KM Riku

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBn174O1oQE#t=5m54s Now they uploaded it

I'm not a Bang player or anything, but...the j.4C loop does work midscreen in CS2: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm13540663 (Warning of extreme manliness in the last match of this video) At 19:10 more or less. This is a video from some days ago that for some reason they didn't post in the posting video thread lol. The Bangs in that ranbat are amazing, the links of part 3 and 4: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm13541192 http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm13541372 *there's no Bang matches in part 2

Get out of here BLOOK Vs Kagetsu (Jin) I'm going to do an update with the opponents names later

http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?10972-BBCS1-Tier-List-THE-FINAL-CHAPTER&p=926188&viewfull=1#post926188 Just leaving this here :3

Fix'ed, thx :3

Taokaka Video Thread CS2 Since we got a lot of videos last week, I decided to create this theard and update it myself. I'm quite busy with some problems, so for now I'm not going to put the date and the names of the opponents. Also I don't the links of some old matches, sorry. Vs.: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlNf2ga-Av0 - BLOOK http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI698GMvBKY - Izayoi Matoi Sattsuo Vs Mori BLOOK Vs VER Seji Vs tamotsu Izayoi Matoi Vs ??? BLOOK Vs VER Pezu Vs tsucchi ^ Vs.: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVohO_z-_mE - ESP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g8G5UekB78 - wiki no hito http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDPF33Fx2GY - BLOOK: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcSKBFwUPoI - Izayoi Matoi ESP Vs zanzan Sattsuo Vs Ogasawara Shouko) Tamo Vs Ogasawara Shouko ESP Vs ryo-ta ??? Vs Zanzan ESP Vs judo^ Vs.: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04GU-EPGaDY - Izayoi Matoi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iX65LF4Wfc - ESP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w95cebhZGqM – Seji Izayoi Matoi Vs fuwaria ??? Vs ??? Vs.: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmqYBCbRAjs - ESP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvHtZBX_fW0 – BLOOK Kazuhira Vs Ito Kanae Tom Vs Chin Pezu Vs Sanchi ??? Vs ??? Vs.: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqChXSaGGHQ - seji^ gunsou http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIbskydVJ2M - seji^ gunsou RAN Vs hokuto satsuo Vs kya^rochasa^n Seji Vs hayate BLOOK Vs Kagetsu seji^ Vs shima ??? Vs ??? ??? Vs ??? Vs.: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nq5HmPduZpA - Izayoi Matoi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ4B0kyviNY - Tom and ESP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJVXxNUP45s - Kazuhira http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g8G5UekB78 - wiki no hito RAN Vs konkon Meinia Vs Miu ESO Vs Shirushi Sattsuo Vs ??? Izayoi Matoi Vs Rasuki Izayoi Matoi) Vs (???) Seji Vs Konkon Vs.: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g8G5UekB78 - wiki no hito http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjemcT46Cos - rippusu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMcK2ld5QB8 - Izayoi Matoi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh1aUpy2gng - Izayoi Matoi Izayoi Matoi Vs Galileo Izayoi Matoi Vs rakki^ Seji Vs Kimura Izayoi Matoi Vs radeittsu Meinia Vs(NEO Tom Vs Kimuraichi Sattsuo Vs ??? ??? Vs hane ESP Vs Kimura ESP Vs Kimura Izayoi Matoi Vs Galileo Seji Vs dancho^ Uisura Vs kyuani^to Vs.: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuW4JjU9UNo - hatsugari rizeyo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlNf2ga-Av0 - BLOOK http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI698GMvBKY - Izayoi Matoi ESP Vs yoshiki Sattsuo Vs Antei^ Izayoi Matoi Vs Tsukasa BLOOK Vs yoshio RAN Vs pinose Vs.: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVohO_z-_mE - ESP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g8G5UekB78 - wiki no hito http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjemcT46Cos - rippusu Seji Vs R-1 ESP Vs yuu Sattsuo Vs Shubin Izayoi Matoi Vs ??? seji Vs KOGY Izayoi Matoi Noel Azuo Vs.: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzL5jG-bTpk - wiki no hito and Kazuhira http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B75G-KIqRk - Rippusu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvjlKcJw3VM - Izayoi Matoi RAN Vs Hiro satsuo Vs Hiro Tom Vs kamichan BLOOK Vs Roku seji^ Vs Hagi ESP V Eito Tomato Vs Hagi Kazuhira Vs Goro Vs.: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w95cebhZGqM - Seji Seji Vs Maguro Meinia Vs AKI Izayoi Matoi Vs ??? ESP Vs keba Vs.: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04GU-EPGaDY - Izayoi Matoi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lExeN6FXLow - Kazuhira http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6a7ntRujF4 - hatsugari rizeyo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZMAEtFJflY – ESP Izayoi Matoi Vs asou BLOOK Vs Matsu BLOOK Vs Karune BLOOK Vs (???) seji Vs YAMA Sattsuo Vs IIshii Tom Vs IIshii Tom Vs IIshii Vs.: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJxgR_pziCE - ESP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nq74WlhBUcA - Izayoi Matoi Izayoi Matoi Vs kanata ESP Vs ko^ji Tamo Vs HARA Sattsuo Vs HARA Izayoi Matoi Vs ryaku kire ??? Vs ??? ESP Vs ora Tomato Vs Komomo Seji Vs kan'u Seji Vs Komomo Vs.: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g8G5UekB78 - wiki no hito and Kazuhira http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qETYZBE62k - hatsugari rizeyo and RAN RAN Vs Tom BLOOK Vs Kumi-kun Sattsuo Vs Tom Vs.: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzL5jG-bTpk – Kazuhira ESP Vs Tager ESP Vs Tager Sattsuo Vs Akira aze Vs buru^hawai Tamo Vs Bobu ESP Vs Akira Satsuo Vs Akira Tom Vs Tiku Vs.: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B75G-KIqRk - Rippusu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJxgR_pziCE - ESP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF13Z74-Sqk – ESP ESP Vs odanobunaga Tom Vs Kuresu Seji Vs kan'u Kazuhira Vs Konan ??? Vs ??? Vs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmSlNySt90w - Izayoi Matoi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ4B0kyviNY - Tom and ESP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuW4JjU9UNo - hatsugari rizeyo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvHtZBX_fW0 - BLOOK http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvjlKcJw3VM - Izayoi Matoi Satsuo vs te ^ in satsuo Vs jinpuu Seji Vs surippa RAN Vs kuro sa yume ??? Vs ??? BLOOK Vs rorikon Uisura Vs kyahho Vs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nq74WlhBUcA - Izayoi Matoi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcSKBFwUPoI - Taoshisu shiwaki Vs tochigin Sattsuo Vs Nao seji Vs tochigin Tom Vs Tochigin Izayoi Matoi Vs sekaiju no miko erein Satsuo Vs Shou ESP Vs Tochigin ??? Vs ??? A-cho (check the comments in YT for the time of the matches): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzCJPRUTZIg (first match) - some Izayoi Matoi and others Tao matches http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_seRztNd-Mg (after ~11min) - some Izayoi Matoi matches 03/21 3on3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpb0OisbiFI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p8YxgLdT3g http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1qhq0YrsHU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qI1T2i0IXhI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4ukIcLMoFo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4ukIcLMoFo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-NmtFNvx9M http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_XfTw4yyT0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkxTUcLvS6Y http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0evXvofh9-k 03/24: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmtSG85I7Ms 22º a-cho ranbat: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJMR9fqqPns 4/29 Freeplay (Yellow Tao and Uisura matches): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nEalORc-Qc&list=PLF616D20937FCC31D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70hRPoebPao&list=PLF616D20937FCC31D 3on3 (Uisura matches): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2IFj3iILqo&list=PLF616D20937FCC31D 6/9 Ranbat (Izayoi Matoi matches): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbBPjNY-mws

Not only that but Tao can use the j.8D~A loop from more setups than taunt loop (6A AA for ~3,1k for example). More untechable time for DE was definitely a great buff and Tao will improve more since a lot of stuff isn't fully explored yet ([2]C forcing FC in combo for example)

