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Yea anything mixup, blockstring related can be found in the wiki. Here. You don't have to avoid jumping moves but I would advise you to avoid relying on them. You'll find that j.CC(delay) can be very useful against those who are not too familiar with Tsubaki's delay. You can find information of the wiki too. In terms of what to do in neutral in usually depends on the matchup. For example against Valk I would not be charging in neutral because he can get to you pretty quickly, while against Carl I may be more patient with getting in and just get back to gain more stock.

Well for one thing, the wiki has the information there which should be useful. In addition, this part of the tutorial video provides visual aid on how to do the combo and the problems that can arise.

I too initially thought that Zio can be used to zone. Now I don't even know what kinda playstyle Elizabeth has though I feel Kyle is spot on with the type he gave: Range + resources. Also yea, B.Zio is safe on block. Edit: Removed near corner combos from the combo thread because they're identical to her corner combos, and it's taking up unecessary space.

All of her D moves do not go into each other. 22D doesn't go into another drive and neither does J.214D. I'm also quite uncertain if that combo works. The 2nd 214D kills it.

Central Hachiouji 7/7/12 Matsu (BA) vs Kuresu (TS) Satsuno (TA) vs Kuresu (TS) Supinoza (TS) vs Chibaken (HA) Supinoza (TS) vs Rocha (HZ) Supinoza (TS) vs K taira (CA) Supinoza (TS) vs ESP (TA)

A.Zio is also punishable on block. Not sure if the same applies when full screen, but it certainly allows the opponent to get closer to you.That may also explain why I see a lot of players doing Zio > OMC. I may use Zio to punish stuff rather than zone with it. Also, I'm not sure if you guys looked at the tougeki lineup, but we have two Elizabeth players: Uchiyama and Masao. Masao can be found in some v.1.01 vids in the archive. Can't wait to see the footage.

Hm. It's pretty much reactable when Thanatos is up close to. Elizabeth has a lot of holes with her normals that gatlings into 5D.

A-Cho http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk8c1mIGAVo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBzus6bwZeg

