[CP] Bang Gameplay Discussion

[kaeru]

I'm thinking maybe more like a jump cancel, cancel into overdrive. Like the 6D -> gold burst that we witnessed in CS2

i feel so lost without my strider color

Edited November 28, 2012 by kaeru

[GreekAngel]

Good thing we got goku then.

[Akira-Shiro]

Does bang still have his swallow moon

[GreekAngel]

Yes he does. It might be a combo extender or just plain random floating lols

[GreekAngel]

623B fatal property has been removed, apparently... It kinda doesn't matter.

[Dreiko]

Yes he does. It might be a combo extender or just plain random floating lols

It's both and also good for double crossups, it seems to stop momentum and will make for some ambiguous stuff.

[zdravkelja]

And for high/low mixup. I saw j.4B > float > j.4B in one match. Good stuff

623B fatal property has been removed, apparently... It kinda doesn't matter.

Did he gain any? 5C is the only one left, and it was useless till now...

[GreekAngel]

Sounds so dirty, bro. Can we do his J22A after D nails?

[Dreiko]

You prolly can but not instantly after.

And for high/low mixup. I saw j.4B > float > j.4B in one match. Good stuff

Did he gain any? 5C is the only one left, and it was useless till now...

3C is fatal too as well as J623B. It's pretty easy to counter stuff with too. 623B prorated so bad that even as a fatal it didn't lead to much damage, landing a 5B usually was preferable as a combo starter.

[GreekAngel]

A 623B fatal usually only lead to around 3k damage. At least it still wallbounces on counter hit.

[Solemen]

In EX, 623B was good in combos but never as a starter.

However, j623B was VERY good as a starter and when you land a fatal, you can do an easy 5k combo (6k if done correctly in corner).

Seriously, easy mid screen in EX is j623B Fatal, land > dash > 5B > 5C > 6D(or 2C) > daifunka = 5k =D.

*EDIT: My damages were wrong, so I just changed them, sorry...*

Edited November 28, 2012 by Solemen

[Dreiko]

In EX, 623B was good in combos but never as a starter.

However, j623B was VERY good as a starter and when you land a fatal, you can do an easy 5k combo (6k if done correctly in corner).

Seriously, easy mid screen in EX is j623B Fatal, land > dash > 5B > 5C > 6D(or 2C) > daifunka = 5k =D.

*EDIT: My damages were wrong, so I just changed them, sorry...*

And if you fear bursting, just do j623B fatal into daifunka, does something like 4.6k from what I recall.

[zdravkelja]

Oh, I thought they removed FC from both aerial and ground version. We are good than. I forgot about 3C, lol

[GreekAngel]

Well, it is still a good thing that Bang can get his damage off of J623B in this game, at least I hope.

[Dreiko]

Oh, I thought they removed FC from both aerial and ground version. We are good than. I forgot about 3C, lol

3C is so underused for some reason, I don't get it, it's a freaking awesome move. I think it's all those post-CT Bangs who didn't have to struggle and make every little good thing about Bang's normals pull as much weight as possible that never bothered to find uses for 3C.

3C is guarandeed fatal on blocked Tsubame Gaeshi, punishes half of Tager's ground moves, slides under lobelias and even tempest dahlia, it even breaks primers, it has just so much stuff it can do! XD

[heavymetalmixer]

3C is so underused for some reason, I don't get it, it's a freaking awesome move. I think it's all those post-CT Bangs who didn't have to struggle and make every little good thing about Bang's normals pull as much weight as possible that never bothered to find uses for 3C.

3C is guarandeed fatal on blocked Tsubame Gaeshi, punishes half of Tager's ground moves, slides under lobelias and even tempest dahlia, it even breaks primers, it has just so much stuff it can do! XD

That's why is so negative on block.

[Dreiko]

That's why is so negative on block.

Right, that's why you don't throw it out if you're not punishing something without meter for the RC.

[GreekAngel]

Or throw it out at just the right time that the tip of 3C will hit making it not that minus on block.

[Dreiko]

Ok so 6A>6B seems to be a natural frame trap:

http://youtu.be/GoT-iMP-7VU?t=22m2s

If it trades with Haku's 2A when done like this, it really will be scary lol.

[GreekAngel]

Well, it really is a frame trap.

SCORE 1 FOR DREIKOO

[zeth07]

Bang:

http://youtu.be/aFkFgCpqB1Y = Sessha (Bang) vs. Izayoi Matoi (Taokaka)

http://youtu.be/aFkFgCpqB1Y?t=8m41s = Sessha (Bang) vs. Tager

http://youtu.be/7tIKTVY0FMc?t=30m = Kotsubu (Bang) vs nao (Bullet)

http://youtu.be/GoT-iMP-7VU?t=12m56s = Hasshi (Platinum) vs Kotsubu (Bang)

http://youtu.be/GoT-iMP-7VU?t=18m = Kuma (Makoto) vs Kotsubu (Bang)

http://youtu.be/GoT-iMP-7VU?t=20m52s = Chibaken (Hakumen) vs Kotsubu (Bang)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYtqc0O-FRY = Arcade Story Translated

http://youtu.be/Mu_PZLsoQd8 = Bang vs. Noel

Edited November 30, 2012 by zeth07

[GreekAngel]

Does Bang have a bad match up against CP haku or something, because every Bang vs Haku I've seen, Haku always wins

[iw2ma]

Does Bang have a bad match up against CP haku or something, because every Bang vs Haku I've seen, Haku always wins

I've almost always thought the match wasn't very good in Bangs favor

[Dreiko]

http://youtu.be/a6f8fm3bBXo?t=7m

FRKZ 623B has become it's pre-CS2 self!

[GreekAngel]

http://youtu.be/a6f8fm3bBXo?t=7m

FRKZ 623B has become it's pre-CS2 self!

Can I hug you?