[P4AU] News & Gameplay Discussion

[Starlight777]

On second thought this rumor feels so ridiculous to me, I actually want to believe it. I just cannot imagine how Rise would fight.

[LeDom]

That source doesn't really look legitimate, so I'd say the best option is to wait until the 25th.

On the rumour: Ken sounds like a believable possibility but Rise, on the other hand has a Persona that isn't meant to have any fighting abilities. Then again, she can participate in an all out attack in Golden so the chances of her being a playable fighter isn't exactly 0% either. Still not counting on it, but if she does make the cut, it would be a nice surprise.

And wow, the Ken Hate on that other forum is downright violent. On the event that he's added to the roster, I may end up maining the poor little guy out of pity.

[Starlight777]

That source doesn't really look legitimate, so I'd say the best option is to wait until the 25th.

On the rumour: Ken sounds like a believable possibility but Rise, on the other hand has a Persona that isn't meant to have any fighting abilities. Then again, she can participate in an all out attack in Golden so the chances of her being a playable fighter isn't exactly 0% either. Still not counting on it, but if she does make the cut, it would be a nice surprise.

And wow, the Ken Hate on that other forum is downright violent. On the event that he's added to the roster, I may end up maining the poor littly guy out of pity.

I wouldn't play him out of pity, I'd play him because his hatedom sounds like a generous supply of salt.

[swordsman09]

I'd rather play Koromaru because I know he would have a sick Valkenhayn-like wolf style. Maybe if we replace Rise with Adachi everything will be fine.

Maybe somehow though, Rise got a new Persona that can fight and scan like Mitsuru's. And if she really IS playable, she'll probably play kinda like Azrael with his weakness crap.

[PK Gaming]

I made a hypothetical moveset for Rise

 

 

 

Normal Attacks
5A: A forward kick
5AA: Rise delivers a vertical whack to the opponent with her megaphone
5AAA: Rise grabs a microphone stand and swings it forwards
2A: A crouching kick 
5B: Rise yells in her megaphone and creates a speech bubble effect (similar to Kanji's 5B)
2B: Rise grabs a microphone stand and swings it upwards
5C: A forward thrust with Himiko
5D(weakness scan): Himiko spawns a projectile that creates a weak point on the opponent on hit. Once an opponent has their weakness exposed, some of Rise's attacks will have new properties (Such as fatal counter, crumple, etc. Similar to Azrael from BlazBlue)
j.A: Rise quickly takes out her microphone and thrusts it forward
j.B: Rise swings a microphone stand at a 45 degree angle
j.C: Same as the ground version.
j.D: Same as the ground version. Projectile spawns at a 45 degree angle.
Reversal: Himiko creates a protective barrier around Rise. Deals low damage and knocks the opponent back. 
 
Skills
Risette♥Special: Rise sings into her microphone, causing musical notes to appear that knock the opponent upwards.
Third Eye: Summons spherical eye on a field that acts like a bomb. Can be manually detonated. Automatically explodes when the opponent comes in contact with it. 
Mind Slice: Himiko fires a beam of light that dissipates after a certain point. (Air OK)
 
SP Skills
Full Analysis: Himiko scans the opponent and creates a weakpoint. Lasts for 20 seconds. (Deals low damage)
Relaxing Wave: Rise's healthy slowly starts to regen (ala Junpei's Victory Cry). The effect is cancelled when Rise is hit.
 
Awakening Skill
Supreme Insight. All normal hits cause weaknesses OR all counterhits become fatal counters.
 
Instant Kill: The All Out Attack from Persona 4: Golden! If the opponent happens to be P4 character, they willbe omitted from the All Out Attack.

 

I drew from her natural skillset in P4, the P4G additions and even her Shadow.

[Justice7541]

What is this other forum lol

Man Ken is super hot in most of the Japanese fanart, I'm sure he'll live up to the hype. Although it'd be funny if he became a fat otaku loser since P3.

