Monarch Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 When a supposed 0 bar connection is more stable than a 3 bar. Also, seeing a room titled "No S tiers".
StylisH Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 You saying against Nu? As in, Nu vs Tager/Ara? Cuz Tager beats Nu now Tager vs Arakune. Still the worst matchup to me
pokemonblaze234 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 When a supposed 0 bar connection is more stable than a 3 bar. Also, seeing a room titled "No S tiers". go in there and use arakune, then we'll see who's really s tier(on netplay)
BlackYakuzu94 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 Ragna is fast and gets the reward he needs off of his pokes. He also has access to a fast DP so he can OS crossups with a 421ABC input so we have less options to open him up. And CS during OD raid is good. Its definitely a boring matchup that tests the patience of both players though. Â What does the OS cover? This is the first I'm hearing it.
mAc Chaos Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 Look at 421 and flip them around. What do you get?
Poultrygeist Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 That OS should work for anyone with a DP right? Â
Dark Ranger88 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 I don't remember you playing safe very much ranger. Â Well it's different vs Rachel and certain other characters. Rachel gets wind, frog, and pumpkin if I don't rush her down or at least act like I am.
pokemonblaze234 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 Ragna is fast and gets the reward he needs off of his pokes. He also has access to a fast DP so he can OS crossups with a 421ABC input so we have less options to open him up. And CS during OD raid is good. Its definitely a boring matchup that tests the patience of both players though. Any Ragna main would just say that the MU got worse, so i honestly don't if it's good or bad, i'd prolly just call it even at this point
BlackYakuzu94 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 Look at 421 and flip them around. What do you get? Â Â Huh, divido.
greatfernman Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 I find it soooo annoying when im Azrael and a nu/lambda retreats to use D moves. I have NEVER won against anyone who focuses on hardcore zoning when i play as him. I mostly find my self resting my fingers when ppl do nothing but spam projectiles and long range anti airs. (Similar to puting my controller down) growler  though phalanx doesn't plow through lambda swords
Henjin Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 Pretty much anyone who has a wide range of recovery attacks that could avoid getting DD'd all the time like hazamas angled and routed options of his drive moves and tagers sledge hammer. Hell, its even possible to get close with a character that has alot of mobility, like jin and terumi. Of course Azrael has growler but ive never seen a player focuses on keeping distance just to bait a projectile so he can throw them back......... Actually........ what if they did? Even so, using growler against nu is like blocking one hit and leaving yourself open to another judging on how quick you recover after taking in one projectile at a time
dualseeker Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 0 bars being OK, but 3 bars being laggy as hell. Â WHAT DO I TRUST?
greatfernman Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 Pretty much anyone who has a wide range of recovery attacks that could avoid getting DD'd all the time like hazamas angled and routed options of his drive moves and tagers sledge hammer. Hell, its even possible to get close with a character that has alot of mobility, like jin and terumi. Of course Azrael has growler but ive never seen a player focuses on keeping distance just to bait a projectile so he can throw them back......... Actually........ what if they did? Even so, using growler against nu is like blocking one hit and leaving yourself open to another judging on how quick you recover after taking in one projectile at a timeNo its not like blocking because now you have a projectile to threaten her in neutral you can also cancel growler into phalanx so that might beat lambda since she has mandatory follow-ups for her drive Also no of course you aren't going to stand full screen and bait a sword to growler, it's just a tool you have also jump cancelled dash barrier
Henjin Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 0 bars being OK, but 3 bars being laggy as hell. WHAT DO I TRUST? There is this saying called "yolo". When you have never played a person before and their bar is a 0 and their playercard is in english saying they live about two states away. You hear Mr.labuf words echo through your head. Wait, growler can be jump cancelled?
pokemonblaze234 Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 growler  though phalanx doesn't plow through lambda swords This makes me laugh, well, you can grolwer 5DD.4DD, but if you use it neutral, then a good Nu would just bait it out I LOVE to do 214[D]~C to bait out growlers, since every Az falls for it
floatwater Posted July 11, 2015 Posted July 11, 2015 I saw something about the option select mash/DP thing and I'll just go over it a bit SOOOOOOOOOOO when characters who have left/right mixups you can option select mash or DP (depending if you have one or not) For mashing what you are going to do if you are on stick, is hit AB (barrier!) then hit mash on A if they do crossup and it is done correctly you get 2A if not you get barrier (flashing) as for the DP you want to input it while you are holding barrier, so you would input 421ABC some shit like that. if you have a really good AA (example would be ragna and kokonoe since they start at frame 4) you would input something like 412364D to get barrier! when crossed up you would get DP/6A [if you hold 1 though you get just 2A] or if you have 50 meter you get crossup carnage scissors lol. that's pretty much the concept behind it. small note i think 214214ABC give you barrier tech and crossup super. i think. goodbye Â
greatfernman Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 There is this saying called "yolo". When you have never played a person before and their bar is a 0 and their playercard is in english saying they live about two states away. You hear Mr.labuf words echo through your head. Wait, growler can be jump cancelled? No I mean you jump cancel a dash into air barrier to cover distance while blocking, using the momentum from the dashThis makes me laugh, well, you can grolwer 5DD.4DD, but if you use it neutral, then a good Nu would just bait it out I LOVE to do 214[D]~C to bait out growlers, since every Az falls for it I obviously didnt mean you just stand at neutral and just growler, why does everybody assume that. Growler is a tool he has, the fact that nu has to think about whether or not azrael is going to growler gives azrael an in. The threat of growler and phalanx is the point
Henjin Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 Be that as it may, its still a huge stress if all they do is run to the other corner in response.
greatfernman Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 Be that as it may, its still a huge stress if all they do is run to the other corner in response. Then they're cornering themselves and you try to keep them there and kill them I'm not saying the matchup is fun, I'm just saying its really not absolute shit like you seem to think it is
Henjin Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 You make it sound like ive never thought of that. Look all i am saying is that azrael has shitty mobility when it comes to playing cat'n mouse. And getting past gravity seed is a bitch to deal with.
greatfernman Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 You make it sound like ive never thought of that. Look all i am saying is that azrael has shitty mobility when it comes to playing cat'n mouse. And getting past gravity seed is a bitch to deal with. You stated that the matchup makes you so mad you effectively put down the controller I'm telling you it isn't that bad Honestly you just need to get better at the matchup Or play the myriad of other characters you have as balls in your signature that have easier times against nu
Henjin Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 I think you misunderstood my meaning. Sure, i might as well say it gets me mad. But what i ment was frustrating or a little bothered. And i didnt mean put my controller down, i ment giving up fighting competitively. No need to tire out my arm mashing out 66/96 playing tag. Sure youre giving tips to deal with it and i appreciate, really. But my skills arnt good enough to play these distant mind games like that. Oh and you have seemed to miss the part where i say azrael. I already said it would be a different story with terumi and jin. And i dont have this problem at all with hazama.
greatfernman Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 no i realize you said azrael, i'm saying don't play the matchup if you don't like it since you have like 11 characters you play well terumi is't even in your signature so 12 characters i guess
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