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Let me clear myself up; the change was that moves that normally levitate the opponent higher on hit lose that ability during Valiant Charger. The best 2 examples at this given time are j.C and Growler, it seems that drive moves remain untouched like they have always been. That change might (MIGHT) have cost us dual weak point valiant combos (because j.C doesn't work like used to) but in return we got an unburstable Valiant combo, which is the one where you use Growler over and over again. The change to Growler itself had nothing to do with it because it used to have invulnerability frames followed up by "absorbing" frames so the effect would have been the same but in 1.1 during charger Growler sends them flying like it does normally (+ you can't cancel Growler if you use it during Charger), thus no possibility to follow Growler up with another Growler. You can test this yourself by trying to do the Valiant Growler combo in 1.1. It seems Cobra still levitates them at little higher at the corner. 22C & 214C Sentinels both seem to have a longer startup. Sucky

First I thought the valiant change (all attacks wallstick) was a nerf but... skip to 42:32

I wish 5BB had a slight vacuum effect so connecting 2D & general pressure would be easier~

It's the new float glitch, BBCP 2.01 much?

So is Celica's 2-hit tripping confirmed to be high-low? I think that's pretty sad gameplay-wise as well as canonically that Celica has better mixup than Terumi...

on counter that is never mind, 0:40 it works without counter, you have to be pretty close tho, wonder if 5BB 3D still gatlings 3:20 wakeup scud catches hazama meaty 2A, nicee~ http://youtu.be/-JBytnySNYc?t=41s here you can see leopard wallstick in use, 2:50 scud used

in the video there was that valiant growler showcase

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrsWN7pMjDM&feature=youtu.be Azrael in 1:33:00, 1:47:00, Gustaf buff seems to have stayed

Not sure but basically no more Valiant Hornet dual weak point stuff, normally/in 1.1 during Charger j.C launches the opponent upwards (like here) but in 2.0 that doesn't happen anymore ( ). Only Cobra seems to levitate them higher a little. You can try it out yourself with multiple Growlers in 1.1.

From the video I'd say TCL > RC > 22C is possible They showed those because Valiant was changed, attacks won't launch anymore/launching attacks wallstick during charger (not sure about drive moves). Just look at j.C and Growler

No mention of Scud's startup either

*looks at Tsubaki changes* Are you guys happy now!?

In those examples ODR seems to have some recovery so you can't just cancel any move into it to punish, cpu Ragna did the Hell's Fang follow-up even though the first hit was OD canceled.

I need help against Jin, I feel naked in this match-up.

Don't forget the OD: even at full health in the corner he can easily get a 4k combo anywhere on the screen. Cancel-OD throw counters anyone?

There's the discussion thread for these things bros. Welcome, this thread is kinda empty because Azrael's combos didn't really change much between 1.0 & 1.1 so the stuff in combo thread 1.0 is still viable, I'm pretty sure you'll find those combos you posted (alongside with countless other ones) there.

You can play any character with or without their drive, differences in performance can be pretty big tho

Don't mash, I used to play Tsubaki and learning links was awkward.

Thank you Bang's OD theme song nerf is crap

corner [HP < 50%][100%] 623D > 236C > 236C , 623C > 236C > RC > OD > j.623D > 236C > 214D, j.623C > RC > 623C/D Puzzle: with Ragna, execute a combo that does EXACTLY 3500 damage. Hint: 623D > 236C > 214D > ...

Yeah, dead spikes are more common but that one time with carnage scissors will haunt me for the rest of my life If I understood your post correctly that is.

It's nice when I try to dp and carnage scissors comes out Perhaps I should practice inputs more often

^ easily proven with Azrael j.2C, has actives 'till landing but height makes a difference if you wish to blue beat pickup lazy techs.

You guys think every character has received guerrila-buffs to their OD DD damage? That Hazama is just ridiculous.

Are you guys talking about GH followup or ID followup?