[SoWL]

I almost got excited about this rumor, but then realized that Rise is not Fuuka. Ken can be pretty damn cool, though, looking forward to him.

[Volt]

Well, considering that if they add Ken and Rise to the game it will probably open up 4 slots...

(Or maybe they'll just readjust the current CSS without losing symmetry and don't add anybody else just to insult everyone)

Who could be the other 2 characters? The most likely to appear are Adachi, Makoto/Minato/Blue Hair and Koromaru (Valk's Wolf hitbox could work).

Too bad we'll never see The Reaper in a fighting game. He's way too broken.

[D.R.F.]

Fuck the reaper everyone in here beat his ass at least three times in a row.

[Anne]

Let's just wait until the 25th guys ^.^

It's fun to speculate on rumors and so forth, but we're delving into wishlist territory.

[Poultrygeist]

If you still have any doubts about Ken, the fact that his seiyuu is tweeting about the event should lay all doubt to rest.

https://twitter.com/Megumi_Ogata/status/456797847199817728

[D.R.F.]

.but doubts are all we have!

[Dawn of Musou]

I wouldn't play him out of pity, I'd play him because his hatedom sounds like a generous supply of salt.

Sigging this quote. This is beautiful.

 

 

Ken is probably gonna be fun to try out, always liked him in P3.

[Strife]

If you still have any doubts about Ken, the fact that his seiyuu is tweeting about the event should lay all doubt to rest.

https://twitter.com/Megumi_Ogata/status/456797847199817728

 

Weeelp. It looks like BestBuy was on point then. Can't wait to see how he plays.

[shoryusatsu999]

Won't be surprised if Rise ends up similar to Yukiko: a Persona-dependent glass cannon.

[Luminos564]

Won't be surprised if Rise ends up similar to Yukiko: a Persona-dependent glass cannon.

 

You're thinking of Lizzie for that one. Yukiko's toolset much more dedicated to (and better at) zoning than Lizzie who is supposed to be a Persona+SP-dependent cannon. I will grant you that she is pretty dependent on Konohana-Sakuya for her zoning though, but her damage is not explicitly high unless you do some Fire leveling.

[TekkamanArk]

Why are people wanting Koro in this game? His hitbox would be tiny as hell. The same reason that Jubei isnt in BB.

Jubei - Put him in his armor, add it to his hitbox like Carl's hat

Koromaru - Got fully grown between P3 and P4U or something like Jojo'sIggu

Wow, easy fixes!

[Jotamide]

I'd rather play Koromaru because I know he would have a sick Valkenhayn-like wolf style. Maybe if we replace Rise with Adachi everything will be fine.

Maybe somehow though, Rise got a new Persona that can fight and scan like Mitsuru's. And if she really IS playable, she'll probably play kinda like Azrael with his weakness crap.

That would make her my instant sub. I really hope this becomes true.

[Justice7541]

Jubei - Put him in his armor, add it to his hitbox like Carl's hat

Koromaru - Got fully grown between P3 and P4U or something like Jojo'sIggu

Wow, easy fixes!

What if it's just Koromaru in a muscle suit

[RWA Announcer]

Luminos is right on this one, Shoryusatsu.  If ANYONE can be dubbed P4A's glass cannon, it's our Lizzie, especially with the nerf to Mind Charge giving us back Blue Health to heal up.  Also, for what it's worth, Best Buy has completely yanked that description and release date from their website.  All it says now is, "This Item Is No Longer Available," and that the item is out of stock, so....

[Torri-]

I had thought that Ken was a possibility, but I thought we would see an Adachi update before anything. I can't help but feel excited now that information could be on the horizon. Damnit, A week is so long...

[PK Gaming]

P4U2 patch notes are live

 

[Sourenga]

Here's something... Character Specific stuff coming soon...

