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[Xrd] News & (Theoretical) Gameplay Discussion
Digital Watches replied to Shinjin's topic in Guilty Gear General
I'm not going to dispute that it's not a very practical setup, because as far as I can tell Potemkin doesn't get much reward for landing a 2P anyway, but if we're going to argue the feasibility of setups based on these factors, we could say that reliable oki in GG is basically impossible, because: -There are always different knockdown setups -There are always different wakeup timings for each character -There are always different wakeup timings for front- or back-facing knockdown. The fact that you've got to memorize a 1F link on top of the already memorization-intensive game that is okizeme in Guilty Gear does make the setup extremely hard to do, but I don't think it's going to be the straw that breaks the camel's back to where we need to start calling it "impractical" or "not match viable." It's still just a character-specific/setup-specific timing you have to memorize. So yeah, that particular setup is probably not very practical, but if an equivalently-difficult thing got you some insane gain you couldn't get otherwise, like an unreadable 50-50 into 40% and knockdown, you bet your ass top players would do that shit. Consistently. In matches. -
[Xrd] News & (Theoretical) Gameplay Discussion
Digital Watches replied to Shinjin's topic in Guilty Gear General
Yeah, I'd believe it's only cancellable via second-order cancel properties (i.e. you connected with the j.D, thus the "special-cancellable" state you gain from that carries over to the landing recovery). -
[Xrd] News & (Theoretical) Gameplay Discussion
Digital Watches replied to Shinjin's topic in Guilty Gear General
Generally you can special-cancel the landing recovery of a j.D. I'm not 100% sure it requires you to connect with the attack, or whether this applies to accumulated landing recovery (Landing recovery happens even if the move that caused it wasn't the last move you did in the air. The classic example is Baiken's Youzansen: Guaranteed to recover in the air, but has landing recovery whenever you actually land) or recovery from special moves. I'm not sure where you're getting the 1F landing recovery thing, as you can definitely at least block on the frame you land as long as you didn't do a move that causes landing recovery sometime during your jump. Also: The claim that something requiring 1F timing means something isn't usable is basically already discredited as an argument, if we're talking about something that doesn't also require reacting to an opponent. Humans have provably mastered 1F timing on numerous occasions in numerous different games, including the people who could do 1F FRCs consistently when they existed, as well as any number of 1F links in more games than I'm going to bother to name here. Hell, I use a 1F link in my +R combos, and I'm definitely far from an execution god. It's certainly difficult, but it's demonstrably within human capabilities to do it consistently with practice, and thus match-viable. Whether it's worth doing might be up to question, but it's not going to be because of the strict timing. -
[Xrd] News & (Theoretical) Gameplay Discussion
Digital Watches replied to Shinjin's topic in Guilty Gear General
As a general rule, most do not. There may be a few special cases, but for the most part, jumping normals not done with the D button recover instantly on landing. -
[Xrd] News & (Theoretical) Gameplay Discussion
Digital Watches replied to Shinjin's topic in Guilty Gear General
Um, since when does j.S have landing recovery? If an aerial normal that doesn't specifically have landing recovery does 10F of stun on IB, and a grounded normal has 9F startup, that's a true blockstring on IB. -
[Xrd] News & (Theoretical) Gameplay Discussion
Digital Watches replied to Shinjin's topic in Guilty Gear General
Wait, who's saying Sol isn't a grappler? It's clear and obvious that he is. EDIT: Sorry to be off topic but someone is wrong on the internet! -
God. 2P chaining into f.S and 6H has got to be one of the biggest buffs in +R. That shit just looks impossible to deal with.
