BlackYakuzu94 Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 Speaking of, what and who are the "qualified ones" anyway? I heard Jin and Tsubaki were among them, but why? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - now Free
Kishido Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 But Terumi himself said he CREATED the Blazblue after all and has his own... Someone even being able to block Ragna's BlazBlue from usage
Zedar90 Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 Speaking of, what and who are the "qualified ones" anyway? I heard Jin and Tsubaki were among them, but why? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - now Free Those who are chosen by the Azure to remain in this world, Now what that really means is unknown. Maybe those who are given the right to use Blazblue(蒼炎の書)?
floatwater Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 "Everyone who isn't evil is a qualified one". That's how I took it.
BlackYakuzu94 Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 Those who are chosen by the Azure to remain in this world, Now what that really means is unknown. Maybe those who are given the right to use Blazblue(蒼炎の書)? So anyone Noel chooses? She is the inheritor of the Azure and it would make sense she'd choose Jin and Tsubaki, two people she cares about. And before anyone says she doesn't care about Makoto, remember she can't use Ars very well.
Luminos564 Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 Those who are chosen by the Azure to remain in this world, Now what that really means is unknown. Maybe those who are given the right to use Blazblue(蒼炎の書)? Wait, "remain in this world"? What happened during the climax of the story? I heard something about people being forcefully turned into seithr. Is that related to it? Man if this is true, BBCP has one massive body-count.
raziel12 Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 will that means bad news for ragna he only has 3 options now 1. become the black beast and flood the world with seithr once again 2. death by tsubaki and jin 3. destroy the azure gremiore and have kokone build you another new arm lol 3 might be the best but hard choice since his arm is helping the evil consume him
Zedar90 Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 Wait, "remain in this world"? What happened during the climax of the story? I heard something about people being forcefully turned into seithr. Is that related to it? Man if this is true, BBCP has one massive body-count. Yeah people is getting seithr sickness even tough there is no seithr. And when they become seithr they get drained to the Embryo made of Take-mikazuchi.
raziel12 Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 (edited) i guess part of it is wat Izanami wanted a world of death just like the azure gremiore drain souls embryo must be kidna like a cauldren sucking seithr and maybe its souls too iidk wat it is but she is creating something powerful on a world wide scale Edited October 30, 2013 by raziel12
Kishido Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 Damn I already can't wait for the next game and if my man Hazama is there
raziel12 Posted October 30, 2013 Posted October 30, 2013 thats gonna be awhile this game still got some loop holes so they might clear that up before doing the final game i wouldn't be surprised they plan some remakes like BBCS that game had too many damn loop holes then this lol
Yusufestacado Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 Yeah, I'm just thinking that they may not easily remove an already playable chracter especially when you notice that, one hazama user in Japan has just won the champion of "最强二人组“
Yusufestacado Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 But still, bad end for both Kazuma & Trinity....I just cannot accept it
mAc Chaos Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 But still, bad end for both Kazuma & Trinity....I just cannot accept it As far as I know all they did was mess things up for other people. Not really expecting much more from them.
BlackYakuzu94 Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 I wonder how they're going to go about localizing all of this.
kosmos badgirl Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 This isn't an option for Rachel anymore. Rachel's magical powers are dwindling. Amane commented that she barely has enough strength to teleport herself let alone a whole bunch of other people. Fair enough, but what about explaining how they got out of the mess?. I have some questions. -What is the purpose of the monolith?. -How come Celica is in the present time?, is she the real deal, a clone, a doppelganger?. I remember Kokonoe looking at her in a tube full of green liquid. -When Rachel send Ragna to the past, she uses the Tsukuyomi unit on him, is that some kind of protection while he travels to the past or she used the Tsukuyomi unit as a tool to send him to the past?. -Also if I remember well, he was sent with his jacket and maybe sword, he comes back with nothing, what's up with that?. -What happen with Kokonoe's nuclear weapons?.
