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I'd say Mu has more consistent damage, and Koko has higher max damage.

Pretty much. I feel her worst trait is lack of rushdown/pressure options. Like Platinum, the second she commits to using a C move, she is publicly saying she's done pressuring you and will be returning to zoning/spacing. Top tier characters don't do this (Tao, Valk, Hazama, Koko, Litchi)

My thoughts exactly, although since they already nerfed her combo rate, her overall damage even with current revolver action would be lowered. With new graviton, it's lowered even more (raw activate combos/confirms). And with the alterations to Revolver Action, it will be even lower regardless. It's safe to say that she has been hit pretty significantly already, barring they reveal that 6B is now only comboable on CH or with Rapid, that 5B/5C are no longer JCable, that j.C/6B/6A have SMP etc... I'd say we're looking at a generally pretty terrible nerf here. =/ 236D not having a hit box is the biggest nerf, but maybe it will still have a hitbox if they're already blocking? Who knows. If that's the case, I can deal with that, although Lambda and Mu are going to be hellish to deal with.

That's because with the current information that's known about her changes, she seems pretty nerfed already. She may not be bottom tier because we don't know how badly they're hitting her RA, but with only a few changes, she'll be lacking in pressure/combo options. The Devs decided she needed something else (probably a fullscreen punish?)

autoguarding sounds ridiculous. You'd only have to react to CTs and throws at that point. I wonder if there isn't a character that is better in stylish? (Looking at you, Makoto)

You never fail to show up when it gets mentioned. But yes, I would love to play F/UC now that I know my Caster infinites and loops.

YC's? D= I hate being poor.

Lots of characters have this problem. Any pressure string still gives him good pressure, and it's not like j.2D isn't a threat when it will build him meter. I don't care if it's akin to landing a 2A as a starter, that's good shit consider you'll probably get 50-60 meter from the confirm. Terumi's mixup is bad, yes, but his pressure is strong; get your opponent to fidget, land dem hits, and laugh. Can he Kara his throw? I'm thinking maybe 6B or 6C to kara will help.

He sounds perfectly balanced. Instead of willingly using meter to give yourself a disadvantage (lolol) why not use meter for stronger mixups? Do shit like 5C(1) > RC > j.B. Jesus! Meter isn't just about tacking on damage.

Why? I spent 50 meter on it. Work around it. I'm still punishable. Anyway, reading the famitsu article, I think I read that Unlimited characters will be available in the arcade version but "They probably won't be allowed during event mode... (high certainty, meaning tournaments) Since Unlimited characters will be in the arcade version, will they be tournament legal for us? :v

Fairly accurate. Those DPs are pretty dumb and you can HC into air chase for knockdown. Heart is straight up dumb, though. I still have more of a problem dealing with ID, but maybe I'm just bad. :v

Super ball. :v

This is for wakeup/DP. Pressure options, just jump + 5D overhead pressure (I hate you Weiss). Again, I might have a lopsided opinion; Elfriede 5C meaties have spoiled me.

I don't think this is all the changes for the game; Amane/Makoto weren't mentioned and I think they need a bit of love. I think they should tweak a bit more, and should loketest. I have no idea why they aren't going to loketest this shit.

ID catches most characters' backdashes, F-Nanners does not. And nah; doing half health meterless as a punish is better than Blaz punishes. In terms of AH, just 4D that shit on reaction and laugh as they fall uselessly to the ground for hilarious pressure options. AH defensive options are the easiest thing to bait if you know what you're doing, it's kind of silly. (I play Liese, though; doll 5C/5B to punish is kind of silly. Take what I say with a grain of salt.)

F-Nanner's DP is easier than ID to deal with. wat.

There really is a difference between tiers and a large tier disparity.

I did. It's "busy" so to speak. =P I'm good now.

Ruben seems pissy today. I wonder why. No worries, though. I'll keep dealing with the tier disparity. :v Don't forget the 5C pushback, so now I can't 5C > Swallow Moon pressure anymore. That leaves me with 0 mixups/pressure options.

Bitch please, you know I'm all talk. :v And I AM dealing with it; it's called Kokomoe. It's just disheartening. And no, she lost damage in exchange for [2]8C. :v I love getting 3.3k max in the corner off a raw bubble (was 6k in EX).

Probably. I played Platinum in EX and while I wasn't the best, I wasn't bad and I would still be able to beat people. Now, I can't do shit because they nerfed her (why would they...? D=) And so I pick Litchi, who I know less for and I win simply because she's better; she has better pressure, neutral, damage, easier confirms etc... I win more with Litchi because she's good. And then I play Kokonoe and the effort just slips away! =D Easier confirms, better everything, and better space control options.

Is it just me or does everyone else feel the huge disparity in the tiers for BB? I love losing simply because I picked a worse character.

Honestly for Kokonoe, I think if Blackhole prorated like a bitch, 22B took longer to recharge, Graviton meter went down more, and combo damage drops (probably 6B SMP), she'd be fine. Platinum needs a damage buff as well. Goddamn. Or at least revert the pushback of her 5C on block to EX 5C.

The problem isn't her 7-3s.

I don't think the move should be banned as it still has applications midscreen, but I think the corner setup that is infallible should be. I completely agree that 8k in the corner that can't be dealt with is a problem. I'm all for just banning the unblockable corner setup. =P