@Stan: 5C, 2C, 6C and 236CC fully charged take a guard prime even in CS1 I was kinda away because of some family problems, so I made a reprodution list of all Tao matches last week...and there were 24 Tao videos only last week . I was kinda surprised since there were only a few Tao matches and in one week we had more Tao videos than ever. Not only that, but Tao wins in most of those matches. After all, it seems that Tao is still pretty strong :3

Two Kazuhira matches: Vs Rachel (third match): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lExeN6FXLow Vs Jin (second match): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJVXxNUP45s (lol this match) A-cho, the Tao paradise (lots of Tao matches...and some Makoto rape): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzCJPRUTZIg The first maches are Izayoi Matoi+an Yellow Tao, there are more Yellow, Green and Neutral Tao matches in the same video. But obviously Tao's pink pallet gives her super strength. Makoto CS2 matchup remembers me Litchi and Valk CS1 matchups, 2 full combos and you are dead so don't get hit...except for the fact that we had a godly j.5D. Most Makoto's combos damage are a little higher than Tao's, it gives her a godly oki and they are all pretty much low risk/high reward. Makoto's 2A now hits Tao crawling, but Tao can still crawl most of Makoto's normals.But the matchup is general doesn't look so bad, at most it's even or slightly Makoto's advantage. Jin probably will be a bad matchup for the same motives he was in CT

Indeed, 214D crossups are awesome and j.C doing ~3,9k makes it even better. However, it would be nice if Tao had a more useful guard break option (like...Cat2 5th hit or Cat3 2nd hit...or any 22C hit that isn't the 12th lol). Even though she doesn't really need it, Tao's guard break options are just too horrible and unsafe...even Hazama has decent guard break tools. Guard break->[2]C FC must be awesome D:

Vs Bang/Mu/Hazama: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6ob0liwaPA&feature=feedu_more After some time, decent Tao matches weeee. Btw, it seems that j.2D~B after blockstring doesn't crossup anymore because of the new j.2D direction...but I'm not sure. Also I'm loving ~3,1k after a 6A :3

Okay...Tao forum on jBBS posted a new combo list. Maybe this will help the future Tao CS2 combo theard. j.8D~A loop Finisher: ...->2D~C->j.8D->j.5D~6->j.C->8D~6->3D->Cat2 j.8D~A loop Combos: Midscreen: 5B->3C->Cat1->5D~B->5C->j.8D~A (4x)->finisher [3974] 5B->6A (2 hits)->j.8D~A (6x)->finisher [3460] 5C->3C->...->2C->5D~B->5C->j.8D~A (3x)->finisher [4273] *I'm not sure about the delay, maybe it's about charging it a little, needs confirmation* 5B(CH)->5B->3C->Cat1->5D~B->5C->j.8D~A (3x)->finisher [3658] 5B(CH)->5B->6A (2 hits)->j.8D~A (4x)->finisher [3148] 2B->6A (2 hits)->j.8D~A (2x)->finisher [2721] 6B(CH)->5B->3C->Cat1->5D~B->5C->finisher [3018] 6B(CH)->5B->6A (2 hits)->j.8D~A (2x)->finisher [2640] 6A(2 hits)->j.8D~A (6x)->finisher [3310] 6C(CH)->5C->j.8D~A (6x)->finisher [4281] 4D~B AA->5C->j.8D~A (5x)->finisher [4597] j.5D~B Air-to-Air->5C->j.8D~A (3x)->2D~C->j.9D->j.9D->j.3D->Cat2 [3236] j.4D~A->5B->3C->Cat1->5D~B->5C->j.8D~A (3x)->finisher [4214] 4B+C->5B->5C->j.8D~A (3x)->finisher [2810] *lol 4B+C combo doing the almost the same ddamage as a 2B combo j.B+C->5D~B->5C->j.8D~A->finisher [4137] 50% Heat Gauge midscreen: 4B+C->RC->6C->[2]C (FC)->5D~B->5C->j.8D~A (3x)->finisher [3358] Hexa Edge->5C->JC->j.BB->j.C->j.9D->j.3D->Cat2 [3410] Coner: 5B->3C->Cat3->5D~A->j.8D~A (5x)->finisher [4624] 5B->3C->2C->5D~A->j.8D~A (5x)->finisher [4448] 6B(CH)->5B->3C->Cat3->5D~A->j.8D~A (3x)->finisher [3590] 6B(CH)->5B->3C->2C->5D~A->j.8D~A (3x)->finisher [3463] 2C->3C->Cat3->5D~A->j.8D~A (6x)->finisher [5431] 2C(CH)->6c->Cat3->5D~A->j.8D~A (6x)->finisher [5381] [2]C(FC)->6C->6C->Cat3->5D~A->j.8D~A (8x) [6068] 6C->Cat3->5D~A->j.8D~A (6x)->finisher [4594] j.C->5B->3C->Cat3->5D~A->j.8D~A (4x)->finisher [4491] *a j.C combo doing almost the same damage as a 6C combo in coner lol* j.C->5B->3C->2C->5D~A->j.8D~A (4x)->finisher [4329] Cat3->5D~A->j.8D~A (5x)->finisher [3884] 6B+C->j.4D~A->5C->j.8D~A (3x)->finisher [3872] j.4D~A->5B->3C->Cat3->5D~A->j.8D~A (3x)->finisher [4730] j.4D~A->5B->3C->2C->5D~A->j.8D~A (3x)->finisher [4662] original BBS post(I didn't understand the last combo listed) Also, another post lists some combos that I didn't understand at all. It seems to use 214D, j.214D and 2[8]D~B. If anyone could get it right later :3 And lol j.C

