Blazblue: Alter Memory

[Legacy Edge]

What are the lambda torture scenes everyone is referring to?

The flashbacks with the scientists experimenting on her?

[SixWingedAngel]

=_= Lambda torture scene was not the "best" scenes of her story DAMN IT! Those were the most cruel and sad scenes of her story D:<

YOU CRUEL PERSON >:T But yes the scene was one of the things that made me and many people sympathize Lambda.

Lol, can't say that I enjoyed watching Lambda agonise helplessly but it was definately one of the very impactful moments of bbcs. Uncomfortably impactful.

Actually, the Lambda torture scenes were the best scenes in her story because it showed people how painful a prime-field device life is, gave people reason to actually give a damn about her, and showed people that prime-field devices aren't just robots.

that

Anyhow Hakumen really needs to appear again... =___= He should have been freed by Rachel like a long time ago, yet it still hasn't happened for a long time... wth...

And yeah, they really need to do the Hakumen/Tsubaki scene, but.... looking by the previews... I would say it is highly unlikely unless the episode goes like, Hakumen gets freed, wonders around Kagutsuchi, meets Tsubaki, then after Tsubaki meets Jin inside the NOL HQ.

I don't know if they can cram it all that in episode 9, but we will have to see.

I'm pretty sure they can cram it all successfully in one episode if they want to. 24 minutes is actually a very sufficient timeframe which most anime abuse by stretching scenes. With correct pacing, I've seen episodes managing to pack a surprisingly big amount of content (the latest season of hajime no ippo is a good example). I think though, that the last chance for the hakumen scene to happen would be the next episode unless they decide to stuff it in another way (which wouldn't be surprising).

It also helps that I was a Ragna player the first time I watched Lambda's story, so I liked to hear her scream.

okay ragna players are a bit creepy :P

What are the lambda torture scenes everyone is referring to?

The flashbacks with the scientists experimenting on her?

yeah, those bits at the start of her story, not actually torture, but surely as hell torturing, lol

[Volt]

What are the lambda torture scenes everyone is referring to?

The flashbacks with the scientists experimenting on her?

Yes. Not exactly torture, but certainly works in a pinch.

okay ragna players are a bit creepy :P

You do realize that I'm just trolling Shinwha right?

[Chaoschao222]

You do realize that I'm just trolling Shinwha right?

Let's not do this.

[skd]

Not sure what i love more, blazblue alter memory or shinwha

[FinalDoomGuy]

Not sure what i love more, blazblue alter memory or shinwha

Both are pretty cringey.

I really would like to see the scene where Hakumen tells Tsubaki about the previous timeline and about her sacrifice inspired Hakumen, because that's a lovely scene. The anime just might get it right, after all.

[Shinhwa]

Lol, can't say that I enjoyed watching Lambda agonise helplessly but it was definately one of the very impactful moments of bbcs. Uncomfortably impactful.

When I watched that, I was like... "DAMN IT!!! SOMEONE! SOMEONE HELP HER DX NOOOOOOO!!! QAQ"

I'm pretty sure they can cram it all successfully in one episode if they want to. 24 minutes is actually a very sufficient timeframe which most anime abuse by stretching scenes. With correct pacing, I've seen episodes managing to pack a surprisingly big amount of content (the latest season of hajime no ippo is a good example). I think though, that the last chance for the hakumen scene to happen would be the next episode unless they decide to stuff it in another way (which wouldn't be surprising).

The fact is how it will be Jin vs Tsubaki next episode, but yes I do want to see the Hakumen x Tsubaki scene animated as it was really one of the best scenes of the game.

yeah, those bits at the start of her story, not actually torture, but surely as hell torturing, lol

Torture through mad science... D:

[Chaoschao222]

Annoying is the word I'm going to use. Stay remotely on topic.

SKD pls

[Shinhwa]

I seriously feel not all the characters are getting the love they deserve as they are getting outshadowed by the protagonists XD;;

Like I don't really know if there will be an episode that shows why Litchi joins the Mikado team and if there will be an episode that shows Hazama fighting against other people other than Ragna and Noel. I don't know if Carl, Bang and Platinum will have any more episodes to show up especially =w=;; Arakune included too actually lol.

[Volt]

Like I don't really know if there will be an episode that shows why Litchi joins the Mikado team

Forgot about that. The end will be so rushed. What events they have to cover on the last 4 episodes?

[Shinhwa]

Forgot about that. The end will be so rushed. What events they have to cover on the last 4 episodes?

Ok so these are the remaining episode names:

The Power of Order (秩序の力 Chitsujo no Chikara)

Cocoon of the Godslayer (神殺しの繭 Kamigoroshi no Mayu)

Murakumo Awakens (叢雲覚醒 Murakumo Kakusei)

Expense for the Future (未来への代償 Mirai e no Daishō)

The episode 9 definitely focuses on Jin and Tsubaki but the question is if it will cover the heart warming scene with Hakumen and Tsubaki. The fact is how it happened before Jin and Tsubaki fought, so that's one thing that needs to be considered. I am not too sure if there will also be Ragna vs Jin where Jin still cannot pull out Yukianesa. The other factor to take in is the conversation between Ragna and Rachel before he even fights Jin in the NOL HQ, where I have no idea if that can even happen right now.