Kibafool Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 Fair enough, but what about explaining how they got out of the mess?. I have some questions. -What is the purpose of the monolith?. -How come Celica is in the present time?, is she the real deal, a clone, a doppelganger?. I remember Kokonoe looking at her in a tube full of green liquid. -When Rachel send Ragna to the past, she uses the Tsukuyomi unit on him, is that some kind of protection while he travels to the past or she used the Tsukuyomi unit as a tool to send him to the past?. -Also if I remember well, he was sent with his jacket and maybe sword, he comes back with nothing, what's up with that?. -What happen with Kokonoe's nuclear weapons?. - :Y -Kokonoe brought her to the future -Used to protect him from the cauldron, which was used to send him to the past -Gave his jacket and sword to Celica, which is how Ragna gets it from Jubei -Still in her basement
Starkaiser Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 (edited) I start from The tournament: They lure out Azrael with Ragna, and when they realize he cant hurt them if they have no will to fight Kokonoe teleports him into a dimensional prison but during it gives Tager 2 seconds to punch Azrael. Ragna tells Rachel that he wont use the Grimoire anymore since it is the power to "steal" and Ragna only wants power to prevent loss. Rachel asks if he isn't running away, and the question about the True Blazblue comes up since both Ragna and Terumi uses imitations. She says that if he is prepared to learn the meaning of the power of that Ragna seeks she will lead him to that answer. Ragna says he is prepared and Rachel says she will lead him to "Zero". Tsubaki goes to the place to pick up Ragna but instead is met by Makoto, Noel and Jin. Makoto first fights Tsubaki to make her tired, Noel then "observe" tsubaki inorder to see the true form of Izayoi and make it real. Jin fights Tsubaki to make her free from Izanami, but during this Tsubaki uses "Immortal Breaker" on Jin and thinks she killed him but Immortal Breaker doesn't work on Jin because of the power of order. Rachel, Noel, Celica and Ragna goes to the gate in Ibukido and sends Ragna to the year 2106. After a Short while Ragna comes back and is a little confused of where and when he is and is in a little panicked state. After Calming down he goes directly to Kokonoe since he is pissed at her since he learned how to activate the Lynchpin. Kagura sends Noel, Ragna and Celica to the place where the Lynchpin is located but before that Kokonoe said that the talk about a bomb was stuck in Ragnas arm was a lie and the device that she pretended was a detonator was actually reading Celicas and Ragnas body in order to create "Noise Canceller". Noise Canceller makes Ragna immune to the Lynchpin and Celica so he can use the Grimoire whenever he wants. Ragna, Noel and Celica arrives to the Lynchpin and is met by Bang. Bang and Ragna fight inorder for Bang to see if he can be safe with giving Rettenjo to Ragna. They than decide to Activate the Lynchpin in preparation but they are interrupted by Nu and Relius. Nu syncronise with Noel and Bang tries to help her but is attacked by Litch. Kagura and Jin who are protecting Homura sends Tsubaki and Makoto to aid at the lynchpin and right after that is visited by Izanami and Phantom. Kagura is wounded and Izanami declares Homura the new imperator since Kagura wanted Homura to have that title. Nu tries to attack Celica but Minerva comes and protect her. Nu then heads off to the monolith in order to summon Amaterasu. Ragna and the rest start to feel that the place have been filled with seithr and Relius says he have opened every single gate in the world. Nu then arrives where Hazama is and summons Amaterasu. Ragna attacks Relius but is blocked by Carl. Tsubaki and Makoto arrives to the lynchpin and Ragna, Noel and Celica heads of to where Amaterasu is. Izanami makes Take-mikazuchi crash down from space into the lake. Nu then heads into the Take-mikazuchi and Take-mikazuchi fires against Amaterasu but Rachel protects it with Tsukiyomi. Izanami says to take-mikazuchi it can fire how much it wants to since the air is filled with seithr. Jubei attacks Izanami but phantom blocks the attack. Izanami release the cloak around phantom and Jubei and Nine fights off screen. Ragna and Noel meets up with Jin and heads toward Take-mikazuchi to fight it until the Lynchpin is activated. They meet Hakumen and asks him to destroy the bottom of the monolith and he accepts since Celica asked him to do it. Ragna, Jin and Noel Fights Take-mikazuchi. Hakumen meets Terumis Doppelgänger and fights him, Trinity attacks Hazama and Hakumen uses Time Killer on Terumi. Hazama attack Trinity