Dark Ranger88

Wow I was gonna do this when I got off work, but you guys took care of business. Kudos. And about using 'first hit only,' Be careful because the dummy will also get hit by attacks that leave a gap large enough to be poked out of. If you think you've discovered a frametrap in training mode, you should make sure using the frame data.

Hmm...I'll see what I can do about the language problem just give me a little bit. I wonder if this is a common thing?

To know if there is a frame gap in between two attacks you look at 2 things: 1.) Blockstun of the first attack - Blockstun is determined by the attack's level. If you are on the dustloop wiki then go to the offense (In system explanation/mechanics) section at the very bottom of the page there should be a chart for each level attack and its blockstun. 2.) The startup of the followup attack. If the startup is 1 - 4 frames longer than the blockstun of the first move then it is considered a frame trap because it will beat out the fastest jabs (5 frames). You could also go into training mode, record a string and try to mash out of it. Let me know if you have any further questions or if I did not explain it well enough.

Awww...Thanks for clearing that up dude. But I'll keep trying to find more crazy shit. Mark my words: I will find a way to cross up with Makoto that isn't IAD Gold Burst lol.

Thanks for the tips Star! That shit works! lol Anyways, I have another question: How did this person do this / does this still work? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQyUif8wBq4 I left a comment on the video, but I don't know how to PM people on Youtube so I can't ask him directly. T.T tech fail. I tested it myself for a bit but I can't get it right...If it does work though it would make a nice trick...hehehe

Yes GoldChampion...just be patient... One day Makotos will rule over all once again! Wahahahahaahhaahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!! :Seriously though: GGs to Angel of Hope and I forget the other guy

GGs to Quiet Wraith and Argent Zero...One of these days I'll start winning.

One of my roommates had this game for no reason and he asked everyone to play it with him one day. At first I thought the game was okay because I liked the style and it was anime. I used Ragna vs his Jin and was like, "Meh...I probably won't be playing this game a lot sorr l ARROWS OF ICE l Holy Crap! What was that?" My friend: It's his distortion. Everyone has special attacks you can do once you get 50 heat. Then we went into training mode and he showed me everyone's astral. Holyshitthisisawesome. From that day forward it was my mission to hit as many people with distortions and astrals as I possibly could. The best feeling in the world is still when you flick the stick around quickly at the end of a long combo to tack on a round ending distortion.

I don't...ehhh...know if this is the right place for this (since I don't have a video), but: What do you guys do about green bursts? I haven't baited a burst ever, and I'm tired of people having a "get out of jail free card." I want to punish them dearly for no respect bursts, but whenever I see them coming it's too late and my whiffed attack gets me sent flying across the screen. Are there certain moves/ combo paths that are burst safe or do you just react to the burst and block it? Also how to you know when a burst is coming: i.e. is it just yomi or is there some kind of startup you can react too? Getting bursted on is annoying enough against most people, but it can be deadly versus zoners like Lambda. Plz holp.

GGs FiddyFour, Shadow Impulse, Shy Link and Badlime (Still don't know if you are supposed to give GGs to people not on Dustloop lol) Gotta love that Tsubaki and Makoto double down pose And mad ups to your stylish pregame text messages lime (I liked the preview btw)

@ Freezama, Quiet Wraith, & Gungnir94 - GGs. @ Freezama - I happen to recall your Relius doing work. @Quiet Wraith - Gotta love that Tsubaki v Makoto intro @Gungnir94 - ...um...I don't know if you are on the forums... Edit: Let's play again sometime.

I wasn't thinking one match and IAD'd over an Arakune midscreen wakeup. I ate an ass kamehameha.

Added a new throw gimmick and a little j2C fuzzy guard setup. I only use the fuzzy on normal sized characters though. I have to test it out to see how it works with Tager, Haku, Carl, and Plat though.

GGs Eevee, Chickzama, SCAM 4 LIFE (geez), and all others.