Episode 10 will surely be Hazama vs Noel where she fights against him but then he tells her the truth behind her existence and identity. Not too sure if it will cover other fights that happen after Noel is turned into a puppet that takes orders.

Episode 11 is definitely the True Ending episode where Ragna fights against Terumi. It may also have Hakumen vs Mu-12 and Jin vs Mu-12. Along with Rachel getting captured by Phantom and Mikado. Either this episode or next episode will have Lambda with Nu's memories fully awakened sacrificing herself to protect Ragna

Episode 12, looking by the title, I would say this is the Mu-12 vs Ragna episode where he sacrifices his arm to save her, but this episode may be the one that has Lambda's sacrifice looking by the title of the episode. It will have Mikado appearing in front of Ragna, Jin and Noel, after Terumi spreads Phantom's virus on Takahamagara.

Now, out of these 4 episodes, there needs to be the following that needs to be covered:

1. Litchi joining the Mikado team to save Arakune

2. Rachel route as it leads to her meeting the Mikado

3. Hakumen route, especially the Hakumen x Tsubaki scene (they need to do this next episode or else it won't make sense)

4. Noel route that actually leads to her facing against Terumi (will probably be covered in episode 10)

5. Lambda's route where she meets Noel and then has to fight with the fake Nu-13 after getting teleported into the dark space by Hazama and Phantom

6. Carl vs Relius

Edited December 1, 2013 by Shinhwa

[Volt]

The Power of Order (秩序の力 Chitsujo no Chikara)

Cocoon of the Godslayer (神殺しの繭 Kamigoroshi no Mayu)

Murakumo Awakens (叢雲覚醒 Murakumo Kakusei)

Expense for the Future (未来への代償 Mirai e no Daishō)

Now, out of these 4 episodes, there needs to be the following that needs to be covered:

1. Litchi joining the Mikado team to save Arakune

2. Rachel route as it leads to her meeting the Mikado

3. Hakumen route, especially the Hakumen x Tsubaki scene (they need to do this next episode or else it won't make sense)

4. Noel route that actually leads to her facing against Terumi (will probably be covered in episode 10)

5. Lambda's route where she meets Noel and then has to fight with the fake Nu-13 after getting teleported into the dark space by Hazama and Phantom

6. Carl vs Relius

Episode 9 will probably cover Hakumen's escaping jail, telling Tsubaki some heartwrenching story, let her go try to kill Jin, Jin will get whacked because Yukianesa is useless, and Tsubaki will get mindscrewed so bad that her clothes will turn black. Basically a merge of Hakumen and Jin's story.

Noel's route will probably work like Hazama's story. Hazama will recruit Litchi, go turn Noel crazy, whack Ragna with Ouroboros and end laughing. This will happen in Episode 10.

11 will probably happen like Shinhwa said. 12 is the surprising conclusion of Ragna losing an arm (Again) and the epilogue.

This way every major events fit, except for Carl vs. Relius. Which is not that important to the overall story.

[Shinhwa]

Pretty much saying, majority of the side characters get no love for this anime TwT;;

[BlackYakuzu94]

Now you see how I totally feel about this episode <3

Lambda is too disgustingly adorable and she melted my heart for sure. XD

Noel was annoying for me due to well... she isn't really the commonly known "heroine" character ^^;

She is a battle-female heroine in a way I guess. Not a romantic type heroine (well this is a fighting anime/game), but there are other reasons why I am kind of annoyed of her...

Kokonoe although I somewhat hate her attitude towards artificially made beings and her selfishness, she can be a funny character I guess :p

It was verified that the animator studio was indeed TeamKG, and they have no history of any animation works whatsoever. So practically saying, Chronophantasma and Alter Memory was their only work. It is possible they are just a team that was made as a Blazblue exclusive animating studio for a temporary time, but... maybe it is because they are practically a new studio that their artwork and style is somewhat bad as it goes around and around from one style to another for some episodes. Also there were some inconsistency in the line works for the art (noticeable even in this episode if you look at Lambda's eyes in some scenes) along with body proportions (episode 7 mostly).

I am sure the sacrifice scene of Lambda will be more dramatic and heart crushing to see compared to how it went in the original games (CS, CSII, CSEX), where of course, I will probably cry.

Sugita was always one of my most favorite and admired seiyuu since the day he played Kyon from Haruhi XD

DVD I have no idea XD;;

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[Shinhwa]

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Huh... what? O.o

[Domenic93]

HY HEART

LAMBDYYYYYYYYYYYY

Oh god, my heart melted with this episode. How in the world was this mess of an anime able to produce an episode that was actually a positive addition to a lackluster part of the original series?

I had dropped this after the first episode, because i found it a weird mashup of scenes from the games with some quite embarrassing moments and all of this being quite badly animated. I wanted to pick it back up for some time but i decided to do it after i heard there was a lambda episode.