Coner: 5B->3C->RC->[2]C FC->6C->4D~C->j.4D~A->5D~A->8D~A (7x)->finisher *didn't say the damage* Funny thing, both 5B->3C->Cat1 and j.C->5B->3C->Cat1 does ~3900 using the loop. Did they change j.C P1 proration or something like that?

In the first post you didn't make clear that this topic would be a information topic about AB2 combos, it looked more like a help request. Anyway, in CS2 we pretty much can only do a AB2 after a 3C in coner and the combo is even more easier now...there's not need for a topic only for it, the future CS2 combo theard will do the job. The last AB2 ender you posted is still wrong, it's not even like that in the combo theard. About the midscreen one, the problem is that it's too character specific and situational...I don't recomment to risk doing it. About the first coner combo...yeah my mistake there, sorry.

Sorry, but a single problem that YOU have doesn't really need a theard only for it. However, I'll answer before XDest closes the theard. The midscreen AB2 combo that you posted doesn't work at all and it's pretty character specific, I wouldn't recommend to try AB2 enders midscreen...even though they are possible you shouldn't risk at all. The both coner AB2 are listed wrong, they should be like: TL (max)->AB2->Taunt->236C->236A->JC->2D~6->Cat2->7JC->Cat2->8JC->Cat2 TL (max)->AB2->236C->4D~6->Cat2->7JC->Cat2->8JC->Cat2 I made this post in the combo theard giving some notes and tips about the AB2 ender. Next time, don't do a new theard just for it.

If you can't do combos that involve drive cancels, then you pretty much can't play Tao right and decently. Even though you didn't need drive cancel at all in CT combos, if you didn't know how to use her drive well in general situations...it means your Tao were poor. Tao isn't really a hard character because of her combos, she's hard because using her drive effectively and master it is hard. For example, you may know how to do taunt loop or her combos in CS...but it doesn't mean nothing if you can't really use her drive well outside of combos. Tao CT combos were way too easy and boring, you could do high damage wihout any effort. A lot of Tao players only did 5B or 5C spam waiting for a CH. Her CS combos, even without taunt loop, are much funnier, even though they may be look difficult in the beginning...but if you really know how to use her drive those combos are pretty easy and not complicated at all. You should seriously learn her CS1 combos that doesn't involve taunt loop (like 2D~C->j.C->9D or 2D~D->2D~A->8D combos using 1 taunt and 22C). They are not hard at all, buf if you can't really use her drive well and don't try to learn...you pretty much can give up on Tao because the days that you could spam 5B and 5C and do high damage are pretty much over and this won't change.

