[CP] Kokonoe - Gameplay Discussion (Discuss Videos/Combos/Questions/etc.)

[Kurushii]

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Edited November 4, 2013 by Kurushii

[Blackwolfos]

Yay Kokonoe is just as awesome as I thought she'd be.

So far I love how fast she is, its really easy to keep pressure on people, even though it doesn't quite feel like she was designed for that. Can't wait to put in some lab time and get to know her better.

[NoSales]

Kokonoe seems pretty interesting, so far. Her 5A/2A are kinda on the slow side.

Her anti air seems pretty strong. It seems to keep its head inv. during the entire charge.

Also, is 214214X her only form of reversal?

[NecroTheReaper]

Seems like she gets a HUGE increase in damage if she can confirm into her CT. She seems very meter efficient xD so now I'm on challenge 30 with no idea how to combo.

Edit: DERP, Golden Tager it

[EXonestar]

So far i've seen

amane like chip damage

gravity on par with tagers

a high lvl projectile that has made spark bolt/kagura's giant wind gale ball get reduced to nothing

she's got that nice speed

and teleprot mix up to boot like a better version of izayoi

i'm already hearing people talk about 4-6k combos off certain normals without CH.

Wonder what her match ups will be like vs Valk/Hakumen/Litchi/Rachel/Nu/Mu/Hazama/Bang/Tsubaki (since she has teleports and good projectiles + control over her fireball and etc - i wonder how those characters in particular will give her a good/bad time)

[NoSales]

I already uploaded her Challenge 30.

Mine turned out like 10 times easier than the demo lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bs5CmMEWqz4&feature=youtu.be

[Chiekawa]

Kokonoe seems pretty interesting, so far. Her 5A/2A are kinda on the slow side.

Her anti air seems pretty strong. It seems to keep its head inv. during the entire charge.

Also, is 214214X her only form of reversal?

Her 632146D has full invincibilty till the end could be useful with right graviton placement :3

Also her intro with azrael is pretty awesome.

[NecroTheReaper]

That may be easier... but damn that demo combo looms nice. I am more hooked on her than I thought I'd be actually, wasn't with the "ZOMG ITS KOKONOE" group, just thought it'd be cool to have a team of SCIENCE! with Relius.

Becase of her graviton's placement freedom, does that mean a lot of her combos will vary?

[NoSales]

Actually, her 22C seems to have invincibility.

[M19Kamikaze]

It's gonna be a while to getting the timing for "opponent over Graviton" 236D and hit versus just repelling them away.

Any advice on hitting 236C consistently? And 5B for falling opponents? As fun as her combos look, I've realized those two moves may prove problematic.

So I was shocked to learn that the strength of her drives are enough to lock the opponent in place that even her 632146D doesn't pull them in.

I'll probably come back with more questions and "curious notes."

[Kurushii]

I already uploaded her Challenge 30.

Mine turned out like 10 times easier than the demo lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bs5CmMEWqz4&feature=youtu.be

All you have to do is Golden Tager and charge it...

[M19Kamikaze]

All you have to do is Golden Tager and charge it...

Oh that is just.... loool

Hold C, spin the stick around. Easy 7K, 13K if you Overdrive. You know. Assuming your opponent won't block or move out of the way.

Edited November 7, 2013 by M19Kamikaze

[NecroTheReaper]

That's what a graviton fireball is suppose to distract them from. Cuz you know... everyone worries about the ball of fire rather than the giant electrical robot that's charging for more than 2 seconds. Btw, 236C isn't really an issue on timing as long as you put the move in. It has lots of active frames so as long as the moves out before they fall down/into it it should hit.

[Kurushii]

Hit 100%. Now to fix some of the typos in the challenge combo list.

[NoSales]

Why do challenge 30 with golden Tager if you can do a combo?

Totally forgot it could be charged

[NecroTheReaper]

So are all of her A/B confirms fairly short without prior graviton placement and/or heat?

[Urichinan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wc_LvoVjmZs

:3

[Kurushii]

Updated the challenge mode list in the combo thread. I'll fix the damage/heat values for them later tonight. Also awesome job Uri! :3

[Raccoon]

5B 5C 3C 236A 5A 5B 5C 2C 6B 236B 6A 236C

4k in the corner

Also, after a 6B midscreen, cancel into Lighting (22A) ASAP. From here, you can either continue a ground combo, do a dirty dash under, or use 6A, 6C or even a charged 6A gattlinged into 6C to start an air combo. If you just need a quickie, 6B also cancels into 236C. In the corner, I like to do 6B 22C 5C 2C 236B 5C 236C for 3261 off an overhead.

6B is beast.

:3

Edited November 7, 2013 by Raccoon

[mMarikom]

I've never loved a character more. Time to put in some real work.

[NecroTheReaper]

I'm calling it for the night, but you know... pickin up Koko really has some bazaar ReliusxKokonoe s&m scenes in my head xD. I havnt touched any of the new characters really, dabbled with combos with Izayoi offline, but I really enjoy team SCIENCE! Honestly, the way she works feels like Hazama to me. Meh damage off of standard hits then 25-50 heat, BAM, 4-6k damage. C starters aren't included in this btw, 2C leads to like 5k anywhere @.@

[neojammerzx]

Does her trap disappear on block? Does it disappear on hit?

[Urichinan]

3.6k throw combo into chip setup:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuOdt_1YLP4

Edited November 7, 2013 by Urichinan

[Celerity]

3.6k throw combo into chip setup:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wc_LvoVjmZs

Wrong link. I think you mean this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuOdt_1YLP4

[Urichinan]

Wrong link. I think you mean this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuOdt_1YLP4

Yes yes yes, thank you. ;3

Combo from instant overhead j.C RC coming up.

EDIT: Here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gx0dOybTYo8

Edited November 7, 2013 by Urichinan