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Unlimited Rapids in Mugen? It would shoot Mugen from useless to fucking broken in an instant.

lol inb4lolhakumenmashC

I just love the way Jabaki looks, I'm so glad it's gonna be really useful now.

Also, since 5B > 3C > 236D > 5C connects in the corner I can assume that we can get to an aerial BnB from the ground, corner only.

Do you know when we'll see the finalized product? Wasn't it in early December?

Yeah, it is definitely very awkward to do seeing as we're just used to doing j.Cx5 > j.Cx5 > 214B. I tried doing it a bit in Training Mode, it's awkward but not terrible. I wonder if there's any kind of subtle change in j.B or j.C that allows that smooth aerial BnB though.

Unless what wuku posted was changed in the 4th loketest, yeah, seems like D~A cancel got faster.

Ok, so those changes are still sticking? Just making sure none of it changed.

So, I'm just throwing some stuff out there. But since Haz has no way of launching into an air combo mid-screen, it seems that when it comes to getting close up, his best option is to 5B > 3C > Jabaki to push them into the corner where he can actually go into an air combo, gain heat, and start using Jayoku for teh big damage. This is of course just talking about his close up game, and not his zoning game. His zoning I think got a little stronger due to D~A cancel being faster. Hit stun is lower so, I dunno know where that leaves him at.

That sounds....pretty high tier.

Ok what exactly are Hakumen's changes so far? As far as I know C moves are faster and counters don't combo anymore. What his other (seemingly) final changes? Also, what about combo ability?

Only time I ever bother with using 6D is during predictable blockstrings or moves. For example, Arakune's seem to think its safe to do all three of his 6C moves on Hakumen during curse. It ain't. But most of the time, 6D is outshone by j.D for obvious reasons.

What? Mugen being broken? No, that's more like Mugen being semi-useful now.

Ha! It was only a matter of time until Hotaru was made corner only-able. As far as new 6D goes, oki is probably the only use it has now. Too bad I barely use 6D as it is.

Highly doubtful that Jabaki > 5D would connect, he'd be back to being A tier if he had a reliable way of launching into an air combo again. Regardless, I'm hype for some Jabaki combos especially if 5C connects after it in the corner. Would add some serious style to his one combo.

^ What are you talking about? His normals were so money, Haz didn't have to work that hard to get damage. As far as we know, there's nothing that Hazama can do from the ground to directly launch into an air combo. If he already hits the opponent out of air, then he's eligible for an air combo and decent heat gain. If you didn't use Jayoku during a combo before, you sure as hell will now.

So what? S-tier Haku? Really hope not, it won't be that much fun to use him if he's way too easy to win with.

I always loved doing 6C off of Gurren in CT. If they were close to dying they would often burst as a result, which would just screw them over more in the long run.

I'm pretty sure if he had all his main CS buffs and old 6A, he'd be S tier, or close to it. The only way you'd be able to get in his defense is if the Haku player is really fucking dumb. So loketest #3 is happenin'....anyone got any news to share? Preferably translated.

Hm, I dunno. That may be too many buffs for CT Haku. Especially considering the fact that he still has old 6A. Dude would be a goddamn fortress. Nu would still be a bitch to fight tho.

This bothers me little. I guess I understand what's being done here, that they want to limit his heat gain some. But that also changes the timing at which he has to begin mashing j.C during a combo. If you start it where you normally would, you'd be too high up to make sure the rest connects. I'm sorry, what? They made A canceling chains faster, but harder to combo with? Good, Jabaki doesn't need to be changed. Don't understand why you would just make combos harder to do if they are still possible. So throws are now useless, unless under specific circumstances. Mkay Doesn't seem Rachel tier, but some of these changes just seem off.

I don't think I've heard a very definite explanation for 6D yet. Can we really not combo it off of anything at all? Or just certain things like lvl 3 6C? Even still, why would it matter if we could combo into Mugen or not? They actually went and made Mugen worse, and I didn't even think that was possible.

Question is, would 214D~A be fast enough to catch a 3C hit? If it is, there's definitely no room to charge.

^ Exactly, he's a punish character. If he becomes Lambda with a big-ass sword, I might as well make him a sub.

Seems like a pretty sensible analysis, if that's what you're asking. I can't think of any other explanation for his changes. If you're asking what we think of the changes as a whole. To me, it sounds boring. But it seems to me that haku was always concentrated to be in the corner anyways. Mori just loves dem corners.