[Xrd] News & (Theoretical) Gameplay Discussion

[D.R.F.]

May was an orphan taken in by johnny. ky and millia, both orphans, one turned knight another assassin. Baldhead (faust) killer surgeon because of an accident caused by zato. Zato, leader of the assassins guild. Potemkin, slave being forced to fight for Zepp. Kliff, original leader of the holy order knights, sol.... so much about sol ahha. One of the original scientists behind gear project-turned prototype gear, which got recruited as a holy knight and then turned into a bounty hunter. Testament, orphan-turned-knight-turned-gear, justice 1st production gear and final boss (also Aria:D), baiken secret character and first obviously japanese character after japan gets mauled by the gears. Oh and axl, time travelling British man with giant legs.

If its not edgy in the first game, at least we can say there's a lot of orphans

Edit: can't forget That Man tho!

[tataki]

so i watched that video and you said getting hit out of YRC startup means you still lose meter, but as far as I'm aware that isn't exactly accurate. According to ruu and kedako's data (your video description only credits kedako, but i'm pretty sure ruu was involved too), the meter is taken on the 4th frame for YRCs and PRCs, so if you get hit out before that you do not lose meter. YRC also apparently has 2 frames of invul according to kedako's tweet (https://twitter.com/kedako_faital/status/455393624977469440), so you only have a single frame to get hit out of, but if you do get hit out not only do you not lose meter, you do not get counter hit. (or the invul may not be frame one and may actually start on frame 6, idk i'm not too sure about that.)

I've seen two video examples of this actually happening in gameplay.

 

of course I may be completely wrong, but I'm pretty sure that's how YRC and PRC work

 

Edit: here's the actual progression of a YRC:

1～5F：RC発生モーション（4F目にゲージ消費。4～5F目に攻撃食らうとゲージのみ消費）

　6F：黄RCエフェクト発生（無敵。このフレームまで周囲も動く）

　7～24F：暗転18F。お互いに行動不能。（こちらは黄RCのモーション変化あり）

　25F：黄RCの硬直。（無敵。相手動き始める）

　26～：行動可能。

and PRC:

1～14F：RC発生モーション（4F目にゲージ消費。4～14F目に攻撃食らうとゲージのみ消費）

　15F：紫RCエフェクト発生（無敵。このフレームまで周囲も動く）

　16～33F：暗転18F。お互いに行動不能。（こちらは紫RCのモーション変化あり）

　34F：紫RCの硬直。（無敵。相手動き始める）

　35～：行動可能。

 

(http://mayjunkie.web.fc2.com/system.txt)

Forgot to mention Ruu so that's fixed.

 

Regarding YRCs there's an old video that got linked on Dustloop where Slayer gets hit and loses 1/4 bar, before the YRC flash gets to come out. It's an unclear edge case considering that even the frame data is unofficial, so it's probably best to wait for the game to be released and if needed, add a note to the video detaling things further.

[greatfernman]

Forgot to mention Ruu so that's fixed.

 

Regarding YRCs there's an old video that got linked on Dustloop where Slayer gets hit and loses 1/4 bar, before the YRC flash gets to come out. It's an unclear edge case considering that even the frame data is unofficial, so it's probably best to wait for the game to be released and if needed, add a note to the video detaling things further.

and btw I actually bothered reading the kedako tweet and I was wrong about the 2 frame invul on YRC, I made a hasty assumption. The invul frames don't seem to be from frame 1, so it appears you do have 3 frames to get hit out of YRC. I'm pretty sure he meant there are two invul frames, one on frame 6 and the other on frame 25 (as the actual compiled data seems to imply).

 

Regarding getting hit out of YRC and still costing meter, that's presumably getting hit out on the 4th or 5th frame, since the YRC effect is only on the 6th frame

Here, I think this was done by SuperJ: http://imgur.com/a/KMKHq

There was also a jonio stream where slayer got hit out of some super into YRC and didn't lose the YRC meter

[king of heart]

Anyone else a little bit pissed at GG getting infected with BB's Murakumo virus, now that we have both Ram and Elphelt?

First valentine was presented in Overture which was released before BB.

And the boss characters in GG were always female characters except for spin offs.

[Aze]

First valentine was presented in Overture which was released before BB.

And the boss characters in GG were always female characters except for spin offs.

I was going to post something about Testament being a boss in the first GG, but he's pretty darn effeminate.

[TD]

Testament could pass for a woman in the first game. The first trap I've ever seen in my life, no pun intended. He's more manly now but first timers will still wonder why the man is wearing such a long dress with heels, long hair, and a training bra.

[White Man]

I was going to post something about Testament being a boss in the first GG, but he's pretty darn effeminate.

 

So long hair + a slender build = effeminate?  Naw man, he's oldschool goth rocker all the way.

[KD]

Add his outfit on top that and it's not see weird to see the effeminate claim.

Can't remember but are they ok with footage release from public TGS days? Kinda hoping they do a demoing of Sin and Elly like they did for BBCP's console characters at TGS too.

[Uncivilized Elk]

So long hair + a slender build = effeminate?  Naw man, he's oldschool goth rocker all the way.

He's effeminate.

Nothing wrong with it whatsoever. But it is true.

I just want a new female character without overbearing or awkward fanservice for horny tweens.

[TD]

^this, never thought I'd see TOO much boobs. While not a problem, throwing a double d on any female for the sake of sales is extremely unoriginal and stale at this point. It's like eating too much of the same thing,soon the very sight of that food drives a person mad.

I wouldn't mind a small break from all these damn tits. Can't we get a modest girl just once more before continuing the fan service? Just one more time please. Just a size reduction or longer pants or something else modest I dunno. We don't need a nun, just you know... A modest girl with some damn morals or something. Maybe I'm crazy but seeing the same double d's in anime, games, movies, commercials damn give it a rest.

