StylisH Posted July 3, 2014 Posted July 3, 2014 People have actually been saying that Carl is pretty good. Carl IS good, but not S tier good. He still has a fair share of weak points.
bakahyl Posted July 3, 2014 Posted July 3, 2014 So basically that list is also lumping the actual lower tiers together with everyone that is not too overpowering strong or solid. Like Mu, Ragna and Jiin are apparently just as bad as Makoto and Tager
Dreize Posted July 3, 2014 Posted July 3, 2014 Stumbled upon this one a little while back. I think it's safe to say that Dora does not like Carl.  http://www.mmcafe.com/tiermaker/bbcp/index_customize.html?tc=ya0-trjjczlaczg7aig86mhyf890cxg88easf6cjf7f91rcjajeaf7hyahg6h1e8cyg1czee8dchcyg7f9ee6maqcyeaajjpf8hsczechuf74a00g0-bkf-naBE/TSB/Dora-tiTier%20Chart%20for%20BBCP-ct999999-c1FFFFFF-c2EEEEEE-tvFF7101-thDD3C3C-d1%E3%80%80top%20tier-x110-d2low%20tier-x210-d3-x310-d4-x47  Kinda curious to see what other top Japanese BB players think about the tiers.Â
TD Posted July 3, 2014 Posted July 3, 2014 Carl is that good. Doll just does not die. The absolute lowest he will be right now is a+. He rose because most others fell, but his small buffs were also important ones. That said, there are indeed several things... questionable with this list. I don't see why litchi and rachel aren't S because they both are still really, really good- though it does appear that rachel is becoming plenty easier to block now, and litchi has more situational damage and corner carry than before, outside the corner. Hakumen should DEFINITELY still be A with that damage alone. The meter nerf hurts him though, perhaps a lot more than expected. Agreed that makoto has not changed much at all and should still be in her own tier. Should izayoi move up? Shimotsuki makes her look legit. Don't know about mu. And what happened to tager , wasn't he A tier? Jin? Why did he go down??
Master Of Chaos Posted July 3, 2014 Posted July 3, 2014 I question any tier list that has Kagura being worse then Makoto. Or anyone aside from Amane being lower then Makoto.
RifleAvenger Posted July 3, 2014 Posted July 3, 2014 Jin? Why did he go down??Universal jump-in nerf took some reward off of the J.C's (which in ice resets are actually effective mix up options), and 6A essentially needs 50 meter now to not be a giant risk. It's -6 on block (so pretty much everyone can jab punish) and only +1 on normal hit now (so even it lands, characters with fast jabs can mash on him).I don't think it's as bad as that list shows though.
Myoro Posted July 3, 2014 Posted July 3, 2014 And maybe it's because Relius has some of the simpler answers to some of Carl's stuff, maybe it's because I play the match-up in an unorthodox way, but to me, he's no S tier. Â Relius, Mu, and Tao being as bad as Bullet, Tager, and Makoto is the funniest joke I think I've ever heard Arcadia tier list. Â I guess I'm a low tier hero now guyz! All the characters I play are B and below! Aren't you all exited for me?
StylisH Posted July 3, 2014 Posted July 3, 2014 I knew someone was missing from S tier. Tao not being there is a joke.
TagerTime Posted July 3, 2014 Posted July 3, 2014 Stumbled upon this one a little while back. I think it's safe to say that Dora does not like Carl.  http://www.mmcafe.com/tiermaker/bbcp/index_customize.html?tc=ya0-trjjczlaczg7aig86mhyf890cxg88easf6cjf7f91rcjajeaf7hyahg6h1e8cyg1czee8dchcyg7f9ee6maqcyeaajjpf8hsczechuf74a00g0-bkf-naBE/TSB/Dora-tiTier%20Chart%20for%20BBCP-ct999999-c1FFFFFF-c2EEEEEE-tvFF7101-thDD3C3C-d1%E3%80%80top%20tier-x110-d2low%20tier-x210-d3-x310-d4-x47  Kinda curious to see what other top Japanese BB players think about the tiers.  I like this one. Doras tier list is way better than the new Arcadia list   Relius, Mu, and Tao being as bad as Bullet, Tager, and Makoto is the funniest joke I think I've ever heard Arcadia tier list.  I knew someone was missing from S tier. Tao not being there is a joke.  According to Doras tier list Tager is now better than Tao.
Soniti Posted July 3, 2014 Posted July 3, 2014 I like this one. Doras tier list is way better than the new Arcadia list   According to Doras tier list Tager is now better than Tao. Dora specifically stated that he did not rate Tao when he made that list because all of the Tao players except ESP switched to KokonoeÂ
SoWL Posted July 3, 2014 Posted July 3, 2014 >Taokaka on the same tier as Bullet You say that as if Bullet is the worst character in the game, and that makes me die a little inside.
StylisH Posted July 3, 2014 Posted July 3, 2014 She isn't the worst, but she damn sure isn't the best. Makoto fans would be devastated if she was replaced in squirrel tier.
Errol Posted July 3, 2014 Posted July 3, 2014 A -> B A -> C kagura is worse than tager kagura is bad because of mobility kagura is worse than tager because of mobility
StylisH Posted July 3, 2014 Posted July 3, 2014 When yout character is considered worse than Tager and mobility is a factor, that's pretty bad.
StylisH Posted July 4, 2014 Posted July 4, 2014 Also, since Tao is now considered B tier (my ass) I can finally play with the only other characer I fully feel comfortabe with, without being a tier whore.
swordsman09 Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 Coming from Anime Expo, they're making an iPhone trading card game called Blazblue Battle Cards. I don't know how late I am on this is I am. Sent from my C5170 using Tapatalk
NeoStrayCat Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 Coming from Anime Expo, they're making an iPhone trading card game called Blazblue Battle Cards. I don't know how late I am on this is I am. Sent from my C5170 using Tapatalk Kinda late, thought there was gonna be a demo of it, but nope, just the same trailer. >_>
Verimeloni Posted July 5, 2014 Posted July 5, 2014 I marvel at the joyful energy that populates this thread whenever a new tier list is published. I wish there was some explanation to accompany the changes, or was it just that a Carl-god bodied all Litchi-players at Arcadia? Dora's list on the other hand is an interesting one. I wonder how is Terumi better than Tao? His mixup consists of jump canceling 5C and grabbing.
White Man Posted July 6, 2014 Posted July 6, 2014 I marvel at the joyful energy that populates this thread whenever a new tier list is published. I wish there was some explanation to accompany the changes, or was it just that a Carl-god bodied all Litchi-players at Arcadia?  Tier lists that don't come with any data to back them up are utterly useless for anything except jokes. Lists that get put together after specific events are the worst because they tend to be based on emotional reactions to unique performances. All it takes is one or two people having an unusually good/bad day at the arcade and suddenly their characters jump/drop two tiers. It's so stupid.
D.R.F. Posted July 6, 2014 Posted July 6, 2014 Tier lists that don't come with any data to back them up are utterly useless for anything except jokes. Lists that get put together after specific events are the worst because they tend to be based on emotional reactions to unique performances. All it takes is one or two people having an unusually good/bad day at the arcade and suddenly their characters jump/drop two tiers. It's so stupid. Reminds me of when people thought carl was shit because a small played base. Like why was he ever bad? Because no one played him??? Horrible reason
NecroTheReaper Posted July 6, 2014 Posted July 6, 2014 The "hes bad because I never have to play as him" means you're spoiled and are gonna cry yourself to sleep for a week when you get UB'd to death or eat 5 volante mixups.
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