mAc Chaos Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 i forgot all about 2B. my main issue is mid screen, but i need to take this to the mu thread or bad things will happen. thanks guys. Yeah midscreen you still have to deal with it. Or rather in my case, my combos tend to hit him far away, and then by the time IAD over he has enough time to get up and do DP so I have to be cautious and give up the advantage or just risk it anyway. At least, midscreen. Although I guess you could say that about any character with a DP. Feels more pronounced with Hazama though.
psycofang2 Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 lamda is easy as balls for me to pressure on wake up, she has like absolutely nothing to use besides a 50 heat reversal. 6D. its hazama and mu. at neutral is my real issue. trying to get them to stop doing something absurd like pressing buttons while im hitting them, or pressuring them, or mashing out of a blockstring. crazy stuff like hitting buttons. :D
mAc Chaos Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 Hazama and Mu are just button pushing characters. They can get huge damage off practically any hit, especially Hazama, so there's no reason not for them to try and hit you whenever they can.
psycofang2 Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 i know and tats what im trying to figure out how to stop that madness. no ones allowed to hit buttons except hakumen. i just need to work on my neutral and passively shut them down. Mu its mash C DxN hazama its slinky all over the screen mashing grab and dp. i will fix this. :I
Fluck Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 Lambda can backdash out of a lot of shit midscreen, that's why she's harder to pressure than Hazama.
Ctrlaltwtf Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 I'd like to see a character that can win without pushing Buttons. And Hazama has no mash except SIR and even SIR trades on everything. His Rising Fang is not a legitimate DP because it is not 1F invulnerable.
mAc Chaos Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 i know and tats what im trying to figure out how to stop that madness. no ones allowed to hit buttons except hakumen. i just need to work on my neutral and passively shut them down. Mu its mash C DxN hazama its slinky all over the screen mashing grab and dp. i will fix this. :I I can deal with him for the most part but his command grab messes me up more than anything else. Use 5A or 5D to deal with the crossup shenanigans. Be ready for air grabs too. Hotaru the DPs or counter them. Cut the chains or dodge them so he can't replenish them over and over, unless you want to just block and stick out nothing to get hit, that can work sometimes too. Normal A / B pressure should work otherwise.
Ctrlaltwtf Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 I can deal with him for the most part but his command grab messes me up more than anything else. Use 5A or 5D to deal with the crossup shenanigans. Be ready for air grabs too. Hotaru the DPs or counter them. Cut the chains or dodge them so he can't replenish them over and over, unless you want to just block and stick out nothing to get hit, that can work sometimes too. Normal A / B pressure should work otherwise. Is that advice for fighting Hazama, or for fighting me? :8/:
Errol Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 lamda is easy as balls for me to pressure on wake up man. have you played toan?
Chickzama Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 GGs to Haven, Lord Knight, DontExplain, Weika, Jyosua, Jinny, Akira Shiro and everyone else who joined my room/who I fought!
Errol Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 I'd like to see a character that can win without pushing Buttons.. Luigi?
mAc Chaos Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 Is that advice for fighting Hazama, or for fighting me? :8/: How did you know.
psycofang2 Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 Lambda can backdash out of a lot of shit midscreen, that's why she's harder to pressure than Hazama. never had that problem i usually just run after them as jin or 2D and haku has 2B, renka, 4C. I'd like to see a character that can win without pushing Buttons. And Hazama has no mash except SIR and even SIR trades on everything. His Rising Fang is not a legitimate DP because it is not 1F invulnerable. its not a dp i just call it one, because invulnerability. I can deal with him for the most part but his command grab messes me up more than anything else. Use 5A or 5D to deal with the crossup shenanigans. Be ready for air grabs too. Hotaru the DPs or counter them. Cut the chains or dodge them so he can't replenish them over and over, unless you want to just block and stick out nothing to get hit, that can work sometimes too. Normal A / B pressure should work otherwise. i will. OK END OF DERAILMENT THANKS.
psycofang2 Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 man. have you played toan? i havent fought him recently, i do fight alot of backdash loving, crecent blade canceling, mixup faggots. yaya, xsafety etc.
Nemesis Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 its not a dp i just call it one, because its used constantly like one. fix'd
mAc Chaos Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 > derailment It's related to the games you played, right. Faster responses too. And yeah I don't have that much of a problem pressuring Lambda either. Although it depends on the player. Or maybe I just got good enough to deal with it over time. The hard part is actually getting next to her.
psycofang2 Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 fix'd I agree > derailment It's related to the games you played, right. Faster responses too. And yeah I don't have that much of a problem pressuring Lambda either. Although it depends on the player. Or maybe I just got good enough to deal with it over time. The hard part is actually getting next to her. it really depends on the lambda, ones who arent too careful with axe wheel and chaser are somewhat easier targets than the lambdas that are just very slow and careful with pressing D. i found it alot harder to get in on patient ones than ones that try to pressure.
Errol Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 lambda backdash is too godly for me.also lambda crouch low profiles tsubaki 5b, as does 2b, and 3c. even in the corner it's harder than other characters without real DPs.
psycofang2 Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 theres only 1 real DP in this game, its called hotaru.
Star-Demon Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 Cookie only fights me because I'm the only person she can beat free at this point and not have to leave the room.
mAc Chaos Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 You are her one and only. You should be proud.
Errol Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 speaking of cookie, when are we going to play BB.
toanenadiz Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 lambda backdash is too godly for me.also lambda crouch low profiles tsubaki 5b, as does 2b, and 3c. even in the corner it's harder than other characters without real DPs. Must suck to be a Tsubaki main in Extend
Errol Posted December 28, 2012 Posted December 28, 2012 Must suck to be a Tsubaki main in Extend none of that is any diff in CP, or CS2
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