Chrono Phantasma Speculations/Theories [rules updated 10/14]

[churchblue]

Some people say that characters of XBLAZE may cross into Blazblue storyline. I wonder which character would be good to induct in the story.

[Luminos564]

Really, would Life Link work in this kind of scenario or does Life Link not work for life span/soul related deaths or something...?

Truth of the matter, the Life Link is really not explained all that well despite being connected to one of the central characters. Although I doubt that it could negate Ragna's "natural death" for instance. If you recall, despite having a Life Link too, Hazama needed some time to recover after Relius tore him up with Ignis. Now imagine what happens when Ragna dies from his natural death like Rachel mentioned, keeping that "evil" he has locked within in mind. Suddenly you got a real powerful monster that is potentially immortal.

[Zedar90]

Think of Life-Link like this, when an "Observation Target" dies a "value" inside of them says "dead" and the system reads it and thus that "Target" stays dead. But when one have a life-link and if one have "Dead" and the other have "Alive" then system reads them as both "alive". Both "Targets" must have the value of "dead" for them to stay dead.

[heavymetalmixer]

I am truly worried about Ragna's future as much as Nu's future as it was stated that his future of his end has been set and decided after he had gone back to the past, and he doesn't have much life span left. Really, would Life Link work in this kind of scenario or does Life Link not work for life span/soul related deaths or something...?

Also, you know how in XBLAZE, Es stands for Embryo Storage? I wonder if that's the same case for Ragna also since he possesses the Es marking in his body.

Maybe Embryo Storage is like that Ragna could be the body of the Black Beast, so in XBLAZE who's the heart?

[Shinhwa]

Maybe Embryo Storage is like that Ragna could be the body of the Black Beast, so in XBLAZE who's the heart?

Well Izanami did say the Embryo was lost actually.

[Zedar90]

Well Izanami did say the Embryo was lost actually.

That was Terumi who said it.

What's known about Embryo from Xblaze is: It is the Embryo of Azure. It's an enemy of the world. It possesses the power of god, Phenomenon Intervention. It has the power to open the Gate of Sheol. It can be Transferred to another Embryo Storage (Manifest Boundary Interface Prime Field Device). It gives the Embryo Storage Azure Eyes. The Scene when it is Transferred is called Succession of the Azure.

[mAc Chaos]

So Mu was the embryo?

[Zedar90]

So Mu was the embryo?

She could had the Embryo, yes. It likely that Terumi came with data about the Embryo Storage and Legecy Weapon Kusanagi and told Relius to combine them. Maybe Terumi wanted Relius to create something that could "steal" the Embryo from Es inside the boundary.

Embryo: A power.

Code: Embryo: The person that the power was born from.

Edited December 4, 2013 by Zedar90

[Shinhwa]

Please don't tell me next game is likely going to be some kind of crossover between XBlaze and Blazblue =w=;; Although the only character from XBlaze that might appear would be Es who had become Master Unit Amaterasu.

[Toxin45]

Please don't tell me next game is likely going to be some kind of crossover between XBlaze and Blazblue =w=;; Although the only character from XBlaze that might appear would be Es who had become Master Unit Amaterasu.

Perhaps that Es is not her real name and that imply that she is someone important

[Shinhwa]

Perhaps that Es is not her real name and that imply that she is someone important

We don't even know any of her other names from XBlaze except her japanese last name that she made up when she transferred to Touya's school. She always went by the name Es (Embryo Storage). And yes she was the heroine of XBlaze but after she got in contact with the Master Unit, she learned the truth of the world (Fullmetal Alchemist much?), she learned that it was too dangerous for the world that she stay in the world, which forced her to erase memories from people about her and she sealed herself inside the Boundary.

[Toxin45]

We don't even know any of her other names from XBlaze except her japanese last name that she made up when she transferred to Touya's school. She always went by the name Es (Embryo Storage). And yes she was the heroine of XBlaze but after she got in contact with the Master Unit, she learned the truth of the world (Fullmetal Alchemist much?), she learned that it was too dangerous for the world that she stay in the world, which forced her to erase memories from people about her and she sealed herself inside the Boundary.

Maybe Rachel she could have maid up all those stats about herself as Es or have amnesia by Soichiro who could have become Yuki Terumi.

[Shinhwa]

Rachel I doubt it....

[Toxin45]

Also that Life-Link Of Noel and Hazama means only Hazama the body not the spirit Terumi that's inhabiting him.

So Killing Terumi in a different body costed Hazama the spirit inside him

but even after his defeated he pretty much lost all the stuff that maid him an invincible villain along with Relius and Izanami abandons them giving them the worst death and she has the justification of being a more invincible villain than the two combined and she'll pretty much being the final boss of the final game in her true form.

[Shinhwa]

You know, considering they do have to use Dimensional Influence to save the right now, I won't be surprised if there is one more time loop except in a good way where everyone remembers everything.

[Shinhwa]

Oh, misread what you said. Yeah, if the lynchpin is activated Hazama is useless, but there is no way that the Lynchpin will work over the entire world and that's why they put it in the boundary to prevent more seithr to leak into the world. Wasn't the cauldron in Ibukido the main one, i.e. all other cauldrons was connected to it?

If there is some effect from the lynch pin in the real world it would at best be around the area of Ibukido.