and falls into the lake(according to the Library). Hakumen tries to destroy the bottom of the monolith but fails due to the damage Terumi gave him. Jin arrives there and Hakumen and Jin both uses Yukikaze at the same time and destroys the monoliths bottom. Valkenhayn comes and attacks Relius and gives Bang time to get on the top of the Lynchpin and Rachel teleports it to in the air above the monolith. Bang Punches in Rettenjo into the Lynchpin and Activates it. Ragna activates Blazblue and fights against Take-mikazuchi. After the fight Ragna jumps in to the core and Celica follows him. He finds Nu and fight her and bring her back with him. Relius has lost all his energy and Valkenhayn isabout to kill him when Carl defends him and says to Litch to retreat. Ragna tells Celica to heal Nu. Izanami appears and Ragna tries to attack her but nu stabs him in the back. Hakumen tries to use Time Killer on Izanami but it is ineffective. Phantom comes and teleports away Hakumen. Izanami says the words: awaken, Best. Ragna goes berserk and tells Noel and Jin to take Celica away because he will kill theme. Noel goes Mu and together with Jin fights Ragna. Izanami makes Take-mikazuchi into an orb surrounding master unit and Rachel puts tsukiyomi on Master Unit. It cuts to Kagura talking about the situation of the world and Tsubaki visiting bedridden Noel and Jin. Rachel tells Tsubaki that tsubaki or Jin must kill ragna before he dies and if they are unable Tsubaki must use Immortal breaker on Rachel. i just clear the story today, and have some question : 1. why there are both terumi and hazama at the same time? did relius produce it? but then what about soul? if he can produce as many as he want, then probably next game will have hazama back again with new body just like Nu. 2. Is there any way to see the scene that was cut off during the climax? 3. I can't remember when and why that Ragna has black beast inside his hand? I always thought that black beast only summon if he fuse with Nu. 4. In the big plan, it seem they never mention part about how to kill the Izamnami (empire) ? 5. What does Racheal mean that she has to be killed by tsubaki? She mention some link between her and ragna? 6. So Izayou is very weak? it seem her fight ability is only equal to that of Licht or Carl, even though Carl is always weakest in story comparable to Bang. 7. is Licht stupid or what? Relius already said that he will kill whole world and remake it into world of dolls, and that isn't what Licht want at all. it mean her husband won't recover anyway, since all will be died. 8. This feel little annoying since CS already. butthis phantom character is made too OP. Whenever he come, no matter how many people you have, it is always a whole map gravity seed and then all enemy escape. Why not they try to have any countermeasure already? so many chance they could kill off Hazama during this Arc, but they just let him warp with Phantom. Also, this make Nine strongest of the six? even Jubei + Trinity seem no match for her on the six Hero Arc. and the CP Arc show that Jubei lose 1:1 fight. (despite in the old time Arc, I see Jubei fight equally with Nine) 9. Where did Azreal gain his power from? it seem to be strongest character here even with his limiter on it. but then again, a character this strong why get captured and put into limiter like that since the beginning, who has enough power to capture him? It seem he is even stronger than Hakumen. Edited October 31, 2013 by Starkaiser
kosmos badgirl Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 (edited) - :Y -Kokonoe brought her to the future -Used to protect him from the cauldron, which was used to send him to the past -Gave his jacket and sword to Celica, which is how Ragna gets it from Jubei -Still in her basement -But why was she in a tube with green liquid?. There is any explanation about why Kokonoe can do something like that ( brought her to the future)?. -But if he gives the jacket and sword to Celica, how come he has the jacket and sword again after he comes back from the past?, I mean, he comes with nothing, but in the next episodes he wears the jacket/sword again. thanks for the answers. Edited October 31, 2013 by kosmos badgirl
BlackYakuzu94 Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 I'm going to say its a time loop, Ragna left his coat and sword in the past, so naturally he'd go pick them from the remains of the Church I assume, since they would technically still there.....I think.
Yusufestacado Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 You are right to some extent...but the purpose of Hazama/Terumi may still be undercovered, once we get to know his motivation can we finally decide him to be a good guy or an evil one.