This thread is for the posting and discussion of Elizabeth videos. Feel free to share any piece of performance you may have! The dates will be in ascending order with the most recent being at the top (by upload date), and the characters are listed in alphabetical order. Matches in bold are recommended matches. If you guys recognise any of the players whose names aren't mentioned, please be sure to give me a shoutout. If I've wrongly time stamped a video, please be sure to give me a shout! Enjoy! In case a Nico video is present, you can use this director to watch 'em. Have fun. Notable Players: (Strongest first) Shadow Kaqn Koichi Masao Contents 1.) JPN Matches 1A.) vs Aigis 1B.) vs Akihiko 1C.) vs Chie 1D.) vs Elizabeth 1E.) vs Kanji 1F.) vs Labrys 1G.) vs Mitsuru 1H.) vs Naoto 1I.) vs Shadow Labrys 1J.) vs Teddie 1K.) vs Yosuke 1L.) vs Yukiko 1M.) vs Yu 1.) JPN Matches 1A.) vs Aigis [05/25/2012] - Kumamoto Tougeki Qualifiers: Aruka (Elizabeth) vs Takarin (Aigis) [05/25/2012] - Kumamoto Tougeki Qualifiers: Amane (Elizabeth) vs Takarin (Aigis) [05/23/2012] - A-Cho: Elizabeth vs Aigis [05/04/2012] - Mokuyou E-su: Aigis vs Elizabeth [04/27/2012] - Alpha Station: Abare nnayo (Elizabeth) vs Eito (Aigis) [04/24/2012] - Yagoto: Aigis vs Elizabeth [04/20/2012] - Alpha Station: Eito (Aigis) vs Miruku (Elizabeth) [04/17/2012] - LL Koiwa: Shadow (Elizabeth) vs Aigis 1B.) vs Akihiko [05/24/2012] - Yagoto Tougeki Qualifiers: Masao (Elizabeth) vs Jagamura (Akihiko) [05/24/2012] - Yagoto Tougeki Qualifiers: Hatori (Elizabeth) vs Jagamura (Akihiko) [05/23/2012] - Ushirono: Akihiko vs Elizabeth [05/23/2012] - Ushirono: Akihiko vs Elizabeth [05/23/2012] - A-Cho: Elizabeth vs Akihiko (2) [05/23/2012] - A-Cho: Elizabeth vs Akihiko [05/18/2012] - Abeno E-su: Elizabeth vs Akihiko [05/10/2012] - LinLin: Elizabeth vs Akihiko [05/10/2012] - LinLin: Elizabeth vs Akihiko [05/04/2012] - SEGA Tougeki Qualifiers: Elizabeth vs Akihiko [05/04/2012] - Mokuyou E-su: Elizabeth vs Akihiko [04/29/2012] - Chou Tougeki Qualifiers: BLEED (Elizabeth) VS Domii (Akihiko) - Only shows last round. [04/27/2012] - Alpha Station: Koichi (Elizabeth) vs Ora (Akihiko) [04/25/2012] - Game Chariot: Shadow (Akihiko) vs Kaqn (Elizabeth) (Part 2) [04/20/2012] - Alpha Station: Sugi (Elizabeth) vs Ryourichou (Akihiko) [04/16/2012] - Pasopi Kamata: Elizabeth vs Akihiko [04/13/2012] - Abeno E-su: Akihiko vs Elizabeth [04/13/2012] - Abeno E-su: Akihiko vs Elizabeth [04/13/2012] - Abeno E-su: Akihiko vs Elizabeth [04/10/2012] - Amusement Park Nasa: Jack (Elizabeth) VS Kuroi Neko (Akihiko) [04/08/2012] - Sendai Kurisrodo: Kagura (Elizabeth) vs Ushitora (Akihiko) 1C.) vs Chie [05/31/2012] - Joikamu Tougeki Qualifiers: Chie vs Elizabeth [05/25/2012] - Kumamoto Tougeki Qualifiers: Neto (Chie) vs Aruka (Elizabeth) [05/24/2012] - Yagoto Tougeki Qualifiers: Masao (Elizabeth) vs Banbaban (Chie) [05/21/2012] - A-cho: Chie vs Elizabeth [05/18/2012] - Abeno E-su: Chie vs Elizabeth [05/17/2012] - Kouhatsu: Elizabeth vs Chie [05/10/2012] - GCom: Chie vs Elizabeth [05/09/2012] - Kouhatsu: Elizabeth vs Chie [05/08/2012] - Gulliver P1 GP: Chie vs Elizabeth [05/06/2012] - KVO: Aya (Elizabeth) vs Maron (Chie) [05/06/2012] - KVO: Efui (Elizabeth) vs Metal (Chie) [05/06/2012] - KVO: Haati (Chie) vs Takashi (Elizabeth) [05/06/2012] - Mizonokuchi Taito: Elizabeth vs Chie [05/06/2012] - Mizonokuchi Taito: Chie vs Elizabeth [05/04/2012] - SEGA Tougeki Qualifiers: Elizabeth vs Chie [04/21/2012] - Game Chariot: Keita (Chie) vs Shadow (Elizabeth) (2) [04/21/2012] - Game Chariot: Yumura (Chie) vs Shadow (Elizabeth) (2) (3) [04/17/2012] - LL Koiwa: Shadow (Elizabeth) vs Tetsu (Chie) [04/17/2012] - Minami Hachiman E-su: Chie vs Elizabeth [04/17/2012] - Minami Hachiman E-su: Chie vs Elizabeth [04/15/2012] - Mizonokuchi Taito: Tamamo (Chie) vs Onii (Elizabeth) [04/09/2012] - Kashiwa: Sen Me Ken (Elizabeth) vs Sensaina Meteo (Chie) [04/08/2012] - Sendai Kurisrodo: Kagura (Elizabeth) vs Kumagoro^ (chie) [04/06/2012] - Abeno E-su: Chie vs Elizabeth 1D.) vs Elizabeth [05/18/2012] - Abeno E-su: Liz Mirror [05/04/2012] - Mokuyou E-su: Elizabeth Mirror [05/04/2012] - Mokuyou E-su: Elizabeth Mirror [04/27/2012] - Alpha Station: Koichi (Elizabeth) vs Abare nnayo (Elizabeth) [04/25/2012] - Game Chariot: Shadow (Elizabeth) vs Kaqn (Elizabeth) (4 Matches) [04/21/2012] - Game Chariot: Shadow (Elizabeth) vs Joni (Elizabeth) 1E.) vs Kanji :ballKA: [05/22/2012] - Gameland Hanoaka: Kanji vs Elizabeth [05/21/2012] - A-cho: Elizabeth vs Kanji [05/19/2012] - GAME41: Kanji vs Elizabeth [05/06/2012] - Chiyoda RinRin: Elizabeth vs Kanji [05/06/2012] - KVO: Daichi (Elizabeth) vs Tetsu (Kanji) [04/25/2012] - Game Chariot: Joubutsu (Kanji) vs Kaqn (Elizabeth) [04/25/2012] - Game Chariot: Shadow (Kanji) vs Kaqn (Elizabeth) (4 Matches) [04/24/2012] - Yagoto: Elizabeth vs Kanji [04/21/2012] - Abeno E-su: Elizabeth vs Kanji [04/17/2012] - Fukushima Super Nova: Elizabeth vs Kanji [04/16/2012] - Amipara Tottori: Kanji vs Elizabeth [04/14/2012] - Ushirono: Kanji vs Elizabeth [04/14/2012] - SEGA Convention: Kanji vs Elizabeth (2) [04/13/2012] - Alpha Station: Kizaki (Kanji) vs Megidora (Elizabeth) [04/12/2012] - Kyaragetto Fukaya: Kyouzako (Kanji) vs. Secchan (Elizabeth) [04/08/2012] - Kashiwa: Uhiaha (Kanji) vs Sensaina Kami Te (Elizabeth) [04/06/2012] - Abeno E-su: Elizabeth vs Kanji 1F.) vs Labrys [05/18/2012] - Abeno E-su: Elizabeth vs Labrys [05/18/2012] - Abeno E-su: Elizabeth vs Labrys [05/09/2012] - Kouhatsu: Elizabeth vs Labrys [05/08/2012] - A-Cho: Elizabeth vs Labrys [04/27/2012] - Alpha Station: Kazuhira (Labrys) vs Abare nnayo (Elizabeth) [04/21/2012] - Game Chariot: Benishouga (Labrys) vs Shadow (Elizabeth) [04/21/2012] - Game Chariot: Benishouga (Labrys) vs Joni (Elizabeth) [04/20/2012] - Alpha Station: Koichi (Elizabeth) vs Reria (Labrys) [04/13/2012] - Abeno E-su: Elizabeth vs Labrys [04/12/2012] - Kyaragetto Fukaya: Hachi (Elizabeth) vs Shichigatsu Youka (Labrys) [04/08/2012] - Sendai Kurisrodo: Kagura (Elizabeth) vs Hoihoi (Labrys) [04/05/2012] - Nasa: Sakaya (Labrys) vs Jakku (Elizabeth) 1G.) vs Mitsuru [05/31/2012] - CharaGetGame: Elizabeth vs Mitsuru [05/17/2012] - Kouhatsu: Elizabeth vs Mitsuru [05/04/2012] - SEGA Tougeki Qualifiers: Elizabeth vs Mitsuru [04/29/2012] - Chou Tougeki Qualifiers: Koichi (Elizabeth) vs Mitsuru [04/27/2012] - Abeno E-su: Elizabeth vs Mitsuru [04/27/2012] - Alpha Station: Koichi (Elizabeth) vs Satochi (Mitsuru) [04/25/2012] - Abeno E-su Mokuyou: GO1 (Mitsuru) vs Elizabeth (2) [04/24/2012] - Yagoto: Murabito (Mitsuru) vs Elizabeth [04/24/2012] - Yagoto: Elizabeth vs Renta (Mitsuru) [04/21/2012] - Game Chariot: Gomikuzu (Mitsuru) vs Kaqn (Elizabeth) (4 matches) [04/20/2012] - Alpha Station: Koichi (Elizabeth) vs Shuuto (Mitsuru) [04/13/2012] - Abeno E-su: Mitsuru vs Elizabeth [04/13/2012] - Abeno E-su: Elizabeth vs Mitsuru [04/10/2012] - Nasa: Misakuraponkotsu (Mitsuru) vs Ken (Elizabeth) [04/08/2012] - Sendai Kurisrodo: Kagura (Elizabeth) vs Chika Sega Sei (Mitsuru) 1H.) vs Naoto [05/23/2012] - Ushirono: Naoto vs Elizabeth (2) [05/18/2012] - Abeno E-su: Naoto vs Elizabeth [05/18/2012] - Abeno E-su: Elizabeth vs Naoto [05/09/2012] - Kouhatsu: Elizabeth vs Naoto [05/06/2012] - Mizonokuchi Taito: Naoto vs Elizabeth [05/04/2012] - SEGA Tougeki Qualifiers: Naoto vs Elizabeth [05/04/2012] - Mokuyou E-su: Elizabeth vs Naoto [04/29/2012] - Abeno E-su: Naoto vs Elizabeth [04/27/2012] - Abeno E-su: Elizabeth vs Naoto [04/27/2012] - Abeno E-su: Elizabeth vs Naoto [04/25/2012] - Game Chariot: Shadow (Naoto) vs Kaqn (Elizabeth) (Part 2) [04/24/2012] - Yagoto: Naoto vs Elizabeth [04/17/2012] - Minami Hachiman E-su: Elizabeth vs Naoto [04/16/2012] - Pasopi Kamata: Naoto vs Elizabeth (2) (3) (4) 1I.) vs Shadow Labrys [05/12/2012] - Nakamurabashi Fun Factory: Elizabeth vs Shadow Labrys [05/04/2012] - Mokuyou E-su: Shadow Labrys vs Elizabeth [04/27/2012] - Abeno E-su: Elizabeth vs Shadow Labrys [04/21/2012] - Abeno E-su: Elizabeth vs Shadow Labrys 1J.) vs Teddie [05/25/2012] - Kumamoto Tougeki Qualifiers: Amane (Elizabeth) vs Anpan (Teddie) [05/23/2012] - Ushirono: Teddie vs Elizabeth [05/23/2012] - Ushirono: Elizabeth vs Teddie (2) (3) [05/23/2012] - Ushirono: Elizabeth vs Teddie [05/21/2012] - A-cho: Teddie vs Elizabeth [05/19/2012] - GAME41: Elizabeth vs Teddie [05/18/2012] - Abeno E-su: Teddie vs Elizabeth [05/10/2012] - GCom: Elizabeth vs Teddie [05/08/2012] - A-Cho: Elizabeth vs Teddie [05/06/2012] - Mizonokuchi Taito: Teddie vs Elizabeth [05/04/2012] - Mokuyou E-su: Teddie vs Elizabeth [04/25/2012] - Game Chariot: Joubutsu (Teddie) vs Kaqn (Elizabeth) (4 Matches) [04/17/2012] - LL Koiwa: Shadow (Elizabeth) vs Teddie [04/14/2012] - SEGA Convention: Teddie vs Elizabeth [04/06/2012] - Abeno E-su: Elizabeth vs Teddie 1K.) vs Yosuke [05/30/2012] - Okazaki Mise Tougeki Qualifiers: Masao (Elizabeth) VS Uozu (Yosuke) [05/25/2012] - Kumamoto Tougeki Qualifiers: Furu (Yosuke) VS Aruka (Elizabeth) [05/23/2012] - Tougeki Qualifiers: Yosuke vs Elizabeth [05/10/2012] - GCom: Elizabeth vs Yosuke [05/09/2012] - Kouhatsu: Elizabeth vs Yosuke [05/04/2012] - Mokuyou E-su: Elizabeth vs Yosuke [05/04/2012] - Mokuyou E-su: Yosuke vs Elizabeth [04/29/2012] - Chou Tougeki Qualifiers: Yosuke vs BLEED (Elizabeth) [04/27/2012] - Abeno E-su: Elizabeth vs Yosuke [04/23/2012] - Sannomiya Singles: Yosuke vs Elizabeth [04/20/2012] - Central Hachiouji: Yosuke vs Elizabeth [04/20/2012] - Central Hachiouji: Yosuke vs Elizabeth [04/17/2012] - LL Koiwa: Shadow (Elizabeth) vs Yosuke [04/16/2012] - Amipara Tottori: Yosuke vs Elizabeth [04/08/2012] - Sendai Kurisrodo: Mare (Yosuke) vs Kagura (Elizabeth) [04/06/2012] - Abeno E-su: Yosuke vs Elizabeth (2) 1L.) vs Yu [05/25/2012] - Kumamoto Tougeki Qualifiers: AKD (Yu) vs Ebi (Elizabeth) [05/23/2012] - Ushirono: Yu vs Elizabeth [05/21/2012] - A-Cho: Yu vs Elizabeth [05/19/2012] - GAME41: KDB (Yu) vs Elizabeth [05/18/2012] - Abeno E-su: Yu vs Elizabeth [05/10/2012] - GCom: Yu vs Elizabeth [05/08/2012] - A-Cho: Yu vs Elizabeth (2) (3) [05/08/2012] - Gulliver P1 GP: Yu vs Elizabeth [05/06/2012] - Chiyoda RinRin: Elizabeth vs Yu [05/05/2012] - Game Chariot: Naru (Yu) vs Kaqn (Elizabeth) (Part 2) [05/04/2012] - Mokuyou E-su: Elizabeth vs Yu [04/27/2012] - Abeno E-su: Elizabeth vs Yu [04/21/2012] - Game Chariot: Naru (Yu) vs Kaqn (Elizabeth) [04/20/2012] - Rin Rin 24: Yu vs Elizabeth [04/20/2012] - Central Hachiouji: Elizabeth vs Yu [04/20/2012] - Central Hachiouji: Yu vs Elizabeth [04/20/2012] - P1 GP Gulliver: Elizabeth vs Yu [04/17/2012] - Fukushima Super Nova: Yu vs Elizabeth [04/17/2012] - Fukushima Super Nova: Elizabeth vs Yu [04/17/2012] - LL Koiwa: Shadow (Elizabeth) vs Yu [04/13/2012] - Abeno E-su: Elizabeth vs Yu [04/13/2012] - Abeno E-su: Elizabeth vs Yu [04/12/2012] - Kyaragetto Fukaya: Jinkichi (Yu) vs. Secchan (Elizabeth) [04/10/2012] - Nasa: Mohikan Ichigou (Yu) vs Ken (Elizabeth) [04/10/2012] - Nasa: Mosa (Yu) vs Sensaina Kami Te (Elizbabeth) [04/06/2012] - Abeno E-su: Yu vs Elizabeth 1M.) vs Yukiko [05/24/2012] - Yagoto Tougeki Qualifiers: Masao (Elizabeth) vs Himajin (Yukiko) [05/21/2012] - A-Cho: Yukiko vs Elizabeth [05/08/2012] - A-Cho: Yukiko vs Elizabeth [04/27/2012] - Alpha Station: Koichi (Elizabeth) vs ho-chan/Stundedge (Yukiko) [04/13/2012] - Abeno E-su: Elizabeth vs Yukiko [04/08/2012] - Sendai Kurisrodo: Rin (Yukiko) vs Kagura (Elizabeth) [04/06/2012] - Abeno E-su: Elizabeth vs Yukiko