Makoto Nanaya: OS, Trick, Gimmick, and Setup Guide Borrowing shamelessly from LuminAbyss's guide... In this thread, you can post any Gimmicks (things like cross-ups or rapid cancel tricks) Non-ordinary Cancels Option Selects (whether they be in block strings or a part of your okizeme game) Any other tricks you've done that you feel are worth sharing. The ones who originally discovered/shared the information will be credited with their username in brackets after the name of the gimmick. I will be sure to update the opening post often and regularly. And remember, there is NOTHING to silly or specific to be put into this guide! To understand some of the abbreviations used in this guide: CH = Counter Hit FC = Fatal Counter JC = Jump Cancel JCC = Jump Cancel Cancel HJC = High Jump Cancel DC = Dash Cancel (X) = Hold Input ---------- 5A Throw Trap OS [Exciel]: 5A > B~C/C~B. This one's godlike. Other characters can do it too so long as you have a 5A that whiffs crouch so it also doesn't work against Hakumen or Tager. If 5A hits/blocked, 5A cancels into 5B or 5C depending on your input. If 5A whiffs (because your opponent is crouching), will instead kara throw. This beats stuff like wake up jump, wake up throw, wake up OS tech, wake up cat chair, etc. But of course loses to wake up dp qq Makoto-Style Jayoku OS [Exciel]. Should be well known by now but in any case, 21421(4)D~A+B in corner after a correctly timed coroner upper or another downer. If they didn't roll you get 4D kara canceled into barrier, if they roll it will be regestired as 236236D. This is also sort of an OS too. After a good timed corona upper, 2B > 236236D really fast. If they didn't tech then 2B should hit and cancel into PF but if they do tech then 2B whiffs if you did it fast enough. OS Tager Backstep PF Punish [Exciel]: Dash in 5A > 2362365B~D. Does work on other characters but for what it's worth, should probably be only tried on a backdash happy Tager. Even then beware of IB 720. If he gets hit/blocks 5A then 5B will come out. If he backstepped, PF will come out and you can pretty much always get the punish if it's level 2 or the quickest level 3 possible. [Without meter you can also do the Wakeup Reversal Bait (listed below). If you see 2/5A whiff, then hit Tager as he lands with 5A or 5C for the punish. 720 will still make you cry though.] -Exciel's original post here - Wake-Up Reversal Bait [Rokunaya]: A universal game OS, but still very useful to know. When an opponent emergency or neutral techs after a knock down input: 2A > (1)B or 2A > 5 > (4)B or 2A > 6B > (4) This OS works to bait slow reversals with invincibility (like Jin's C DP). Should they decide to attempt any of these, your 2A will whiff, and you will immediately begin blocking after the recovery, which will give you enough time to block the reversal. Should your 2A hit, you will perform either 5B, 2B or whatever option you choose, and can go into a nice punish combo or pressure. You can wait until they neutral tech before throwing out the 2A so that if they roll instead you can chase them. Note: This works especially well with Makoto because her jab has the quickest recovery in the game. Here is a list of all reversals that can be beaten with the 2A > (1)B option select: Amane: Drill Reversal Super Azrael: Growler Field(DP), Scud Punishment(DD), Patriot Apocalypse(AH) Bullet: Cutting Shear(DP), Hard Kill Bringer(AH) Jin: C DP, D DP, Ice Arrows(DD), - Note: LOSES to Yukikaze(DD) Kokonoe: Teleport, SuperBall, Tager Laser Litchi: Tsubame Gaeshi(DP), Thirteen Orphans(DD), All Terminals(DD) Platinum: Magical Bat(Both versions), Cure Dot Typhoon(DD) Relius: Req Vinum(Gear DD), Altar of the Puppet(AH) Tsubaki: Benedictus Rex(DP, both versions), Confutatis Maledictis(DD), Requiem Aeternam(AH) Valkenhayn: Sturm Wolf(DD), Blut Vollmond(AH) v-13: Calamity Sword(DD) See the original post here. OS Parry [OmniSScythe]: During a cross up input back then forward and you'll either parry or block the cross up. Tager! Where Ya Lookin' Brah? [Dark Ranger88]: A character specific cross up. If you do the C version of Asteroid Vision anywhere inside max 5B range you will fly over Tager, making it possible to hit him with a cross up j.C. For the j.C to hit you have to input it slightly after Makoto reaches the apex of C Asteroid Vision. It works whether Tager is crouching or standing, but from max distance you won't cross up if he is standing. On hit or block you can land > 5A to either combo or continue pressure. However 2C will wreck you, so be wary. You can bait 2C by doing 214C > j.A (whiff) > barrier. Aerial Throw Resets [Dark Ranger88 + StarGazer]: If you can predict how your opponent will tech, there are many ways to reset them into throws. For example... After a corner combo or 214A-C-B, instead of doing the air combo finisher you can do, 5CC > HJC > .jA (delay) > 9B+C. If they forward or backward tech in the air (even midscreen) you'll grab them for 2k or like 5k if you have meter. You can even wait for the tech-flash before you jump and still get them. After 623CD >if the opponent decides to delay wake up > otg him with 2B > if he air techs backward > dash jump grab him Another thing you can do is after a Corona ender delay the meteor dive so that the opponent is above you when you hit them. If Meteor Dive is level 1 or 2 then you can rapid and grab really quickly. If they were anticipating a lvl 3 and trying to tech you can catch then off guard with a grab. (Similar to Tager Gadget Finger RC scumbag purple throws). j2C Fuzzy Guard Setup [Dark Ranger88]: In pressure after a j2C you can RC > jB > 2B. If they blocked the j2C standing the jB will hit them followed by the 2B making it a pretty hard mixup to block. Most good players will try to punish you after j2C, so this will make them think twice before pressing buttons. Doesn't work on shorter characters. 2 Ways to Cross Under! [Goldchampion200 + Dark Ranger88]: After Stargazer midscreen, you can either do Eclipse turn or 66 2A to cross up their neutral tech. Auto 6C Hitconfirm OS [Exciel]: 5C > 6C. In a situation where a 6C is necessary, when throwing out a 5CC instead input 5C > 6C. On block 5CC comes out, on hit 5C 6C comes out. example: an opponent is over anticipating overhead and not blocking low, 2A > 2A > 5B > 2B (hits) > 5C > 6C etc. j.C -> j.B/j.CC OS: j.CB~C [Exciel]. I don't really have a use for this but it does exist. When throwing out j.C randomly, follow up with B~C. On hit/block you cancel into the better j.B but on whiff it cancels to j.CC. Ghetto air tech shenanigans? Pseudo Cross-up [Dark Ranger88: After a close range 6A or on your opponent's wakeup, doing a quick double jump forward will cause Makoto to turn around in midair. This will turn j.C into a cross-up instead of having it face away from your opponent. Most people don't expect cross-ups from Makoto, so this will catch people who remain crouching and try to 2A/2B you upon landing. Planet Crusher Whiff [Goldchampion200] Astral whiff > Whatever you want usually grab in my case. When you can use it is limited to your distance against the opponent with lvl 3 working best when both players are near the edge of the screen I find the best success is against zoners like Lambda since its usually quite the chore to get in close and this is basically an I'm gonna get up in your face button. i honestly think you should never do this unless you plan to end the match with it or if your completely confident in your ability to win once you get close to your opponent since if you miss you will be left without a burst (or no burst if its the last one) and without any heat quite the gamble but very satisfying when it works. ---------- If I didn't explain something right or you want to add something just post below and I'll update the original post. Happy low tier-ness everyone! Lawl

