NecroTheReaper

5A can beat out his grab DD on the ground and j.A can beat out his air grab DD if it becomes active beforehand. His grab will beat j.A out of startup though, since it has only 3 startup frames after superflash. I have yet to see any bang players use his grab (then again, there aren't a ton of bangs), so unless its being used for a gimmicky reset, you should almost always be able to beat out his grab with A

You can only have 1 move before the 236C sadly. Its a tough confirm, but worth it. Yes, if you feel more comfortable with 3C starters, its still possible for like 200 less damage. If you have more than 1 move, 2C>6C>214A has always seemed to drop. And yes, Ignis needs to protect that sexy face of hers, so why 4D doesnt have head autoguard like her daughter, idk.

Speaking of crossups, since our AA isn't any sort of reliable of the opponent is flat on our face, how do you deal with those slow, should be punishable crossups? Drives me insane when I can see them slowly jumping over my head but don't know what I can do about it since switching sides takes a while but don't know how to punish. Edit: you can also crossup with the regular midscreen combo by doing j.B>662C>6C>41236B>66B

After a few rounds with someone I played vita Ex with, yeah, its noticeable. Not for each amd every player, no, but I had a 2 bar connection and it was like watching an in progress Tim Burton film. He kept putting it on random though, which wasnt helping either.

Anyway, away with failure, one success Ive had is 22B+2D oki after a midscreen j.214B ender. Seems to cover all bases except -maybe- no tech. Mostly used it yesterday with a few matches against Errol's Rachel

Well either the ai is just stupid or I cant get it to work on myself ._. I can block low and make the second j.C wiff fairly easily.

It builds about 30 heat back, so with 50 heat you'll have enough for both the CT and DD

Good point. I just hate having to rely on playback functions to test stuff xD. I was tryin to find a more versatile fuzzy since j.B>dj.C>j.2D>j.B wiffs on a lot of the cast if not done perfectly. Falling j.C>rising j.C has some strict timing (you really have to delay as much as possible) but it worked more frequently.

Can you also help me with my question from earlier about if falling j.C>microdash>rising j.C is an actual fuzzy IOH or if the ai is just stupid?

Random twirls in neutral and doll punches were failed baiting/punishing attempts aimed at projectiles and wind dashes. All was just to get you to waste wind really lol, didn't work as planned obviously xD;

Well Relius doesn't have instant mix-up like Rachel, and usually when I tried to do more tricky mixups, you either blocked or got me with 2C/6A.

Ggs to Errol, Fatalis, and anyone else I fought today. Hope things were a bit more entertaining this time Errol xD. Last time I did ok for like 4 matches before getting stomped 20 times in a row. Felt like it was much more even this time. So many bursts ley'd and I think I only did somethin with it like twice.

I FINALLY IN LEGIT WAYS PASSED THE 7K MARK @.@ granted it took no work at all since the combo path is the same as the 6.9k path. Just start.the combo off with lauger. I think raw lauger should be your punisher if you have OD and at least 25 heat. Without DD it still does like 5.8-6k damage. Tested blocking dp's and bursts (or leying) and you should recover fast enough to use raw lauger. Just thought it was interesting lol.

Idk, I enjoyed Extend. Gettin that punish for 6k with no meter always felt amazing. Matches were shorter, which is kinda funny since the game was slower.

So, 2C>6C for best frametrap ever? You get soooo many fc's, and typically people dont react to pressure reset leis afterwards. Sometimes they wvwn get FC'd or AUB'd from it as well. Anyway, how much blockstun does j.B give? Frame data page has an error of it having the exact same values as j.C. mostly curious since j.B has more active frames and hits crossup plus sets up perfectly for 2C>6C on air hit, so I was wonderin why meaty j.C is preferred over meaty j.B

Ggs to player lobby. Lag needs a nerf -_- I dropped 2 game winning combos because of lag. Also, my ceiling fan needs a buff, Ark, can you take care of this? xD

They didnt need to make 214D~A + on block though from Ex to CP. He had safe normals before, now what purpose is there in 236D if it accomplishes the same thing cept MAYBE against people with a DP. As much as I don't like agreeing with Airk, I'm agreeing with all of what he said xD.

I 100% agree xD Ggs to that Bang/Ragna player. Blew me up as bang, but that ragna had the most predictable bursting patterns. Corner hit>lauger>led ley>win

Dont worry about terribleness, I have my bad days and my baaaaaaaaaaaad days. I just wish I was cool enough to reach pink someday -cry-

Since you're already use to charge inputs, I personally find Kagura really fun to use. He has one of the best DP's (even though its a charge move) and his more basic combos my bro could even do on his 2nd week of playing. Of course, you'd have to unlock him through story mode or pay like $2 to unlock him instantly. Not the most mobile of characters though

I only have the jp version, which doesn't have this issue oddly enough. Doesn't sound like tok big of a problem though, and it'll probably be fixed by a soft patch eventually. Still, you make it sound like Rel gets hit and goes "Sister!" xD Edit: btw, whoever edited the relius wiki, I love you xD no longer is it awkward and incomplete.

Well there's only a few stages that don't contribute to lag, like 3 or 4 of em. Music doesn't matter, but I don't think people like going through the stage selection to find that one stage that may or may not screw with lag.

I dunno if this is what he was doin, but it felt like this guy equated beating me to getting to take my station. I go back and he uses the X emoticon and just sits there. I finally just left, but felt kinda dickish even if thats not what he was doin.

Ooooh, ok. Gonna have to test that, cuz usually if I blue bar, I just end tje combo early and rely on A mash and leis gimmicks until shes back to normal

What do you mean by blue-barred? As for a 4D optimal combo, I'd say the usual path is about as optimal as you get without using OD. With OD, if you recover soon enough to CT after 4D hits, you can get 5.9k by goin 4D>CT>5B>5C(1)>j.5C>j.8D>dj.OD>j.5C>j.8D>j.236C>j.214B>5B>2C>6C>214A<(214B~3C)>632146D 4.8k without Tedo. Regular combo ends with 22A for 3500 exact. If you want you're usual 3C oki, you have to do 4D>2C>6C>41236B>5B/C>236C>214A>66B>tk236C>3C for 3103 damage and 22 heat Edit: if you mean no-tech, you cant 100% beat it. Thats the risk involved with smp resets. If they aren't payin attention, you xould air grab them after they do tech, but its still avoidable.