Guilty Gear Stories (spoilers abound!)

[Dizzy Kiske]

Ky × Dizzy = Sin Ky + Sin = utter hatred Sin + Dizzy = "i luv u mommy!!" Sol + Ky = head-smashing action Ky × Jam = ...she won't get prego Testament × Dizzy = super emo baby Sol × Dizzy = ...just wrong O.O this is why KyxDizzy works

[Lou_Cypher]

Okay, enough Dizzy topics. They're making me dizzy. Question: That guy in one of Millia's endings in GGX plus.....same guy as "Millia's fan" from Accent Core plus?

[Chainsaw Guitar]

also testament is destined forever to be emo, so no luv for him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysv4XzGbzmw

You gotta admit though, Testament WAS pretty cool in GG1.

[Wendy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysv4XzGbzmw

You gotta admit though, Testament WAS pretty cool in GG1.

so fun the video XD

3:37 = HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

about the love in gg, I like more dizzy x testament than dizzy x ky.

[Blade]

That guy in one of Millia's endings in GGX plus.....same guy as "Millia's fan" from Accent Core plus?

That guy's been following her since GG. She tends to run away from him alot due to "things going on" but I guess when things calm down she wants to talk to him more from what is mentioned.

In AC+ it's kinda sad because when she goes berserk due to Angra, he ends up being forced to kill her. (She lets him stab her to end the misery of being a killer.)

...Of course, we don't know if this is the TRUE ending or not. The other ending has PWAB chasing after her for her Kinjuu (shortly after she witnessed Eddie's death).

[kryman123]

SolRocks, I don't see what's wrong with Dizzy and Ky. They make a perfect couple, see it for your self dude !

[RockYou424]

Wow, that's a very nice picture ! Yeah, they do indeed make a great couple ! :KY: for sure !!

[Blade]

.................Enough with the Ky x Dizzy spew guys...we don't know we don't know WE DON'T KNOW. (Dizzy-Kiske and Zazz...I mean YOU as well!) We won't know till the next game comes so talking about it is pure speculation and conjecture at this point. Meanwhile I'm working on the second half of ABA's story and the 3rd part of Night of Knives...don't post anything retarded till then, please...

[JuntaDizzylover]

There is no fact stating KY and DIZZY are a couple, the fact that there is, is that KY has married the MAIDEN OF THE GROVE. In Story, there are two maidens of the grove, one Being DIZZY the other being a crippled female in a wheelchair with strange powers under KY's care. And in the ending of GGX sol-badguy spares DIZZY's life for odd emotional reasons, and KY hate sol for letting a gear(DIZZY) live ( not 100% sure on KY hating sol on that too ). In X2 story, In of sols story and DIZZY, he saves DIZZY from necro's control, and then DIZZY is filled with a warm feeling of love but don't know from who's it from, WHY? Sol is hiding ( AWWWW WHAT A WUSSY YOU ARE SOL) But she feel warm and compeled to that feeling. Then in overture, KY is using his sword to keep the maiden of the grove alive, His wife because of her conditions, mores reasons why its not DIZZY. Then with sin at his age, its even more impossible to be DIZZY because, if does have rapid grow like DIZZY, sin would be way older in.....

[JuntaDizzylover]

CONTINUE... Sin would be much older in overture, because more then 3 years passed. By judge from sins age, and the guilty gear events and timeline, sin was bore around the time KY was taking care of the crippled MAIDEN in the wheelchair. Now why, sol never made his move or showed himself to dizzy is cause he's keeping his promise to justice from the ending in guilty gear. Their is several hints in game pointing to towards sol and dizzy feeling for each other, like there opening in a match and the short anime clip in guilty gear x plus, where ky says "your let her live" and sol replies " Your such a boy scout" then KY replies to sol with "your passion is not the same a weakness sol". Im still going setting up AC plus time/even5 line to overture, so im not 100% correct...lol.. BTW, i keep i think i mispelled overture, its overtune, i think lol cant remember at the moment

[JuntaDizzylover]

ALSO i forgot to mention, sin hates his father for reasons i dont know yet but sin loves his mother. Im assuming, KY the goody guy pulled a BILL CLINTON or took advantage of the crippled maiden lol. I cant find the pic at the moment, but there isa pic of KY celebrating the female maiden in the wheelchair birthday from a scan. I'll post it when i find it.

