Chrono Phantasma Story Discussion [fun tentatively allowed again]

[raziel12]

jealous or not he whent too far he need to realize that terumi is not the only one to blame for his brother suffering he played a big part also

well we know cecila and noel won't agree to killing ragna idk about jin and tsubaki and no doubt hakumen going hunting for him lol

[TheYukianesa-01]

If it hasn't been posted before, these are all the gag reels;

Jin: Return to the Island of Brotherly Violence

Bang: Tournament of Manliness

Plat: Trinity and Trinity

Relius: Father Relius

Tager: Golden Tager XX

Ragna: The Spectacles of Eros 2

Makoto: Furry Adventures - Makoto's Tail

[VermilionBird]

Play the game, because CS has a lot of different things going on and any summary is just going to be lacking in details as well.

BB wiki has a lot of made up stuff and fanon added to it. Take everything with a grain of salt unless it includes citations from the games or supplementary material.

edit: Wow, screw you autocorrect.

Umm... Dude? We try really hard but we aren't exactly perfect. We don't have a lot of made up stuff. Its stuff we get from Dustloop and, I will admit, some of it is a little outdated.

Taking on board the citations, we are going to add them. Its mainly the first ever pages of the Wiki that don't have a lot of references (i.e. Noel, Ragna, etc. etc.).

But please, the only fanon you will find is from inaccurate editors (which I promise you, we try to root out).

Besides, all we ever get is criticism instead of help...

[BlackYakuzu94]

Fan wikis tend to do that.

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[BlackYakuzu94]

BTW is there something about Jin's silly "hate for Saiya, just because he is jealous"

I never could take it seriously to be honest that a small child wanted to kill his sister cuz of being jealous... And this was before Yuikanesa

Pretty sure it was just petty sibling jealousy, Yukianesa just added murderous intent to it. At this point, he's mostly over it. Before, he tried to kill Noel on sight, now he just ignores her or call her trash.

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[VermilionBird]

Fan wikis tend to do that.

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Wut? ;-;

[Chaoschao222]

Enough of the wiki talk, go there if you want, stay away if you want, either way, the current discussion is offtopic.

[Dawn of Musou]

Has the rivalry/hatred between Relius and Valkenhayn been explained? It's something that's been shown and hinted at since Continuum Shift but never truly elaborated upon.

Requoting this cause I'm curious about it and it was never answered.

[HoudiniJr100]

If it hasn't been posted before, these are all the gag reels;

Jin: Return to the Island of Brotherly Violence

Bang: Tournament of Manliness

Plat: Trinity and Trinity

Relius: Father Relius

Tager: Golden Tager XX

Ragna: The Spectacles of Eros 2

Makoto: Furry Adventures - Makoto's Tail

there was also bullet's cosplay segment, Really loved bvang's manly tournament and relius the good father gag reels. P:

[Luminos564]

So, Izanami was actually willing to let Ragna join her side (or at least, attempted to coerce him into it), even going so far as to offer him Terumi's head in exchange. Does she elaborate more on why she made him the offer or was it just something she did to piss him off further? I know she refers to him as "nii-sama" like Saya does in order to taunt him for instance.

Edited November 2, 2013 by Luminos564

[heavymetalmixer]

So, Izanami was actually willing to let Ragna join her side (or at least, attempted to coerce him into it), even going so far as to offer him Terumi's head in exchange. Does she elaborate more on why she made him the offer or was it just something she did to piss him off further? I know she refers to him as "nii-sama" like Saya does in order to taunt him for instance.

Izanami has partly the Saya's feelings for Ragna, so it wouldn't be weird for her to say "Nii-sama, come to the dark side!"

[BlackYakuzu94]

That, or she's fucking with his head. Then again, she only does it to Ragna and not Jin.

Also, anyone else loved how its the first time Ragna, Jin, and Noel actually teamed up....it felt like a family reunion.

[TPPR10]

So I just wtched the scene where Noel and Makoto meet Izayoi after she gets saved... Dear lord, my ears.

[Yusufestacado]

Well, if I read it correctly, Jubei used his Sekkigan which transformed Terumi into the ghost looking body which Hakumen grabbed while Jubei jumped to the contoll room to close the gate so that Hakumen and Terumi got stuck. So what happened with Kazuma(the body) I have no idea.

What happened with Hazama is unknown really, he seemed really hurt after Terumi got struck by Time Killer, but at the same time, why could Hazama still move after Terumi got his time killed? Shouldn't he be gone already.

Thanks again for your clear answers:-)

So when you say "transformed" into his ghost form is that literal or was he just removed from Kazuma's body? And so Kazuma's body was just left behind and has no other mention...and now Terumi has been struck by Time Killer, presumably has succumbed to its effects, and Hazama is implied to have gone down with him. Thanks for clearing that up and answering all my questions so far, I'm so sorry for asking so many ;;

Well friend, you have really asked so many questions I did want to ask, thanks:-)

[Shinhwa]

At the epilogue, did Nu stab Ragna out of no reason or did Izanami control her to do it?