 

Guard Cancel Evasive Action:

- Counter instead of a Fatal Counter

- Total number of frames decreased, moving distance increased

 

Shadow:

- Maximum health of the Shadow characters has been increased a lot

- Awakened SP Skills can now be used with the cost of 50 SP

- During the Shadow Berserk, the cost for One More Cancel and Guard Cancel has been halved

- If the Shadow Berserk is activated from a standing position, the opponent can now move during that time. But... your character is now completely invincible during the activation animation.

- Works the same old way if you use the Berserk to cancel something

 

S-Hold System

- We shortened the time before the gauge appears 

- Meter that has been charged to MAX stays on the screen for a longer time now before it disappears

 

All-Out Attack: C-Finish

- Gives you always a Fatal Counter no matter how much you mash buttons during the All-Out Rush.

 

Training

- Forced Fatal Counter added to Counter settings from 4+START 

 

Others

- We loosened the conditions for a "Rank Matches" to appear

- We fixed the bug that made it impossible to continue playing the game in a certain condition.

- New gameplay modes will be added. More details to follow.

 

Characters:

 

YU:

2C

- The amount of block stun has been decreased

j. D

- Faster recovery

Lightning Flash (Shiden Issen) 

- Invincibility removed from before and right after the screen blackout

- SB-version has lowered damage, and the move starts now after the blackout

Cross Slash

- SB-version's damage nerfed

 

YOSUKE:

2C

- The amount of block stun has been decreased

Instant Turn Flying Slash(V-Slasher)

- SB-version now has a faster start-up and the damage reduction has been loosened

Sukukaja

- D-version has increased recovery

- SB-version has a faster recovery now

 

CHIE

5A

- Deals now a little longer block stun

5C

-The reach of the move won't now decrease when its used from a dash

2C

- Is now dash-cancelable

Black Spot (C-version)

- can now be super-cancelled with the same timing as D-version

 

YUKIKO

Agi

- A-version has increased untechable time for the opponent

- Charge it for a certain time, and it will explode twice

Dancing Flames

- A-version: Persona stays on-screen for a shorter time

- Damage nerfed

- B and SB version: If used as the first move in the combo, combo damage nerfed even more

Fire Boost High

- Faster recovery

 

KANJI

Air backdash

- Increased travel distance

Auto Combo 3rd Move

- Decreased travel distance

5B (normal version)

- Is now special-cancelable

2C

- Is now special-cancelable

Tatsumi-style Ass Whoopin'

- SB-version damage has been nerfed

 

TEDDIE

Auto Combo 3rd Move

- You gain a SP boost after the fourth hit of the move

- Jump cancel and P-Combo are no longer possible after the fourth hit

- 3 hit of the move also has the same effects

2D & j. 2D

- Increased "P Combo Route"

- D and j.D come out when they should come

Sweep

- Hit box fixed

What Will Come Out? SP

- Time needed to wait, until being able to reuse the move, has been decreased

- Overall amount of frames has been decreased

- Persona will disappear from the screen faster

 

NAOTO

5D-D

- Only when using 4D, Naoto will automatically face the side opponent is during the move

Double Fangs (B-version)

- Counter Hit has increased untechable time for the opponent

Critical Shot

- SB-version damage has been nerfed

 

MITSURU

5A 

- Decreased kickback

Sweep

- Invincibility of the feint-version has been decreased

Bufula

- Latter half of the move can be cancelled to any version of Coup Droit

 

AKIHIKO

Dash

- Speed increased

5C

- The reach of the move won't now decrease when its used from a dash

2C

- Automatically turns the side the opponent is, when used from far away

- Silence stays active longer after a hit

Sweep

- Hurt box fixed for Cyclone LV0 version

Sonic Punch

- Deals now a Fatal Counter

Cyclone Uppercut

- LV5 minimum damage increased

 

AIGIS

Furious Action

- Blow-off on a counter hit has been changed and the opponent can now tech from it