[TeeJay]

I always liked Millia's design-- maybe not X so much. Lol, characters with little fan-service that aren't underage-- Tsubaki?

 

I'm curious to see some TGS gameplay. I keep forgetting about Sin after the latest character announcement. I'm looking forward to gameplay more than anything. As a Robo-Ky user, I'm looking for someone to main. 

[White Man]

^this, never thought I'd see TOO much boobs. While not a problem, throwing a double d on any female for the sake of sales is extremely unoriginal and stale at this point. It's like eating too much of the same thing,soon the very sight of that food drives a person mad.

 

On the one hand, I hear exactly where you're coming from.  On the other hand, I'm simply thankful to have an anime fighting game where the majority of the fanservice characters are legal.

[Uncivilized Elk]

On the one hand, I hear exactly where you're coming from.  On the other hand, I'm simply thankful to have an anime fighting game where the majority of the fanservice characters are legal.

Since you put it that way...

[SoWL]

On the one hand, I hear exactly where you're coming from.  On the other hand, I'm simply thankful to have an anime fighting game where the majority of the fanservice characters are legal.

You're grossly overblowing the amount of underage fanservice in fighting games. Then again, it hasn't been too long since GG's fanservice queen was three years old...

 

Also, wasn't GG supposed to be as metal as they come? Sex always comes in the same package as rock'n'roll.

[Soviet Bear]

Also, wasn't GG supposed to be as metal as they come? Sex always comes in the same package as rock'n'roll.

 

That's what I-no's for. She has that raw rock'n'roll sex approach. It's a really different tone from um... contemporary fanservice I guess? But then again, GG covers a lot of ground. I mean, Millia's new design is really normal. I guess they want to have characters for all tastes.

[tataki]

and btw I actually bothered reading the kedako tweet and I was wrong about the 2 frame invul on YRC, I made a hasty assumption. The invul frames don't seem to be from frame 1, so it appears you do have 3 frames to get hit out of YRC. I'm pretty sure he meant there are two invul frames, one on frame 6 and the other on frame 25 (as the actual compiled data seems to imply).

 

Regarding getting hit out of YRC and still costing meter, that's presumably getting hit out on the 4th or 5th frame, since the YRC effect is only on the 6th frame

Here, I think this was done by SuperJ: http://imgur.com/a/KMKHq

There was also a jonio stream where slayer got hit out of some super into YRC and didn't lose the YRC meter

I'm 90% sure it was slayer who got hit in the example I mentioned. Early on people were doing random YRCs and getting hit out of them a lot so it would be good to review those videos or wait for the console release.

[ivanchu77]

Anyone else a little bit pissed at GG getting infected with BB's Murakumo virus, now that we have both Ram and Elphelt?

 

Murakumos are one of the best things of Blazblue, so i´m really happy we are getting a equivalent (Divas) of them in guilty gear, can´t wait to play and main both Ram-chan and Elphelt

[SoWL]

That's what I-no's for. She has that raw rock'n'roll sex approach. It's a really different tone from um... contemporary fanservice I guess? But then again, GG covers a lot of ground. I mean, Millia's new design is really normal. I guess they want to have characters for all tastes.

No, no, you don't get it, each and every character has to be metal to the max, otherwise players will complain that the character "does not fit GG" or "is designed by Mori". Just look at Bedman and how people reacted to him.

[greatfernman]

I'm 90% sure it was slayer who got hit in the example I mentioned. Early on people were doing random YRCs and getting hit out of them a lot so it would be good to review those videos or wait for the console release.

i'm not questioning the example you are referring to, I'm just putting forward two other examples where getting hit out of YRC costs no meter, just follow the link I linked, sol fafnir>YRCs and gets hit out but doesn't lose meter.

Anyway it's your video so do whatever you want with it, it's just one claim that is not entirely accurate in my opinion.

[Soviet Bear]

No, no, you don't get it, each and every character has to be metal to the max, otherwise players will complain that the character "does not fit GG" or "is designed by Mori". Just look at Bedman and how people reacted to him.

 

I'm guilty myself of complaining about Ram and El, although El ended up having shotguns so that turned out fine.

 

But even with the complaints, the cast in GG has always been really, really diverse. Guro, amputees, pantyshots, pretty boys, buff boys, not so boy boys. There's something for everyone in the end. (Also, Bedman is totally GG material.)

[DaiAndOh]

No, no, you don't get it, each and every character has to be metal to the max, otherwise players will complain that the character "does not fit GG" or "is designed by Mori". Just look at Bedman and how people reacted to him.

Bedman is plenty Metal.

Really starting to get annoyed with more of this talk about who fits or doesn't fits. Can't we agree GG has a diverse cast of characters and leave it at that?

[DeathArcana]

we cant, because clearly they will never be as metal as the former GG characters like Bridget and Jam

Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

[destruction_adv]

Not until people realize there'z more diversity in metal than just a whole bunch of black and leather.

[HeWhoRocksAlot]

There's a new Famitsu article about Elphelt.
http://www.famitsu.com/news/201409/11060880.html

and Gamer with better resolution.
http://www.gamer.ne.jp/news/201409110048/

EDIT:
Gematsu translated the article
http://gematsu.com/2014/09/guilty-gear-xrd-sign-elphelt-detailed

Xrd site was updated with Elphelt profile. Nothing much that we don't already know.
http://ggxrd.com/cs/character_elphelt.html

Edited September 11, 2014 by HeWhoRocksAlot

[D.R.F.]

Looks awesome. Oh and btw millia looks amazing in xrd, so yea