Also, wasn't it that Ragna would have a chance to "kill" Yuuki Terumi after that they made "Saya" be "annihilated" by the lynchpin?

That's the weird thing. Rachel said "after" they annihilate Izanami's vessel, aka Saya (except only Saya as a vessel will die and Izanami's existence itself won't die =3=), then Terumi would be able to be defeated. But then Kokonoe just like rounded up them whole without saying the order (Pretty much the whole team was rounded up lol). More like why does it matter that if Izanami is defeated then Terumi can be defeated more easily "after"? Is she his observer or something? Also if that was the case, then what was up with the Six Heroes' plan to bring out Terumi from Hazama? I guess it was like a double plan?

Edited December 5, 2013 by Shinhwa

[Zedar90]

That's the weird thing. Rachel said "after" they annihilate Izanami's vessel, aka Saya (except only Saya as a vessel will die and Izanami's existence itself won't die =3=), then Terumi would be able to be defeated. But then Kokonoe just like rounded up them whole without saying the order. More like why does it matter that if Izanami is defeated then Terumi can be defeated more easily "after"? Is she his observer or something? Also if that was the case, then what was up with the Six Heroes' plan to bring out Terumi from Hazama? I guess it was like a double plan?

Isn't "Saya" Terumi's observer, Takamagahara-System said that it would be stupid to get rid of them since they are his observer unless he had awaken "her". Maybe there must be a body who can observe since Izanami needs a vessel.

And I would guess killing Terumi's remaining "time" has higher priority then being "Observed".

Edit: Oh right, in Xblaze Hinata couldn't use Phenomenon Intervention after she lost her body so I would think having a "body" is important.

Edited December 5, 2013 by Zedar90

[Shinhwa]

So much questions, not many answers within the game TwT

[Zedar90]

So much questions, not many answers within the game TwT

Well, Story Maniacs will soon be released (around the end of the month, right?). It could have some answers. Personally I look forward to the updated time line and to see if there is some Xblaze info hidden there.

[Shinhwa]

Well, Story Maniacs will soon be released (around the end of the month, right?). It could have some answers. Personally I look forward to the updated time line and to see if there is some Xblaze info hidden there.

I never read that before. It was only recent that I got more into Blazblue than before. @_@ (Chronophantasma hyped me up more compared to when I tried playing Continuum Shift and Calamity Trigger with my boyfriend)

I hope that it has the answer to this question:

What happened to Nu after she backstabbed Ragna?

This is the most question I want to know =A=

After she backstabbed him, she just like moved "right ===>" and disappeared ._.

More like I wonder if what Mori said back in CS will seriously come true for the next game. I mean he did say he is planning to kick Ragna out of the main protagonist spot (yet in Chronophantasma, he had Amane talk about Ragna being like the center of the stage and he has a really great light and Ragna did get a lot of attention and allies during the game).

I mean sure Mori may have changed his mind afterwards in the planning stage, but still not too sure. I just think it would be best if Ragna stays protagonist till the end.

Actually I wonder why Izanami has control over the Beast inside Ragna in the first place... o_o;

Edited December 5, 2013 by Shinhwa

[Master Of Chaos]

I mean he did say he is planning to kick Ragna out of the main protagonist spot

Where was this at?

[Shinhwa]

Where was this at?

I think it was in the CS Material book.

Practically saying, he was planning on kicking Ragna out of his main character spot in CP, but he did not, so I was wondering if he just gave up that idea or he delayed it :s

Truthfully as I said, I don't want Mori kicking him out of the main character spot = =;;

I mean come on, if he was going to kick him out, then why give him so much development? (Although he got forcibly corrupt by Izanami...)

Edited December 5, 2013 by Shinhwa

[Toxin45]

I never read that before. It was only recent that I got more into Blazblue than before. @_@ (Chronophantasma hyped me up more compared to when I tried playing Continuum Shift and Calamity Trigger with my boyfriend)

I hope that it has the answer to this question:

What happened to Nu after she backstabbed Ragna?

This is the most question I want to know =A=

After she backstabbed him, she just like moved "right ===>" and disappeared ._.

More like I wonder if what Mori said back in CS will seriously come true for the next game. I mean he did say he is planning to kick Ragna out of the main protagonist spot (yet in Chronophantasma, he had Amane talk about Ragna being like the center of the stage and he has a really great light and Ragna did get a lot of attention and allies during the game).

I mean sure Mori may have changed his mind afterwards in the planning stage, but still not too sure. I just think it would be best if Ragna stays protagonist till the end.

Actually I wonder why Izanami has control over the Beast inside Ragna in the first place... o_o;

She could be the priestess of the Azure I mean she did look like Imperator Librarius Izanami and Could have been possessing mei's ancestor.I mean she could have been pulling Sechs's strings as the crystal inside and planned on possessing Mei herself

[Toxin45]

Also Noel being Saya or at least parts of her soul escaped from her Original body and onto Mu's.

[Shinhwa]

You know, as I said in the story discussion thread, right now it is too obvious that Saya's soul like separated from her original body. Like she is still there, in Izanami's body, but it seems that some part of her really did escape into Noel/Mu when she was created. Otherwise the behavior she made in CP and how some of the characters treat her wouldn't make sense. Kagura definitely knows something about Noel.

Inb4 Noel, Nu and Saya's original body has to merge to re-create the full Saya = =;;