Radical Cannon

- Now explodes only when you release the button

Orion

- Now also catches the opponents standing on the ground

Heavenly Spear

- SB-version damage nerfed

- Attack now starts after the screen blackout

 

ELIZABETH

2C

- Increased travel distance during the move

2D

- The time until you can summon the Persona has been decreased

Maziodyne

- While in Awakening, recovery from aerial A-version has been decreased

- While in Awakening, untechable time from counter hit of A-version has been increased

Mabufudyne

- A-version has now a faster start-up

Magarudyne

- Recovery after D-version's landing has been decreased

- Damage reduction has been loosened

- During the Awakening, SB-version's damage reduction has been loosened and the untechable time has been increased

Maragidyne

- Persona now returns back to Elizabeth after the C and D version of the move

Randomizer

- Overall recovery has been decreased

- After the opponent is caught up in the move, Elizabeth is fully invincibile until the move ends

 

LABRYS

Axe Levels

- Match now starts with Green Axe

Jewel

- Persona's recovery decreased, can be dash-cancelled earlier

- D version's projectile lands on the ground, like SB version

Breaking Wheel

- Invincible from the start of the move

 

SHADOW LABRYS

Terra's Eruption (Change log lists that as the move's name but 8C as its command...?)

- Damage nerfed

Titanomachia

- SB-version's recovery has been greatly shortened

 

YUKARI

Feather Flip

- While C, D and SB versions are rising, Yukari is invincible

- Landing recovery has been decreased

Feather Shoot

- After the shot, you can now move her around while she's in the air

- Duration of the ailment has been shortened

- B-version now causes Silence

Hyper Feather Shoot

- A-version shoots a faster arrow

 

JUNPEI

Auto Combo 2nd Move

- Faster start-up, so the opponent will be forced to block it if they blocked 5A

2C

- "P Combo Route" has been changed, so it can now be comboed into 5C

2D

- Faster start-up, shorter recovery

j.C

- Increased untechable time

j.2D

- Decreased recovery

Super Push Bant

- Decreased recovery

Victory Cry

- Each time you gain additional 10 runs, the amount of automatically recovering HP&SP will be increased

 

SHO Minazuki

5A

- Increased recovery

5D & j. D

- With 2D you can cancel them from Flash Fang (Senga), Soaring Fang (Shouga) and High-Speed Movement

j.D

- Landing recovery has been decreased

Survival knife

- Afterimage of the knife has been altered so the knife is now easier to see

Soaring Fang (Shouga)

- SB version's incinvibility starts later

Moon Smasher (Getsumen Kudaki)

- Minimum damage has been increased

 

Sho MINAZUKI (Tsukiyomi)

5A

- Increased recovery

5C

- Shortened recovery and added untechable time

2C

- Shortened recovery, now ground bounces on a hit to an aerial opponent

- Is not jump-cancelable

j. C

- Shortened recovery

Survival Knife

- Afterimage of the knife has been altered so the knife is now easier to see

Spiritsucking (Kyuuma)/Bloodsucking (Kyuuketsu)

- Fatal Counter removed

Fantasy Fog (Mugen no Kiri)

- Damage reduction has been loosened

 

 

 

EDIT: Fixed Arc's typo with Kanji

EDIT 2: Mistranslations fixed

Edited April 18, 2014 by Sourenga

[shtkn]

 i think the notes for mitsuru say:

*5A pushback reduced

*sweep feint low profile duration reduced (?)

*can cancel last half of any bufula summon animation into any coup droit

 

 

edit: i really like the junpei change, makes points still more important, but he seems to get points pretty easily once he can clean hit people. i guess that's quite the balancing act they've got to handle.

 

also, i'm surprised the changes are this small. i figured it'd be more drastic. maybe they're saving that for when the console version comes out with the supposed 2 additional characters.

[brett_]

Is there a link to the patch notes? Trying to look for the source of all these translations...