[BlackYakuzu94]

At the epilogue, did Nu stab Ragna out of no reason or did Izanami control her to do it?

She seemed to be doing it of her own accord considering she was in Yandere mode.

[Master Of Chaos]

Ungrateful bitch, after everything Ragna did for you.

Also no one wants to get inside Jin's head. It probably isn't a nice place to be. Isn't Jin resistant to Izanami's mind control due to the Power of Order or something?

[Shinhwa]

She seemed to be doing it of her own accord considering she was in Yandere mode.

Why the fuck does Arc System have to make her go through all of this...? Is it because of the re-tuning that Terumi did or what the fuck seriously. And here I thought she will finally get a good end till that happened along with Izanami.

I mean come on, just let Ragna love her (without violence) for god's sake, without having her die/sacrificing herself, fusing with something else.

Ragna was being nice to her then seriously what the hell...

I want to cry for having my expectations betrayed Q_________Q

If I take into account what happened in CS for Nu when she was in Lambda-11, is it just that the tempering/programming that's done to her by Terumi is making her do these tragic and cruel things that her true feelings (mainly her soul) doesn't actually want to do?

[BlackYakuzu94]

You guys are mad at Nu being....well, Nu? She's made it perfectly clear that she hates everything that isn't Ragna and is violently obsessed with him. It really shouldn't come as a surprise that the first thing she does is attack Ragna the first chance she gets.

[Shinhwa]

You guys are mad at Nu being....well, Nu? She's made it perfectly clear that she hates everything that isn't Ragna and is violently obsessed with him. It really shouldn't come as a surprise that the first thing she does is attack Ragna the first chance she gets.

After what she did while she in was in Lambda-11's body, I can't really 100% agree that her attacking Ragna is the first choice she actually really wants to goes for, and that something is pretty much forcing her to take such actions (Maybe it's really her programming)

I want to know what happened to her when she resisted Terumi's control @__@;

[Ehecatl]

Why the fuck does Arc System have to make her go through all of this...? Is it because of the re-tuning that Terumi did or what the fuck seriously. And here I thought she will finally get a good end till that happened along with Izanami.

I mean come on, just let Ragna love her (without violence) for god's sake, without having her die/sacrificing herself, fusing with something else.

Ragna was being nice to her then seriously what the hell...

I want to cry for having my expectations betrayed Q_________Q

If I take into account what happened in CS for Nu when she was in Lambda-11, is it just that the tempering/programming that's done to her by Terumi is making her do these tragic and cruel things that her true feelings (mainly her soul) doesn't actually want to do?

It's got nothing to do with that. Her desire to kill Ragna and join with him comes from the fact that she has the other half of a Blazblue. Lambda had no Blazblue, so she wasn't going to be all 'I love you! I want to stab you!' like v-13. Think of the azure grimoire as yukianesa. Ragna also is tempted to destroy everything because of his Blazblue. It's just he's got a lot of will-power, a reason to hope for more than just death, and has been trained. Nu not so much. Her first waking moments are of torture and pain by scientist and some confused warm memories of Ragna. So when she wakes up with a grimoire attached to her that is telling her to kill everything and using her feelings toward Ragna to encourage joining with his Blazblue, her reaction is understandable. She's never known what is to have a stable mind to begin with so of course she's insane.

[Shinhwa]

It's got nothing to do with that. Her desire to kill Ragna and join with him comes from the fact that she has the other half of a Blazblue. Lambda had no Blazblue, so she wasn't going to be all 'I love you! I want to stab you!' like v-13. Think of the azure grimoire as yukianesa. Ragna also is tempted to destroy everything because of his Blazblue. It's just he's got a lot of will-power, a reason to hope for more than just death, and has been trained. Nu not so much. Her first waking moments are of torture and pain by scientist and some confused warm memories of Ragna. So when she wakes up with a grimoire attached to her that is telling her to kill everything and using her feelings toward Ragna to encourage joining with his Blazblue, her reaction is understandable. She's never known what is to have a stable mind to begin with so of course she's insane.

So what, they just gotta get rid of the evil residing in the Blazblue or something?

And goddamn it this is why I hate how Nu's getting all the sad and tragic routes..

[Shinhwa]

Another question. After Nu appeared in front of Ragna, what did he say about her? Are stuff from CS involved? (Like how she saved him from death).

Also was Nu pretty pissed that she was being controlled by Terumi or what? (I mean come on, he is the one who killed her in CS, even if she was in another body)

Oh, and why were Noel and Nu synchronized again? I know the answer is on the thread but having a hard time finding it again =w=;;

Edited November 2, 2013 by Shinhwa

[Zedar90]

1 & 2 nothing about that.

She synchronized with Noel in order to be able to summon Amaterasu from Nemesis Horizon.

[Shinhwa]

Is it just me or Nu's personality seemed to have gotten worse compared to CT...?