[Blade]

........................ If you don't know for sure don't post...also that whole thing with Ky and Sol "boy scout" nonsense is barely even Meta-canonical.

[JuntaDizzylover]

........................

If you don't know for sure don't post...also that whole thing with Ky and Sol "boy scout" nonsense is barely even Meta-canonical.

can you not read, at two points a stated what im not sure about, the rest is all fact. Now, about the anime clip, it was made in x plus as a bonuse material to show the events of X that lead to X2, its a cannons into X2. Its common sense...Along with the gallery pictures too. And now go take your attitude else where, we dont need it here in dustloop

[Zazz]

lol ok here's some real questions: 1. What's the personalities like for Dr. Paradigm's fairy helpers? Same question for Aria from that artbook story. 2. Sol mentions that mainstream backyard-based magic is different from alchemy, which gets its powers from existing numbers. So does that mean that Aba, who was created from alchemy as a homunculus, operates or even exists differently from other magical creatures like Gears? 3. Since they say that the Backyard can warp the reality of present world, it stands to reason That Man could just prevent the merciless apocalypse with his mastery of that realm . . . unless that disaster is CAUSED by the misuse/overuse of the backyard. That makes more sense, doesn't it? 4. There any backstory for the various servants like the Gears or the Illyrian Knights?

[JuntaDizzylover]

A1) Aria is picking up where justice left off, even tho there the same lol A2) ABA functions are different from any other thing, in the world of guilty gear, jam uses ki, ky uses a battery power sword, may has uper human muscles lol, Sol and TEASTAMENT are gears, Dizzy a half gear, faust and raven control dimensions and so on, guilty gear full of STUFF lol A3) In the guilty gear timeline and events, In the holy way ky dies and Dizzy kills johnny and takes control of the gears, That man was about to die by gears and said "I never wanted it to be this way". I-no travels back in time to alter everything. I-no saves Ky and erases his memory, which alters everything Into the story now, oh after I-no saves Ky, she meets up with "that man" and decides to join him and watch him. 4)Not from what i know of, all i know of about of any back story was of kliff, who was saved by sol-badguy when kliff was a kid, then adopted testament a few years later. Hope this helps Zazz. see guiltygear.ru they got a event/time line

[Lou_Cypher]

Junta.....you're creepily obsessed with proving Dizzy isn't Ky's wife....is it possibly because you're ship was sunk? Also, everything you said is so not true....except some of you're last post, but that's common knowledge anyway. Besides, That Maiden in the Wheel Chair isn't really a Gear, she's the "sister" of a Gear is she not?

[Raging Tofu]

Junta, few things bub.

Firstly, STFU. Seriously, get your facts right before you start hammering away on your keyboard. Also, if you present you theories coherently, then they are more likely to be considered. Instead, you've just set yourself up as batshit creepy. Good job there.

Secondly, learn to fucking edit your posts. There was no need to have your run-on ideas carry out to more than one post. Again, if your post is collected and coherent, it will be better received. Now, after cutting out the drivel, let's talk about what you said:

There is no fact stating KY and DIZZY are a couple, the fact that there is, is that KY has married the MAIDEN OF THE GROVE.

You are both correct and incorrect here. True, there isn't any fact stating that Sin's mother is indeed Dizzy. Most of what's been shown would naturally lead people to believe that it is Dizzy, and there's no harm in speculation. However, Ishiwatari-san specifically said, in an interview from the most recent artbook, that Ky calls Sin's mother his "wife" but they are in no way officially married. (non-zipped version, posted recently in this thread in fact) Let's jump right to that-

14th question-

Q14: Ky’s wife Lady of the Bower. Does she as an ordinary queen show herself before the public?

