well 5b>2c is pretty bad now since 2c is garbage starter now, but before this version you would pretty much mix it up with jump, backdash, dp, and throw if they were mashing you out of the frame trap since chances are that theyre not worrying about teching a throw if theyre busy mashing. ehhh jin's pressure was never really that great, pretty much the same as it was before and isnt 5b>j.2c only for tager. pretty much back to cs1 with the gimmicks now, but 5b is pretty much his most versitile move, goes into pretty much everything on block and core of his baiting game. meh, theres alot of stuff i do instinctively