So you are not playing Tao because you want a simplier yet more boring character since you can't do a combo are not even seriously training how to do it? That's pretty retarded. Tao Vs Jin (first and third match): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ4B0kyviNY Tao Vs Platinum/Valkenhayn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwW6kxOsb5s I'm loving 214D crossups :3

15min of pure Tao :3 http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm13195049 http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm13195144 From those matches, you can see how the increased untechable time of DE is an awesome buff. For example, we don't need CH to combo after j.5D~B if you are not too far from the ground and Tao can do some links that didn't work at all in CS1. 6A still seems a solid anti-air and now we do more damage from it. Kinda obvious, but 2C CH->6C still combos without FC, 2C charged forcing FC may be a buff after all...but they don't seem to know how to use it yet. Unfortunately, the opponent bursted and we didn't see if a CH->6C does wallbounce midscreen...but since he bursted it may be possible that it indeed wallbounces midscreen and he was trying to avoid big damage...but who knows. A cancel is as safe as it was in CS1 or people don't punish it. If it's still safe, I'm a happy person then :3 http://jbbs.livedoor.jp/bbs/read.cgi/game/45148/1292751422/209 http://jbbs.livedoor.jp/bbs/read.cgi/game/45148/1292751422/211 http://jbbs.livedoor.jp/bbs/read.cgi/game/45148/1292751422/217 http://jbbs.livedoor.jp/bbs/read.cgi/game/45148/1292751422/221 I'm not sure, but it seems that you can repeat some times j.B->j.2B->j.C in a combo. If XDest or Ronove could confirm it later :3, otherwise I can ask Nikki from a brazilian forum a proper translation later (I already asked him a lot and he's doing translations for every character, so I wouldn't like to ask him again for now)

...That is not exactly what I was talking about . You know, you use like...even more ~A cancels than before...a lot more...and we still use some ~C cancels as well

You joking, right? I mean, really...you can't be serious

Random shit: Both 4B+C and j.B+C aren't special cancelable anymore Any Dancing Edge move untechable time increased Every DE move really has same move proration with the exception of j.8D The timing of the DE follow ups (~A/B/C cancels) are slightly more strict. 214D now puts you in CH and changes direction automatically. Better for crossups now. - 6A (2 hits), 8D~A (6x), 2D~C, 8D~6, j.D~6, j.C, j.8D~6, j.2D~6, Cat 2 Damage: 3.310 (I like this :3) - 5B, 6A (2 hits), 8D~A (6x), 2D~C, 8D~6, j.D~6, j.C, j.8D~6, j.2D~6, Cat 2 Damage: 3.460 - 5B, 3C, Cat 1, 5D~B, dash 5C, j.8D~A (3x), 2D~C, j.8D, j.D~6, j.C, j.8D~6, j.2D~6, Cat 2 Damage: ~4.000 - 2B, 6A (2 hits), 8D~A (4x), 2D~C, 8D~6, j.D~6, j.C, j.8D~6, j.2D~6, Cat 2 Damage: 2.815 - Air Throw, 5C, 8D~A (5x), 2D~C, 8D~6, j.D~6, j.C, j.8D~6, j.2D~6, Cat 2 Damage: 4.117 - Hexa Edge RC (1 hit), 6A, 8D~A (6x), 2D~C, 8D~6, j.D~6, j.C, j.8D~6, j.2D~6, Cat 2 Damage: 3.752 - j.A, j.C, 8D~A, 2D, j.D~6, j.C, 8D~6, j.C, 8D~6, j.2D, Cat 2 Damage: 3.191 - (corner) 2A, 5B, 3C, 2C, 5D~A, 8D~A (3x), 2D~6, j.D~6, j.C, 8D~6, j.C, 8D~6, j.2D~6, Cat 2 Damage: 3.022 @Stan McJeeves: I have my doubts if any CH 5C/2C/6A/j.C->6C really wallbounces midscreen(a pure 6C CH really does). Most of japanese Tao players are still playing a CS1 style like (this didn't change too much anyway, we just can't abuse j.D like we could before), where the reward of a 5C CH was poor and you really hadn't a motive to use it outside of pressure and some combos. Any other move in the game doesn't seem to wallbounce midscreen if you start with another move CH (FC doesn't count), so I don't think 5C CH really wallbounces midscreen.

You are not trying enough :3