A14: She does not show herself. Though Ky says wife, those are only words of his decision, not that they are officially/publicly married. That is why, from the public view and knowledge he is unmarried. The existence of the Lady of the Bower is information known only to a small group of the knighthood.

At the very least, from this, we know that Ky is a man of conscience. (In other words, he felt guilty about having a child out of wedlock, so by calling the woman his "wife" he's able to put his mind at ease.)

In Story, there are two maidens of the grove, one Being DIZZY the other being a crippled female in a wheelchair with strange powers under KY's care.

I'd like to know where you got the notion that there is more than one Maiden of the Grove. Granted, this could entirely be possible, since there is not, as of yet, any translation for Lighting the Argent, Blade did provide us with a good synopsis. And there's the thought that the term "Maiden of the Grove" is really more of a categorizing phrase than referring to a single person. The "cripple in a wheelchair" by the way, her name is Marina, something you should have known, had you been following this thread (but judging by some of what you say, you apparently have not). As for the "strange powers", Marina never displayed any "powers". The closest you could come to this would be when the Gear cells in the medicine she had been given reacted with Solaria's singing (which could be considered a "power" since it only affected Gears).

And in the ending of GGX sol-badguy spares DIZZY's life for odd emotional reasons, and KY hate sol for letting a gear(DIZZY) live ( not 100% sure on KY hating sol on that too ).

For the record, you mean X+, don't you? X did not have a story mode.

Emotional reasons? Really? Sol didn't even know Dizzy was a Gear until he confronted her then. Sol hates Gears and has made it his life's goal to eradicate them, so tell me, how does an "emotional reason" deter him from destroying something that's clearly on his kill list? If anything, Sol chose to spare her because he recognized how powerful she was and didn't want to deal with it. He's also not exactly warm toward her once she is defeated (she starts to cry, he says it's annoying and then brushes her off).

And Ky hating Sol for letting Dizzy live? You sure it wasn't the other way around? I mean, have you even bothered to read the GGX+ Plot FAQ?

In X2 story, In of sols story and DIZZY, he saves DIZZY from necro's control, and then DIZZY is filled with a warm feeling of love but don't know from who's it from, WHY? Sol is hiding ( AWWWW WHAT A WUSSY YOU ARE SOL) But she feel warm and compeled to that feeling.

Dizzy never says it's a feeling of love, just that she used all her powers and felt warm. The Jellyfish Pirates show up to collect her, so Sol quietly fades out. If I had to make any kind of a guess here, it would be that Dizzy was out of sorts from having been shoved off an airship and with Necro on rampage, fighting Sol returned her to a normal, "at ease" state. You could probably even draw on the happiness she felt when May, Johnny and April showed up.

Then in overture, KY is using his sword to keep the maiden of the grove alive, His wife because of her conditions, mores reasons why its not DIZZY. Then with sin at his age, its even more impossible to be DIZZY because, if does have rapid grow like DIZZY, sin would be way older in.....

You offer no reasons on how "her conditions" cannot possibly be linked to Dizzy. The "wife" is disappearing because she is a Gear. Dizzy is a Gear, so why wouldn't she disappear as well. As far as Sin's age and rapid growth go, Gear physiology is largely unknown. There have already been some theories regarding how Gear pregnancies might work, but it's still all up in the air.

Sin would be much older in overture, because more then 3 years passed. By judge from sins age, and the guilty gear events and timeline, sin was bore around the time KY was taking care of the crippled MAIDEN in the wheelchair.

Uh, no. Not in the least bit possible considering that LtA happened in 2182 and Sin is most likely to be 2 (based on his intelligence when factored by 'known' Gear/human growth rate, i.e. 1 human year = 7 Gear years) which means he would have been born in 2184. You're insinuating that Sin was born around 2181...don't you think if that were the case then there would have already been mention of Sin in XX or any of the games after it?

