Errol

no.

Damage and prorations were posted months ago Deadron

you're not talking about the mugen bonus which is specifically noted in the translation to be only once

Never said that. I think we're done here.

TBH there's very strong evidence for Tao being the strongest in CP, like Makoto in CS2. Hakumen is just gonna be in that same spot as NOL in CS2.

So, like, Hakumen has an 18f overhead, a 19f overhead, and a 21f overhead. I understand there's a cost involved but it doesn't seem like the easiest stuff to block..

People can enter your games without being invited in XBL.... What?

that's what he does best. Thinks BB is Halo or something.

Subjective and tier lists go hand in hand. Past the early life of BBCP, people on jbbs mostly stopped making and discussing them. The only thing that still carries any weight over there as far as I can tell, is: 1. Famous people lists. These keep getting posted. R1, Tetsuwo, Konan. 2. Stats. Recently I've seen numbers of qualifiers for ArcRevo, and then people keep assembling lists based on dan rankings. Here is one. Fluctuations are generally pretty low from week to week. Taokaka 160 Hakumen 156 Valkenhyne 154 Jin 153 Ragna 151 Hazama 151 Litchi 147 Carl 146 Azrael 144 Rachel 141 Noel 140 Tager 140 Bang 140 Mu 140 Platinum 139 Arakune 138 Relius 136 Nu 133 Bullet 133 Tsubaki 128 Izayoi 126 Makoto 125 Amane 123 Average of top 10 players. Silver tickets for ArcRevo. 8 Taokaka 6 Hakumen 5 Carl 4 Valkenhyne Mu 3 Hazama Ragna Jin Noel 2 Litchi Tager Bang Platinum Azrael 1 Makoto Tsubaki Izayoi Nu Rachel 0 Relius Bullet Amane Now, this isn't really subjective. But it's something else to say that this all lines up directly to the mythical 'true' tier list. How you interpret it certainly is subjective.

That is more respect than I saw from you in all our matches combined...

Now, that doesn't sound like you psyco. 'Noel is a goddess'. That sounds like you.

I don't know, I've never even seen psyco play his main (Noel).

only psyco good enough to play your main today huh?

My Makoto is still goddamn terrible, Toan. Why am I playing this game. We better stop. PSN can't handle my badness

it looks like you are trying too hard.

fucking psn. I wnat to play toan more.

i have a prior engagement with toan but if he's busy now I'll play you

I'm saying that's a system change and not a weakness of Hakumen

No chars get really high reward off starters like 2a anymore. You're saying he gets worse damage than others characters off 2a and stuff? Or is that just because people aren't spending stars.

I think Jiyuna made the observation that if you combo Hakumen, he gets more meter from your combo than you do. Which is kinda funny.

It sounds to me like you're advocating theory over results. Players playing characters is meaningful when you have standout players, like Goro or Konan. But when a character like Tao, or Valk, has 10 players that are on the level of the standouts from other characters... combined with the fact that Valk is one of the least played characters...? I think theory should then start trying to explain the results. Like how Hak players are here trying to understand why Hak is still S despite feeling weaker than EX, right?

What do you call a character that has one of the lowest populations, but has some of the best results overall and in tournaments? S. Hakumen is fun to play against. He's just very strong.

I don't know, he might have showed up A in 1 out of 10 tier lists so now Valk players are saying he's A? There hasn't been real tier discussion in months because people are just looking at dan statistics.

Just saying, Valkenhyne is still S, and Ragna might not be S but he's as good as anyone who isn't S. Of course Hakumen is still S.

You guys should be getting ready for CP. You know. By using a PS3 pad.