A-Cho http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qLIBQlye4E

A-Cho Tager vs Valkenhayn Bang vs Valkenhayn

The same applies to Maragidyne too (I think this is shown in the Liz mirror match i have in bold). Edit: Here

Discuss the beary irritable matchup here. Punishes: Anti-airing: Zoning: Their game plan: Strategy: Char specific details: Avoiding and punishing Teddie's unblockable setup (2)

Ah I thought I typed the rest of what I did ha. 214A/B/C (CH) will not work with that combo unfortunately.

Oh shi- look who just jumped in! Np man! Good to see ya!

Nishi Nippori 7/7/12 Supinoza (TS) vs Jippu (VK) Zekuso (VK) vs PRFARMY (HA) Zekuso (VK) vs Berudan (HA) Zekuso (VK) vs Mitsurugi (HZ)

Nishi Nippori 7/7/12 Supinoza (TS) vs Nosuke (PT) Supinoza (TS) vs Jippu (VK) Supinoza (TS) vs Yamachi (PT) U-San (BA) vs Supinoza (TS) Supinoza (TS) vs Mitsurugi (HZ)

You cannot connect 5C > 2C after the IAD j.CC in that combo because the P1 of 214A (214A as a combo starter), is horrible. The reason you're able to do it with 214D is because 214D is much better as a combo starter.

That's Airk! He hangs here often too. I'm glad this thread is useful for you.

Gulliver Valkenhayn vs Tager Valkenhayn vs Jin Valkenhayn vs Hakumen Valkenhayn vs Platinum Will update today.

Ok I'm fully done haha. To answer your question TD, so far we have this: AOA~D > 5A > 5C(2) > 2C > B.Bufu > SB.Zio > 2B > JB > JC > SB.Garu > JC [4000 DM] [50 SP] I believe there is a better combo than this. I'm gonna assume that she can use the Sweep > C.Garu x2 for more damage like you saw last time.

Just an update. The Elizabeth forums have made a full recovery now so feel free to browse whatever you like. I just need to make very little tweaks to the video thread and I'll be satisfied. Enjoy!

Does not need its own thread.

There isn't a difference between the two. Some people prefer to call it Persona 4 Arena whilst others like to call it Persona 4 Ultimate, but we are all talking about the same thing.

Luckily I remember a few. You have: -Garu > OMC > JA/2A mixup -SB.Agi > OMC > Mixup -Up close Zio (Any, but preferably SB) > Mixup While the opponent is frozen you also have mixup options without using heat (Think BB Jin when he freezes). It is especially effective in the corner, as you could go into 2D or drop combos for resets. For example: 2C > B.Zio > 5B > 5C(2) > 2C > B.Bufu > 2C > SB.Zio Ending here with SB.Zio would be good for the paralysis, but you have options when you have your opponent frozen. Personally, while they're frozen, I would do 2D > 5AA > Mixup (overhead, sweep reset since the combo will be heavily prorated, command grab etc). This is just an example of what I would do, and not only does the 2D helps to inflict poison, that next combo should either kill or leave them with very little HP. Not doing SB.Zio also prevents the heat cooldown.