Now why, sol never made his move or showed himself to dizzy is cause he's keeping his promise to justice from the ending in guilty gear. Their is several hints in game pointing to towards sol and dizzy feeling for each other, like there opening in a match and the short anime clip in guilty gear x plus, where ky says "your let her live" and sol replies " Your such a boy scout" then KY replies to sol with "your passion is not the same a weakness sol".

Im still going setting up AC plus time/even5 line to overture, so im not 100% correct...lol..

BTW, i keep i think i mispelled overture, its overtune, i think lol cant remember at the moment

Sol has shown himself to Dizzy, but he's just not friendly towards her and keeps his distance much like how he keeps his distance from everyone else. Sol's promise to Justice was to defeat That Man, so how does that fit with keeping away from Dizzy? Your logic there is faulty. Also, there really isn't anything that points to a Sol/Dizzy pairing, and what was said in the X trailer does not support it either.

ALSO i forgot to mention, sin hates his father for reasons i dont know yet but sin loves his mother.

Sin's mad at Ky for a number of reasons. Ky handed him off to another person for raising, he doesn't really talk to his son much, and when they do communicate, Ky is rather cold towards Sin. In the first mission of Overture, Sin comments that Ky "doesn't care about the people at all", by which he means Ky's more focused on keeping his family safe (i.e. sealing up the wife and handing Sin off to Sol) rather than concerning himself with the safety of the Illyrians. (As King-elect, he certainly does try, but it's clear that it's not his main worry.)

Sin loves his mother, because unlike his father, she doesn't emotionally neglect him. (So he's a bit of a momma's boy, lol)

Im assuming, KY the goody guy pulled a BILL CLINTON or took advantage of the crippled maiden lol. I cant find the pic at the moment, but there isa pic of KY celebrating the female maiden in the wheelchair birthday from a scan. I'll post it when i find it.

You mean these scans I did and posted? Because those are the only official pictures of Ky and Marina.

EDIT: Thought it was in there, but you mean this picture, don't you?

can you not read, at two points a stated what im not sure about, the rest is all fact. Now, about the anime clip, it was made in x plus as a bonuse material to show the events of X that lead to X2, its a cannons into X2. Its common sense...Along with the gallery pictures too. And now go take your attitude else where, we dont need it here in dustloop

Are you aware that there are multiple paths in each game and that those mean the actual story could go off in any direction? There are still many plot holes between the events of all the games that need filling and sometimes the artwork reflects that. That does not mean that ALL artwork is cannon. Any artwork in an actual artbook or mook? Sure. Game ending? No.

And it's a trailer, an advertisement. To get people interested in the games. Nothing in it gives cannon to what happens between X and XX. Case in point, if it was really providing a connection between X and XX, then why list Zato-1, as he died after the first game?

blather about story plot points that have been known for years.

Really....do I need to add any more.

Here's some advice for you: Don't wrestle with pigs in the mud because 1) you'll get dirty and 2) the pigs will like it.

[Zazz]

in case anyone cares, i updated my super hypothesis timeline with dates and everything!

[Dizzy Kiske]

Zazz!! add moooore to the timeline!!!! i wanna read EVERYTHING up to GGXXaccentCOREplus & GG2overture!!! we need moar Ky x Dizzy in that timeline!! i love that timeline so much i'm going to make a fanfic out of it!!!

[Lou_Cypher]

Don't you have to finish your other fanfics first? And you still haven't reviewed my other one...wah...

[Blade]

I'm posting this here because the conversations are significant and are worth re-reading over so you guys understand more about the terms used. Think of it as a footnote.

Paradigm: I’ll be brief. If you’re the scientist from 100 years ago, you can guess the origin of magic, can’t you, Frederick?

Sol: Magic…A scientific impossibility, a power close to omnipotence. All of it is information of an unknown origin. However, there was no room to question that kind of innovative resource. At that time, scholars who were in a precarious position between technological progress and environmental ethics jumped on it like moths to a flame. Like me…and That Man too. And as we studied this energy that shouldn’t exist in this world, a theory arose…That is the Backyard, a superior dimension. Roughly put, it’s a world that can rewrite the rules of this universe in any way it wants.

