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err wait... doesn't force prorate means u got further proration on follow up combos? eg 2k>2h>ice spike(frc)>5k>5h>icespike after 2k (2h>icespike) got 70% proration after ice spike frc (5k>5h>icespike) u got 70% + 85% proration more ice spike = more proration, didn't it work that way?

if hit, Ice Spike doesn't necessarily need to be frc-ed to get an Oki setup, Ice Spike frc is mainly used for extra damage or being safer when it blocked or whiff

then, that mean yes? i've never try that. Testing it would also become an ass of work, if the body hit box of Ky f.s came at the same time as it attack hit box Pot need to telegraph that one since PB doesn't active on the 1st frame of input and doesn't have body invul, the 2nd easier way testing this (which wouldn't ever happen on real match) is Ky whiffed f.s and Pot react to it within the range of PB (Ky f.s is 9 frame and PB is 2 or 3 frame startup iirc) and suck him up

i didn't watch video/experiment much, the only practical Fish lift up help air pike combos that i know comes from corner oki setup that work on most of the cast hs~p fish>2k>laser>dash in 2k>2d>fish bite>iad j.d(1hit)>fish bite+bubble>jh+bubble pop>air pike>bubble combos it does decent damage but wouldn't score a KD

thx i use lots of 2h because i'm suck ad 2d special canceling and ice spike frc combos still become an issue on my gameplay i'm working on frc combos 1st, since i have too many match that can be won with it but i lost by screwing up the frc combos (;^_^)a

Oww shit!!!, traping people on blockstun is fucking scary XD, ok i definitely will work on k~p fish>2p>5k>tkbubble>whatever thx for the vid Nehle

Tk Bubble>|>throw ... imo very easy to read a throw came from it and probably Baiken Player would bufer and option select ouren<=>throw break on corner oki have never use it on real match, i'll try to test it since there's a very good Baiken player in my area

errr... no, against Ky doing 2h isn't actually bad as long as it hit and u got tension(even if it got blocked u can do mind games with delayed ice spike before spending tension for safety maneuver), and i fucked up the frc timming on 2nd round that kill me what i meant suck is, i've never been pawned with overhead that bad in this match up~_~

Dizzy(ex) v Ky(si) suck as hell +_+ ... *go back playing F/UC

Hatred Edge /\ The Truth ... lol

watching http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=8wDpnGEWnhQ&feature=PlayList&p=3796982DC2FEFBD6&index=11 ... well because it's the most match that i played recently ~_~... solid ice spike frc combos, need some works on confirming 2h ch into combos 2d>tk bubble is ok on very rare occasion, as Slayer should have anticipate that into mappas/bbu ch combos Dizzy was made with huge ass hit box and Slayer was a wall of anti air, his 5p can convert into ridiculous damage... naked jump in should be a NO iirc his 6k can link to 2k on normal hit, work on your hi~lo defense against jumping happy opponent Dizzy also has S_fish and ch-ing his dive super with bubble is just as funny as f.s-ing his DOT lol thx for the vid :D

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SBing 2d is overkill for exe beast pressure, just ib it for high jump/dbt/kjt ... and h_exe has frc point before it actives, go figure

some little input that might useful, i used to be like that too, i practice the frc by forgetting the match and keep focusing to do ice spike frc/combos in the match... got loads of foot print on my ass before it comes naturally lol

i just watch di v tes 2nd match... i got more constructive input for the Tes than your Dizzy (;^ ^)a need moar Gator/Skull for raping Dizzy hardcore in the corner... and don't use BL as random poke ehem... for Dizzy, u need to work on your option especially with corner throwing for example on 1:01 after blocking BL u got huge frame advantage for free corner throw that can lead to easy win(well u still win thought ) and on block string @0:39 2k gives huge pushback i don't think 2k,2s will ever connect after iad j.s>j.h, u should op 5k/5h.../2k>2d.../bubble...? need some work with Fish pressure, use P/k_fish on near/mid range knock down and h_fish for far knock down to give u coverage, don't do offensive iad without fish protection(Tes can rape your iad with j.p) i'll see the other vid later when i got time

it's not exactly a priority(there's no such thing as priority on this game, just hit box collision) but 2s, and f.s has very good attack hit box and comes out very fast if spaced correctly nothing beat 2s on the ground and f.s as an anti air(clashed at best). for c.s i often use it as meaty on Slash but on /\C well... there's 6hs option

didn't realy have a real Venom fight(the Slayer i go against're trying him)... and yeah the way to get around his 6p6hs is not trying to aproach by air and i do agree this match is slightly in Venom favour, if i ever had a real Venom fight, i think i'll just turtle with solid blocking looking a chance to counter his move (to the extend purposedly got hit by his 5h, mash out of it and ch Dubious with 2h)

i'm not sure if it possible to rensen it out, but Bridget blocked 236k_p is always negative

i've never thought auto fd if i hold 4 button and doing j.s fuzzy all the way anyway i think the Slayer i go against reversal after confirming the frc, if my memory is correct, if he reversal after confirming the brp, the brp would ch him

i use at least 4 different setup(6h,6p,bubble->2h,hs~p fish->2k oki) for bubble combos and the only time i use air pike to pop the bubble is in 6h setup XD ... if u think weird finger position plays a role, u should try to configure your button setting to make it more comfortable to get use with the combos, and Nehle was right... once u find the best configuration, u only need very little time to get a hang on it

u'll see a mix up into Dragon Install all over the OS match video if he has that kind of special

as Hintalove have stated, don't do it to often thought, Slayer can BBU that shit on reaction +_+

yeah i'd have landed the loop maybe around 5 times in real matches, 2 of it against ABA lol u use only your thumb to do all the combos (O_o)??? my thumb is small, pressing /\X or []O combination is a big pain in the ass, i use P+K macro on shoulder button for the p_bubble special cancel i would rate it lv 3 dificulty on practice mode and 4.5 on real match XD

starting random discussion any pad player here? what do you guys think about practicing bubble combos with pad? not to the extend being able to capitalize the combos on real match, just for practicing it. well i think the combos isn't as hard as May, Ino/Venom B&B and relatively easy. the hard part is knowing when you able/should do the combo on real match any second opinion about the difficulty of practicing bubble combos, in scale of 5 maybe?... i should've been able to do the combos 2years ago if i only focus on her

that gameplan is for Bridget and i'm posting from Bridget side of view (;^_^)a time out round when using a character that can deal shitload of damage/crappy zoning ability + bad mobility is kinda off concept XD Slayer jh will beat 236k~k if the last k follow up haven't out, if the follow up is out... u should test it yourself. in my experience, nothing beat that shit :D