much any mistake I make or correct mash by him lands me in the corner. To top it off, while he tells me not to wakeup DP, he did the same quite a few times, but I have trouble punishing Plat's DP online.

I do that like once in a blue moon and when I do, it usually worked because I use those wake-up DPs very sparingly. Seriously, watch that 1 hour replay session that you recorded in June and compare the amount of wake-up DPs you did as opposed to mine. We were playing exactly the same as we did in June, it's just that now I'm doing slightly better combos lol.

The thing I said about respect: I was talking about baiting DPs. I want people to bait them so I can get out of pressure. I originally tried to counter assault after blocking bubble oki on wakeup, but more than half the time I ended up missing the timing because of 5A and lol online.

You're not getting out of the corner even if I try to bait your DP since that Bubble seals your escape route. That's unless I get thrown lol.

Regarding those counter hits during your pressure Moy: am I supposed to be able to mash and beat her butt bump overhead? Sometimes it worked, but sometimes I got counter hit instead. That's part of why you got so many counter hits. That and when you dashed towards me during pressure, I thought I could mash there. I need help with that matchup... it's unbearable. Moy, will you be online tonight?

Mmm, I'm not entirely sure about that, I don't know how tight the 5A > 6B gatling is. You could mash when I try to reset pressure with 66 5A but I could always just frame trap you by doing an additional 5A lol.

[A.X.I.S.]

5A>6B is a really free jump out/Mash.

I used 6A>6B so it's harder to mash on and it lands the last active frames.

But that was back when I played Plat which is a long time ago.

[Akira-Shiro]

anyone trying to play??

[TD]

everyone can get salty every once in a while, and playing against pretty much any momentum char in this game can be a chore.

someone once told me that is one thing doesn't work, try something, anything else. besides not defining insanity. doing something else forces you to think about your options and may spark a little creativity. if you get the foe to see that you have these options, are willing to use them, mixed with a little knowledge (will his oki beat my rolls 100% of the time?) and randomness (break the pattern), you give the foe a lot to think about.

BLOCKING in this game btw, is very, very good. it may not be in other games, but most certainly is in bb, so don't pout. but if you really sat there and blocked 20+ seconds of platinum or litch or rachel... well you need to fucking jump for joy cause you da bess.