Paradigm: Good. Now the main question: What if we developed a program where magic could gain access and enter the Backyard?

Sol: Impossible. By the time magic reached scientists’ hands, only the surface level was accessible…it’s inner framework was not.

Paradigm: That’s where the past you don’t know comes in. The Gear cells.

Sol: !?

Paradigm: You are aware that the cells constituting us Gears are created from applied technology of magic, right? However, the Gear cells that That Man completed contained unknown technologies that you yourself said were impossible.

Sol: But if we assume that’s true….it’s possible that humanity can enter the Backyard. Then Valentine…she’s destroying any footholds…

Paradigm: Yes…in other words, the disassembly of Gears is a sublimation.

Sol: But what will that accomplish? If she can freely access the Backyard, then she can also mess with the world’s fate. She’d be able to do whatever she wants.

Paradigm: Just because you can get into the Backyard doesn’t mean that you can do things right away. In that case, Valentine is probably sublimating Gears to prevent others from trespassing so that she can do ‘something’.

Sol: How did you come to that conclusion?

Paradigm: I was only successful once, but I was able to get a glimpse of the Backyard. There I confirmed that an artificial, isolated space was created.

Sol: What…?

Paradigm: That quarantined space was arranged in a way that isolates the area that constitutes the present world from the outside. I named that space the “Cube”.

Sol: A man-made space within the Backyard? That’s hard to believe.

Paradigm: It’s creator is probably That Man. The Gear Maker.

Sol: ……!

Paradigm: I don’t blame you for being surprised. A drop of water becomes a drop of water only when it obtains a location where it can actually trickle…And when that drop of water is thrown into the sea, there is nothing left to identify that drop, nor is there a method to restore it to its former shape. Mankind can be seen as a drop of water in the Backyard. If a human did create the Cube, then he is the only one who could make the impossible possible.

Sol: No doubt.

Paradigm: The problem is, what is That Man trying to do with the Cube? If he can hack into the Backyard’s chord, he can change the present world in any way he wants. It will be easy for him to cause an unprecedented disaster.

Sol: So that “something” is That Man’s plot…And he’s using Valentine for that cause.

Paradigm: I’m afraid so. That’s why in order to figure everything out; I was interested in the one who had ties to That Man. But I never imagined that Izuna would bring you before me in this manner.

Sol: I see. I thought it was strange for him to be Ky’s messenger.

UNDERWOOD HILL

Sol: I’ve never seen all these key signatures.

Paradigm: This is the foundation of when mankind first achieved the magic. It is a record of humanity’s first contact with the Backyard. Unfortunately it’s only a small fragment of it.

Sol: Where did you get this thing?

Paradigm: I obtained it when I was analyzing the Cube. These scores of information are simple notes that I put together. But they’re dangerous goods that rival the forbidden magic. I separated them from the present world for that reason.

Sol: The steps more than doubled, and the chords are too complicated.

Paradigm: With this…I can determine the phase of the brainwash. (He’s referring to when Izuna’s family was brainwashed by Valentine, he claimed only Justice had that kind of power.)

[shinquickman]

also testament is destined forever to be emo, so no luv for him.

He's got Succubus... and potatoes.

[Big K]

You know something, this topic needs more than just romance, children and hottness in storyline.

We need something better to talk about.

Like. . . . Faust!!!!!

He is the greatest GG character ever, so lets start talking about his sanity, lovelife, sanity, knowledge of the universe, sanity, storyline, sanity and more importantly. . . . SANITY!!!!!

[Lou_Cypher]

No, let's talk about our president, Robo-Ky and his sister. Is it possible those two would have an incestuous relationship should Paracelsus "disappear." Yeah I know, I'm scandalous. Well if Ky's having an affair with a Gear, shouldn't his counterpart have one too?

[Blade]

I'm starting to think you guys don't read anything I post. ;_;