At the second episode and after this i looked it from a different angle. It was a quite enjoyable way to remember the events of CSEX, much more relaxing and entertaining.

I would never recommend it to someone who has not played the games, but for fans of the series its very entertaining, if you look at it off course with no expectations.

So yea, i enjoyed episode 2-7 a lot. I actually hadn't watched anime for about a month, but it was definately a nice way to "come back" (off to catch up with HxH now).

And then episode 8 came, that was excellent. Actually it wasn't only the feels, Ragna was pretty good especially with the realization he came to at the end and kokonoe was pretty funny.

Apart from that the anime in general had some pretty good moments like Hazama raging after tsubaki and noel failed to kill each other at episode 7 and tao being the awesomeness she is.

And seriously i never found noel annoying in the games, but here well....she kinda does annoy me :S

Anyway i always thought that BB's story had potential in an anime adaption given of course the correct studio. Well Alter Memory is definitely not the masterpiece of the year but its not bad for a fan of the series. They might have actually gotten a better studio to adapt it if they waited maybe a year or so. Well KG doesn't have the hghest budget of them all.

So all in all, looking forward to the next episode. Actually looking forward to Hazama-Ragna-Lambda at the climax. Im ready for Sugita's and Nakamura's awesome voice acting to blow me away, and of course for lambda's cuteness to shine once again.

Anyone knows if the DVD's are selling well? Preorders were decent i believe when it first came out.

also they need more than 12 episodes, to flesh out this monster of a story properly. since we haven't even seen carl since episode 3, and people probably don't even know arakune is connected to litchi, and makoto has done nothing, I hope they go the hellsing ultimate route after they finish making the games with like a full 26 episodes, or even a 12 episode covering calamity trigger only

[Shinhwa]

Makoto will surely do something on Episode 9 or 10 from the looks of it.

Also, do you guys consider this entire anime canon or non-canon? This guy on the wiki is like arguing that the anime should be considered non-canon just because it didn't follow the story in the game 100% =_=...

[SixWingedAngel]

One of the many possibilities of the Continuum Shift

[Shinhwa]

One of the many possibilities of the Continuum Shift

That's what I said. He still denies it. =_=

Go check episode 8 page for the anime on the wikia and you will see it. The guy is like ridiculous =.=;

[SixWingedAngel]

To me they are both valid each in their own continuity (anime/games) and they can all count as canon due to the flexibility of the parallel universes coming with the continuum shift possibilities thing. It's as simple as it can get. Not to mention that the lambda/ragna interaction is one of the instances that is handled much, much better in the anime (game scene were ragna is angry at terumi because of Λ's death seems completely forced).

[BlackYakuzu94]

Huh... what? O.o

My stupid ass phone, sorry.

[InWithTheAshes]

The art usually seems worse when you collect all the bad parts in one place. I mean, you have nothing to compare it to. And even if the total length of these moments is, like, a minute or two, it still feels like a lot because of the number of pictures.

Even if there are better shots, I wouldn't say any of the animation is of a high enough quality to compensate for the worse portions of it, especially seeing that a lot of the backgrounds are CG.

Art for this episode was pretty decent, some peeps should stop doing what can be done in like, every animated series ever, because it gets tiring after a while.

Except that, while you could go through every single piece of animation created and point out errors, I doubt the majority of them would contain mistakes at such a concentration. It would be rare to find something such as Schroedinger's Telephone or tuning fork sword, anyway.

[Domenic93]

Makoto will surely do something on Episode 9 or 10 from the looks of it.

Also, do you guys consider this entire anime canon or non-canon? This guy on the wiki is like arguing that the anime should be considered non-canon just because it didn't follow the story in the game 100% =_=...

well the fact that jin didn't fall in the cauldron in the first time loop(which is very important), is a big indication

[Zedar90]

well the fact that jin didn't fall in the cauldron in the first time loop(which is very important), is a big indication

Doesn't really matter as long as Jin fell into the gate during the non-noel timeline. After all, Jin appeared in the past before the loop start point.

[SoWL]

Even if there are better shots, I wouldn't say any of the animation is of a high enough quality to compensate for the worse portions of it, especially seeing that a lot of the backgrounds are CG.

The thing is, it doesn't have to "compensate" for anything, you just have to take the show as a whole, not pick the worst parts and wonder why the show looks so bad. If I were to make a gallery of the few objectively good parts of the show, I could say that none of its worst parts could make these particular episodes worse. But I don't, because that's just as fallacious.

And I'm not sure what the backgrounds have to do with this

Except that, while you could go through every single piece of animation created and point out errors, I doubt the majority of them would contain mistakes at such a concentration.

Is this where we go and compare the exact percentages of subjectively bad animation in different shows? (Not talking about double phones and stuff like that, of course). Some SHAFT shows are notorious for having a lot of QUALITY slip through the cracks, some would say that BB has it good compared to those. And those are made by an experienced studio, too, which is not as justified as BB being animated by newbies.