GGs Argent Zero. Learned how to block Arakune's mixup during curse...that is until I get guard crushed and eat 8k

GGs Nemesis and Badlime...Sorry for leaving so abruptly. The guy whose Xbox I play on wanted to have sex, so I had to leave. It would have been wrong to put BlazBlue in the way of someone else's intercourse. Anywho I do like playing people who are really good, I just have to remember to cockblock my roommate before I start playing. Edit: Oh and you don't have to just use lambda against me. I need experience against the entire cast lol

I want in on this too! I've been busy with lots of school lately; my tonfas are thirsty for BLOOD!!! Let's make this Monday at 6 thing legit.

If you're still doing this then I want some FT 10's too. I'm available on the weekends or anytimes after 5pm on the weekdays.

Wait...I use the analog stick on Xbox. Do most of you guys use the pad?

Holy Crap!!! I've never played Toan before! I always imagine everything he writes in his avatar's voice, and it's hilarious. In a good way. Hit me up Toan if you're ever on XBox Oh and I get the same IIIII Jin IIIII vibe from Baiken Blue...Do any of you know if these are the same person, because Baiken Blue also hates me for dodging ice too much.

Hmmm? He might not be the perfect player, but you have to admit his good at least. Plus I need all the practice against Lambda I can get. He's always been nice to me, sure the corpse beating is a little annoying, but no hate mail. I've even perfected him. If you want hate mail and BGs then you want to play IIIIII Jin IIIIIIII.

W-w-w-Wait...What did I just do. I don't wanna get kicked off the forums already...Do we hate Pisces or something????

GGs Pisces Albslfrlalkiclala

Thanks for the answer Skeletal. I would like to play with some of you guys that I haven't faced yet. I wanna see how good all da doodz on this forum are. Oh and Toan...I'll play with anyone (come at me bro)