[CP] Ragna Gameplay Discussion

[-Seo]

madao>6c(2)>tk scythe>5b worked

Damn, 22c into 6C? Sounds cool. Liking the use of tk scythe there too.

[Gramas]

overdrive is essentially x-factor

well no,you have to chose :overdrive for combos or defensive burst

btw no dash cancel on 5D and 6C is a big nerf,but I think the game is getting an overall damage nerf(just my speculation)

[Gramas]

OH MY.........the new deathspike?

http://i.imgur.com/llJz4.jpg

[WolfCrimson]

LOL what the hell is the range on that thing? Might be the A+B trigger crush version.

[Gramas]

Yes it should be that

The trailer show the usual version..or maybe is an ex deathspike?we need a translate

Edited August 6, 2012 by Gramas

[Fluck]

I'm quite sure it's the Trigger Crush version, the text around that pic is about Trigger Crush.

[felipebwk]

jbbs

apparently 6b>6a/5d and 6a>5d gatlings work

madao>6c(2)>tk scythe>5b worked

cid punch can be picked up by 5a

very good, and 6a>5D look easy way to bouce and combo.

Tk "scythe", new move?

Edited August 6, 2012 by felipebwk

[Dont_Explain]

5D doesnt have the dash cancel anymore so it won't be the usual combo.

[felipebwk]

ya mean no dash cancel for 5D(1) > (no dash cancel), or 5D(1hit/2hit)> no dash cancel.

5D(1hit/2hit) > (no dash cancel) is a perty good nerf, but maybe we can folow whit "GH" - TK "GH" or maybe this new "scyth" movement.

[Tong]

So the whole combo structure got changed eh...

And lol, if Overdrive sucks his health, it defeats the purpose since you're already giving away a burst to get in BK.

I kinda agree with KF about Overdrive resembling X-Factor, and I find some rather scary like Kune's (He can fill his Curse Gauge during Curse).

I'm skeptical about the time freeze thingy, hope it doesn't mean getting a free combo off anything your opponent tries or it would be better than a Gold Burst.

BB finally got a REAL comeback mechanic, this shit will be very interesting, if not heavily criticized.

Yes, we've basically gotten CT Ragna back... for awhile.

[MashThat5A]

You can't TK Gauntlet Hades if you can't jump :v

[-Kid]

Yes, we've basically gotten CT Ragna back... for awhile.

Until the next location test ._.

But in the meanwhile, Ragna is definitely looking more difficult to use. So much for being your player friendly character huh?

Should be interesting to see what he can do.

[Dont_Explain]

I think we still got corner combos.

the corner it's probably 5B>6A>5D(1)>DS>5C>jc j.C>j.D>BE>5D(2)>DID/Scythe ender?

Wallbounce if I read right, doesnt work like it used to. Oh well.

[WolfCrimson]

I'm quite sure it's the Trigger Crush version, the text around that pic is about Trigger Crush.

Cool, so Crush Trigger moves are basically ghetto Force Breaks.

[-Kid]

Seems to me that barrier is more important in this game.

Breaking someone's guard is a free combo, If you don't hold up your barrier. Really, you don't know when someone is gonna attempt it, unless you can react to it by putting barrier up..If the guard breaking moves are as slow as overheads.

[Tong]

Well, it's definitely easier to Barrier a move than react to something that breaks your primers.

[MashThat5A]

This sounds hilarious. Joke tests are the best.

[Fistmaster049]

if no guard primers you gotta wonder though, where will that leave moves that took primers like Dead spike?

will they simply do more damage? or will they just be those moves that will slowly just fade into the background that no-one uses anymore beyond combos? lol

[Dont_Explain]

I imagine DS will still be plus on block, so you can do your usual if you think they won't press buttons.

[Lich]

You guys think because your character has a new tk input he'll be harder to play...? :V

[BatousaiJ]

It's Ragna.

>Does he have 5B

>Does he have Inferno Divider

We'll be fine.

Lumin knows what's up.

I hope they don't rape my Bk > DbD too much, if that's gone I don't really have a lot of reasons to use the scrubedge.

You guys think because your character has a new tk input he'll be harder to play...? :V

Hey, you wouldn't know. It's not like your main requires you to TK anything!

[LuminAbyss]

Hey, you wouldn't know. It's not like your main requires you to TK anything!

I love you Brotousai.

[Cheefoo]

So Overdrives =/= Force Breaks? Oh, it's X-FACTOR?! What is this Chocoplasma bullshit game, and where is my Braybroo?

[Tong]

Isuna's impressions

System

Overdrive: Lasts about 5 seconds on full health, last about 15 seconds with almost no health.

Corner bounce: Instead of bouncing off the wall, they instead seem to be stuck to the wall for a little while and then fall straight to the ground. Seemed like it was harder to combo because of this.

Ragna:

-Blood Kain with no health loss. I think Devour by Darkness does double damage.

-You don't need Blood Kain for Devour by Darkness, but it does "only" 2200 damage (but double damage in Blood Kain). He has a new overhead-like attack when he transforms his hand like Devour, and hits opponent from above. Maybe this is Blood Schythe on ground.

Didn't know about the New Overhead.

[xlolxlolx]

thats his crush trigger thing apparently its like makoto's 6b but it has really slow startup and he flashes white while doing it lol