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Oh man that tourney was GDLK. Seriously y'all are the best ever. Shoutouts in no particular order to: Mynus for mad skills and being chill as fuck. You make Axl v. I-No look almost fair. A3Religion for proving you can keep fighting even after you go home and be a family man, and for those godlike pickups. Alzarath for making me scared of the forest again and being the most humble motherfucker in the world. No, really, you're at least as good as everyone says you are. XAQShinor: I woke up in a cold sweat last night dreaming about laser piranhas. You're a gentleman and a scholar and I hope you're really seriously considering moving to Portland. Blacksnake with the beard assist. I swear that thing is hiding a third hand 'cause your slashbacks and callouts are some alien technology. No amount of hanging out with you is ever enough. Bob Washington for repping the best character and being hilarious. Kenji for being the secret god of America. I still don't get the team wheelchair thing but you're doing awesome stuff and I hope it works out. Jais for being basically impossible to catch, being a damn snappy dresser and handsome motherfucker. Good shit winning it all. Pacific Northwest! MAHOUKO: Are you even human? I don't know how you do what you do but keep doing it. Zidane for being a mindreader and seriously I promise you're actually a nice guy. Good shit discovering the ghost-hands technique. I think you might have revolutionized the Hinge meta for good. Kyle for being way too good and probably way too nice of a guy to boot. I'm sad you got hit by the arrive-early leave-early combo. MarlinPie I haven't seen you in forever, I'm sad we didn't get to hang out. Good shit in tournament, I thought I was done for sure when you popped up (And I'm sad those matches aren't on stream 'cause I'm still not quite sure how I won that). Fleshpounder for giving me hope for new blood in this old game. VR-Raiden, Potemkin Dan, M.Song, Sheraz, 4r5, and whoever else I played in MD room: I didn't get to talk to y'all much but I should have, good games. C0R for being super chill even though I keep forgetting who you are. I feel really bad about it every time @.@ Stickbug for being 100% pro 100% of the time. Special thanks for driving me around when transit failed me. Please never change. Jourdal and Cierno(sp?) for being top-tier sleep-deprived conversationalists. Thanks for rambling with me and Zidane all night. Fire alarm is a 9-1 matchup. Jeff, don't ever change. SKD: Please don't die. Kaeru for talking strategy in french in tourney, and just generally being fun to be around. Derq for bringing awesome beer and repping Canadia. We didn't talk much at the tourney and that's kind of a crime. Brice: JUST DO IT. Always just do it. Kirbster for making a character in BB look hella interesting to me. Circuitous for bodying my Justice. Don't sleep in the snow! Amadeous for that mad character love. Kitsoru for bringing all the hype. All of it. SHTKN for still rockin' the cowboy hat. I'm sorry for still playing a character you hate Other canada peeps: Sorry I can't keep all your names straight, y'all are awesome across the board Lich: You're as chill as they come. Maybe some day we'll play the same game so you can body me. I'm sure there are more people than that, sorry if I forgot you. See you all in Montreal!
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Er, potemkin can hammerfall through rashousen. I can guarantee you that from far away, it can be done on reaction. Perhaps you're not risking getting hit, but absorbing a rashousen gains him distance and frames you don't want him to have. I would bet that good potemkins can react to it from rensen range, and although rensen will beat hammerfall, they can charge while watching for rensen, hammerfall from a decent distance, and catch you even if you fake-rashou. Obviously some people will fall for things they shouldn't, and being unpredictable is good, but I would argue that rashousen is almost never a good option against a good potemkin. I say this as someone who's gotten away with it a lot, but trust me, if they know what they're doing and know the matchup, you're gonna have a bad time throwing it out. I agree that 6H is risky against pot, and I would even go as far as saying it's basically a bad (or at least very situational) tool in this matchup, because in addition to just backdashing, pot can also 6P it on reaction. However, you can definitely use it as an overhead in blockstrings, so it's not completely terrible. IAD back j.S is an amazing tool against pot, as is 5H, as is 2H, as is rensen. Essentially, this is the only matchup I can think of where you want to keep your distance most of the time. You definitely can approach pot if you're at advantage, but your first priority at neutral is being somewhere he doesn't have good options. Potemkin definitely can't approach you easily, and you have the tools to respond to anything he can try to get in.
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I'd think you could go for a better combo than that. Something like j.P-41236S (FRC) into either like... land 6H into whatever or or j.D-dj.S(1)-41236H, j.H at least
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Guilty Bits video series- Official thread
Digital Watches replied to tataki's topic in Guilty Gear General
Psh, people exaggerate how bad Justice is. We're not talking third strike bottom tier here. -
Hokuto no Jersey thread: Fist-pump of the North Shore
Digital Watches replied to bbq sauce's topic in East Coast
I actually wasn't aware that airlines routing you onto trains was an option until I checked the itinerary more closely. But yeah apparently. Thus far you seem to be winning the bidding though, 7:30 is better than the next-best offer of 8:00. But it's cheaper to pay gas money than get a cab, so here's hoping the train station has wi-fi. -
Hokuto no Jersey thread: Fist-pump of the North Shore
Digital Watches replied to bbq sauce's topic in East Coast
I'm flying in to Newark and then apparently United booked me a train to PA from there. Which would be fine except the train station, unlike the airport, is not near the Clarion. I get in at 5:29 PM on thursday. -
Hokuto no Jersey thread: Fist-pump of the North Shore
Digital Watches replied to bbq sauce's topic in East Coast
I hear tell New Jersey might be able to give me a ride from the train station to NEC on thursday? Actually no one told me that, I was just told to ask here. By a reliable source. Anyone driving there in cars? -
I'm hittin' up east coast threads lookin' to bum a ride to NEC from the train station in Philadelphia. Anyone happen to be going? Possibly in some kind of car-like device? Hit me up.
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Yo can I get a ride to NEC from the train station? Apparently United put me on a train. A TRAIN of all things! Actually trains are alright. But the train station appears to be like 12 miles out from the Clarion and fuck cabs. So uh, pretty please? I get in on thursday at 5:29 and I'll bring gas money.