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Especially considering stuff like people are joking around that Tager's gonna be S-tier for another 3 more days until his old friend comes back.

iirc jB's untechable time was nerfed a small bit compared to EX. Also, I'm not going to call out tiers now but he is definitely looking stronger than I anticipated, CP is looking good so far.

His new combos are pretty meter inefficient, I kind of gave up trying to craft combos after I tried to find out what might be the best 2B confirm just a bit ago. There are already a lot of theory combos there as well as corner carry combos on the jbbs too so it shouldn't be long before we get to see some full fledged Hakus soon. And I swear Arksys is trying to say that Hakumen doesn't need his drives with the 6D nerf and some of the weird drive adjustments. OD Yukikaze is still cool though so that can stay.

2D is still pretty strong vs. most lows since most of them aren't jump cancel-able for an easy block. I can agree with the change since an unblockable counter would be too good for a speedier game like CP.

Yeah, I think that's what they tried to reference. I'm pretty sure you can unless if they changed the properties again in CP.

Honestly speaking, the OD Shippu wave buff is a great addition to strengthening Haku's Mugen pressure since wave > Kishuu from at least 2/3rd of the screen is a free Mugen mixup. Yeah the video makes him look dumb as hell but I'm sure people will learn to respect his full screen OD Mugen pressure if Haku decides to go for it, no way in hell will we see a lot of free 6k unburstable combos from a full screen Shippu spamming. Also, mac go get a nico account through the english site. You're missing out man:psyduck: http://nicoviewer.net/sm19424269

Fuck special spamming combos. Fuck Tsubakoptr. Fuck Renka(1) loops. We OD Shippu wave loop now. http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm19424269

I remember reading a post in the jbbs of someone confirming Guren connecting from a FC 6C, I wonder how much we can confirm into. I also read that the feint is pretty slow but it still sounds like a useful tool in stuff like the Tager matchup.

Nah, it was probably sector seven.

Mugen looks like it went back to its CT roots. Shippu minimum nerfed and I think SMP is accounted for but only to the tech proration e.g. Tsubaki gained SMP this game so you can do something like three Tsubaki > Shippu for 7k-ish before they can tech by the fourth Tsubaki. I think I read in the jbbs that Tsubaki still ignores the combo rate but Zantetsu sadly doesn't. It's easier to combo into it from a forward grab though so that's a plus I guess, if a grab > Mugen > OD can get a 5k+ burst impossible, I guess it's still usable outside of gimmicks.

I'm going to bet some joker out there will attempt Akumetsu > OD > Akumetsu some day.

I mean I tried calculating without the bonus proration and it comes out fine so I don't know if I'm mistaking how to calculate damage here or how the bonus proration is used in calculation :/.

Where did you see it and do you have a link to said video of it? Also, is there really any bonus proration for Renka? I just ran a calc through and it looked like it didn't have any at all though I only found one combo to work with it.

Pretty much most of his A/B normals were buffed in regards to being a starter, hell Enma got a nice buff as a starter too but it's P2 is still low so I'm guessing it's not that Enma's P2 got better, it's just that all of his starters are actually decent starters now unlike how the loketest reported.

I'm sure there are a lot stuff from the loketest could have easily been the testers making mistakes because of how they tested it, game speed change, hell the loketest info probably gives us a general idea but nothing 100% since even the jP players too are finally getting to do more in depth research now that the game is out. I wouldn't be surprised if they did take out the projectile invul from Kishuu, but it wouldn't be weird if it's not gone as well. Also, the jbbs seems to have gotten down calculating the prorations for his new moves. 90 starter 6B sounds so delicious. Again, think of this as pretty pictures until we get more data.

....is it me or does the title say Continuum Shift?

You could follow up with a max charge 6C from a guard break from before, might have been that the person who tried it couldn't confirm it properly or the guard crush state is shorter since everyone gained a CT.

Give Haku a 3D/4D that feints his drives then he'll truly become a scumbag character. Also, I think I remember reading nothing really connects to 6C max fatal even from a CT guard break.

Eh, I saw a lot of janky corner combos too but I think it's possible to expand on it in the future. Also, double Zantetsu into 5k sounds nice but I thought Zantetsu was supposed to have SMP? I guess we'll just figure more about combos in the future. I saw how the new 6D looks but haven't seen it actually succeed yet, it really looks like a safer alternative to 5D since it's recovery is supposed to be really fast. I think I also read in the jbbs that it possibly does have a better proration compared to the other drives. @dioxideUniversa I think that's the Hachiouji stream, got to saw like two games of Chibaken's Haku at the end too. Agito is looking really good, especially as a pressure tool. The stream I've been watching showed that the ender is decent enough to provide a quick oki setup and it seems to be able to provide good overhead pressure since it seems to be plus on block because of how the Haku was able to constantly pull an Agito > jB blockstring; even on whiff he just fell to the ground to block or was mashing on jA at times to beat the opponent out of a throw or something. And also, the free mags gain from just catching projectiles is looking really good, every time the Rachel challenged him, he made a lot of mags easy just by catching the rods, George and Tempest Dahlia.

There were a lot of streams and I was watching the latter part of the Naka Joy stream so not sure, the one I watched had a Plat, Rachel and Ragna.

Just finished watching some CP Haku livestream day one tech. He is looking way better than I anticipated.

What if his normals are like that because he can't dash.

Because Tsubaki is the fastest overhead ever, that's why.

I can't believe I missed that, sorry. Also, I wonder if his DD's unblockables just converts into an overhead/low if there is only a single weakpoint.

Actually, after a short thought, I wonder if Azrael's single weakpoint DD "unblockables" are just fancy for "overhead" or "low".