Zedar90 Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 Fair enough, but what about explaining how they got out of the mess?. I have some questions. -What is the purpose of the monolith?. -How come Celica is in the present time?, is she the real deal, a clone, a doppelganger?. I remember Kokonoe looking at her in a tube full of green liquid. -When Rachel send Ragna to the past, she uses the Tsukuyomi unit on him, is that some kind of protection while he travels to the past or she used the Tsukuyomi unit as a tool to send him to the past?. -Also if I remember well, he was sent with his jacket and maybe sword, he comes back with nothing, what's up with that?. -What happen with Kokonoe's nuclear weapons?. Monolith is needed to open the Nemesis Horizon, Dont remember the reason tough. Celica touched the gate in Ishana in a chapter in PhaseShift 4 where she was copied and then picked up by Kokonoe. Ragna is going through the boundary, he needs protection, that is why Rachel put tsukiyomi on him. I don't know, I am as confused about that myself. Still in storage? Don't remember them being used, but they were mentioed. i just clear the story today, and have some question : 1. why there are both terumi and hazama at the same time? did relius produce it? but then what about soul? if he can produce as many as he want, then probably next game will have hazama back again with new body just like Nu. 2. Is there any way to see the scene that was cut off during the climax? 3. I can't remember when and why that Ragna has black beast inside his hand? I always thought that black beast only summon if he fuse with Nu. 4. In the big plan, it seem they never mention part about how to kill the Izamnami (empire) ? 5. What does Racheal mean that she has to be killed by tsubaki? She mention some link between her and ragna? 6. So Izayou is very weak? it seem her fight ability is only equal to that of Licht or Carl, even though Carl is always weakest in story comparable to Bang. 7. is Licht stupid or what? Relius already said that he will kill whole world and remake it into world of dolls, and that isn't what Licht want at all. it mean her husband won't recover anyway, since all will be died. 8. This feel little annoying since CS already. butthis phantom character is made too OP. Whenever he come, no matter how many people you have, it is always a whole map gravity seed and then all enemy escape. Why not they try to have any countermeasure already? so many chance they could kill off Hazama during this Arc, but they just let him warp with Phantom. Also, this make Nine strongest of the six? even Jubei + Trinity seem no match for her on the six Hero Arc. and the CP Arc show that Jubei lose 1:1 fight. (despite in the old time Arc, I see Jubei fight equally with Nine) 9. Where did Azreal gain his power from? it seem to be strongest character here even with his limiter on it. but then again, a character this strong why get captured and put into limiter like that since the beginning, who has enough power to capture him? It seem he is even stronger than Hakumen. 2. No, not as far as I know. 3. The Grimoire that is his right hand are the remains of the black beast, no the heart(Nu) though since Terumi carried her away after the black beasts defeat. 4. It's unknown how to "kill" Izanami since she is death her self materialized. 5. The "Evil" will disappear if Rachel dies. Why? Never explained. 7. What Relius means by dolls might not be the same way we thinks of doll. Think of it like this, Litchi have given up on saving Roy and think the only way to save him is to restart the world, and is helping Relius since he knows how. 8. Phantom can use magic, true Magic, one of the most powerful things in Blazblue universe, so off course she is overpowered. 9. Unknown, never said. Also somethings about Terumi and Kazuma told in the phaseshift series: Kazuma was made as spare body for Terumi and put in Ishana since it is the safest place in the world. Terumis was able to fuse with Kazuma but was captured in the end by Valkenhayn. Nine, after Clavis death, needed help from Terumi so she released him from where he was held. But, in order to be sure it would be safe she put Mind eater spell on him. Terumi though before hit by the spell separated his mind from Kzauma so only Terumi was effected by it, meaning Nine had full control over Terumi, but, Kazuma could do whatever he wanted. Nine found Take-mikazuchi and started to revive it but when she realized what it really was she ordered it to be destroyed but Eight and Seven continued to work on it behind Nine's back with help from Kazuma. During the last part of the war Kazuma tricked Trinity to remove Mind eater from Terumi. But when the Mindeater was removed some after effect made it so that Kazum and Terumi couldn't completely fuse again. Also in the end when Terumi killed Nine he was surprised by her question and thought he gave to little credit. She asked why Terumi tries to interfere with the Master Unit and why he made Relius and Shoichiro summon the Black Beast.
kosmos badgirl Posted October 31, 2013 Posted October 31, 2013 Celica touched the gate in Ishana in a chapter in PhaseShift 4 where she was copied and then picked up by Kokonoe. Oh so that's what happen, it make more sense now. Thanks
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