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How is the discussion about Tagers overdrive and new moves that are specific to BBCP not something specific about BBCP?

startup invul is my favorite thing about overdrive http://tinypic.com/r/jsgemw/6 and this is why i love crush trigger http://tinypic.com/r/2eofgjl/6

Platinums nerfs are very good and i hope they all stay. Anyway here is a closer look at her counter: Plat counter

Can a mod please change the thread title from wishlist to changelist? Thanks. I tried to compile all the changes in the first post. ill add the rest of the videos to the first post later. Last couple of things from the videos. Eventhough AC has weaker pull off of the ground it has much stronger pull from out of the air. Watch this video to see the difference. AC mag Standing 5D is like Calamity Trigger 5D. There grounded so fast we better be able to cancel right into gadget and pull them back to us for a combo midscreen changed standing 5D New grounded counter hit 4D stagger. Does anyone know if CH 5D has chaned as well? new grounded CH 4D Example of gadgets majestic pull stronger gadget mag

The last bit of Tager stuff. Please translate and check this page to see if there is anything else important left. http://jbbs.livedoor.jp/bbs/read.cgi/game/45148/1345734856/

Here is a better look If they dont block crush trigger Crush trigger not blocking Thank god command grabs are still free after a guard crush Crush trigger guard crush

Just some enlarged video clips from the new vids. Overdrive freezes time. I cant believe we still dont know what upgrades overdive 720, MTW or TB has gotten. OD buffer 720 At first i thought it was terrible to give Tager his old CT 5D back untill i saw this combo. I hope 5D can cancel to gadget, since it grounds them, and pulls them back to us midscreen for a combo. 5D>Bsledge combo JD wallbounds and normal 4D wallbounds on air hit only. JD and 4D air hit wallbound Huge stagger if they dont block crush trigger Crush trigger not blocking Thank god command grabs are still free after a guard crush Crush trigger guard crush Spinning knockback and ground slide on air hit New air hit 2D Sucks about the 2nd collider in this combo AA spark combo

That should have been her regular ingame outfit.

There is alot more new Tager info now after the part you just translated on this page http://jbbs.livedoor.jp/bbs/read.cgi/game/45148/1345734856/l50 Please give it a look thanks!

A lot of 2nd test info for Tager starting at post #958 http://jbbs.livedoor.jp/bbs/read.cgi/game/45148/1339560817/l50

A lot of 2nd test info for Tager starting at post #958 http://jbbs.livedoor.jp/bbs/read.cgi/game/45148/1339560817/l50

It does look like tager steps toward first and hakumen steps toward second because if you look close you can see there feet moving forward. One thing i didnt notice before is Tagers Blue aura effect when he goes into overdrive. overdrive closeup They definitely need to make tagers overdrive better. They should make it auto pull people or make mag pull alot stronger like similar to unlimited CT Tager or something. Right now his overdrive sucks if mag is still useless against keep away chars like valk. Since they next location test on friday will have the new improved versions of super-moves while in overdrive implemented, what overdrive supers do you guys want tager to have? I want to have unlimited EX Tagers MTW with free TB, and CT unlimited Tagers GETB. Also its really stupid that many other chars gets brand new regular supers and Tager gets nothing. Tager should have a new super too or at least get stand alone unlimited EX Tagers TB as a new regular super. People were asking about AA sparks hitbox. Here is video that gives you an idea of AA sparks horizontal range AA spark

Thats why i asked about it in my other post. Then this part of the EX system guide is wrong?

I mean you do a techtrap and if they airtech jump and grab them as the are flashing and buster them out of their airtech. If your saying that air bustering them out of their airtech actually counts as a purple grab then just delay the buster to grab them immediately after they have airteched. 360C is invincible like 360A right?

But can't u already do something similar to that in the location test? According to the EX system guide: So doesn't that mean you can end any air techtrap with a free air buster and their is nothing they can do about it except burst if they have one?

Well its good to know that at least something still works after buster. From the vids it looks like they land much closer to you after GETB, i saw something on the jbbs about being able to use gadget after 720C. anyway here are some clips of the changed JD and 6C in case no one noticed them. Maybe we can do ground to air to ground combos with jD now with its longer untech time. At least it seems longer to me anyway but i havnt played BBEX in a little while. Hopefully the non bounce on grounded 6C hit somehow gives us better combos or something. Normal jump D Counter hit Jump D Normal 6C

I like Sparkryuken! Since they changed AC so much, any idea if you can do 2 AC in a combo again like CS2 without them teching early like in EX?

I wish firefox had Isuna web translator! Mori this better mean you gona make sure no one can lame out Tager anymore with keep away time out bullcrap!!!!

Maybe after collider you need to do an air combo instead of a ground combo? Would something like magnetized 5c>6a>3c>AC whiff>5b>5c>6a>2c>AC>jC>jD>Grand Punish work?

Something important you didnt mention about the interview that i saw from using microsoft bing translator(which to me gives better translations than google translate)

Dont wory the info you did get is great. Wow thats terrible, and i thought waiting in line at sand diego comicon was bad. I hope that is the case. Did any of tagers moves seem faster and did his damage seem any lower or higher?

Thank you so much for all your work we are all extremely grateful for this information! Yes this is exactly what i meant. seems like it works just like i hoped it would. These things are dissapointing to hear though

Yes i meant by using crush trigger to guard crush your opponent. Also check these few other things too if its possible Are crush triggers rapid cancelable? Did they make any improvements to Voltic hammer counter attack? Was spark bolt given any startup invincibility? Does 6As super armor start up earlier than before? Can you still combo after a 360? Can you do gadget after landing 720C or Grand Punish? Thanks you so much for all of your efforts Valthazeryus and Isuna! Edit - oh i didnt realize you already answered my post in the general thread before i made this one I noticed something in the tager vids. In the vid vs hakumen Normal Jump D has way more untech time now. Looks like plenty of time to land and AC or Spark before they can tech out. In the vid vs platinum you can see counter hit jump D knocks them down all the way across to the bottom corner of the screen. You can also see that 6C doesn't bounce them up off the ground unless they are in the air when hit.

Valthazeryus and Isuna when u guys try tager again can you test any of the following things if possible? Check if command grabs are still untechable after a guard crush. Tell us about tagers overdrive. Does it also make the magnetism alot stronger? Is Magnetism no longer useless trying to pull in valk or hazama out of the air? Can you buffer 720 from overdrives invincibles startup? Are crush triggers rapid cancelable? Did you find tagers moves to be faster when you played it or does it just look that way in the videos? Check if they gave tager back his voltic charge 720 counter attack that he had in the final arcade version of extend but was removed later in a patch. Did they made any improvements to Voltic hammer counter attack? Was spark bolt given any startup invincibility? Does 6As super armor starts up earlier than before? Can you still combo after a 360? Can you combo into or out of grand punish? Thanks alot for everything u guys are doing for us!

There is a little bit of new info on jbbs about a new combo and something about combo rate. Im on my phone and can't paste it. Can someone check it out.