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I need to do that. Hell, I need to do that with pretty much every character.

This. I need to fight good Bang players. I haven't really had trouble with any so far, and I KNOW I'm going to need to know this match-up better.

I know this goes in match-ups, but I just thought I would say: I hate fighting Hakumen. And Rachel. And stupid-ass Litchi. At least online, for the first two. Seriously, those characters are made to rape with laagzz, and Carl is all liek "ONOES, I DROPPED MY LOOP AND DID A RANDOM JUMP C! I DIIIIIIIIED", or something like that. Then I cry. Also, the fact that Haku's counter super is completely unblockable displeases me. If I let him get the meter for it, I can't use Nirvana to bait him. He just counters, and I diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeee. Litchi is just a straight up hooker, though. That srk is waaaaaaaaaaay better than I thought it was, her j.b makes me saaaaaaaad, and I'm still trying to wrap my mind around blocking up instead of crouching. Bawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww On the plus side, Carl's mix-ups aren't even fair. Like, seriously, wtf? :D! Also, I did a stupid combo. I can't really remember it, but it was like... 3C [CH] jc> j2c allecan>3C xx gear super It was dumb, but untechable, and won the match. Goooooooo Carl! Carl is too much fun when you're gone,srsly.

Map D to a shoulder button. Seriously. Either that, or start playing claw style. ...Or buy a stick. >_>

A lot of Tagers boot me. =(

Heyyyyyyyyyyy Are there gonna be vids from SBO? Or any Kyaku/Mecha-Sue stuff? MS is my faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaavourite, but Kyaku is good shit. Or generally just good vids that Autonomous doesn't have up?

Does anyone have any idea what causes characters to plummet sometimes after teching the grab and getting clapped? It's seriously ruining my resets, and just started happening to me a day or two ago. Is making me saaaaaaad. EDIT: We should rename this thread. IZZY ASKS PEOPLE HOW TO PLAY THE DAMN GAME!

Is it just me, or is this match-up really fun to watch? I like playing it, too; but, my experience is limited. Some things to note: Do NOT set your robot up to take damage unless you're going to get something off it (pretty common sense, but seems to be a top priority most times I see this match-up). Never, ever get separated from your robot. This can mean a loop that goes into your death VERY easily. Plus, it's hard for Carl to safely avoid his own pressure strings, once set up. Umm... stick to quick pokes? Most of this match-up seems to just be solid Carl playing. Anyone wanna point out where I'm wrong/add stuff to this post?

DVDR? Is capture card, or no?

I do. Maybe I need to do it for longer. D: EDIT! Ah, makes sense. I'll hafta mess around with that some today. Thanks!

Thanks. I got that part down now. Still working on the second 6a reset, though. I'm having a hard time getting Nirvana to space right for 6a to combo to clap again. D: Also, can do Ragna's, but not till death unless they tech once. I keep falling too low. D: Changed the Hakumen loop, too. I do 5b, 5c, 6]d[, j.c, 5b, 6b, 623c+2]d[>[2c+8d]*3>throw loop attempt I can't get j.2c to link into 5b. D:

Whut? (Tell me more)*2

I dunno. I'm just enveloping her in the circle. I dunno how well it works if they dun tech. Haven't tested it or anything. EDIT: Sooooooooo I watched the vid of Carl vs Rachel that AutonomousR posted 2 days ago. Two really neat tricks: 1) j.2c alle-can to kill George 2) sj>summon>dj = safe approach that brings Nirvana closer, chicken block.

LOLOLOL WE CAN ROLL THROUGH JIN'S SWORD SUPER! LOLOLOL

I keep messing up the 6a reset vs Jin/Tao. Like... I connect with 6a>d, and I jc, but I can never seem to grab at the right height or something. Pointers? Links?

Hey, has anyone aside from me had luck catching her outta her wind when she breaks the clap? I get her really deep in Nirvana, release the clap+grab, and when she techs and tries to fly away, the clap catches her. I've done this to a few Rachel players now. Is it just them messing up, or is it because I have her pretty much encircled in the clap?

Same thing goes for Bang. It can be sad times. D:

My nico account stopped working. Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Ohwell, I'll make one later.

Okay, vs Ragna, Imma just be doing Chaz's method for a bit. Something to note, though. Since you're whiffing, it means that EVERY time they throw break, you should go for the maximum 2c>8d loop (3 reps). Not only does it take less meter, it does more damage, too! 3537 - (1 double-clap, 2 regular) or 3906 - (optimal, 2 double-claps, end with regular clap) vs 3442 - 1482 (clap>2c>8d reset) + 980 (1st throw plus whiff) + 980 (2nd throw+whiff) All use 4 claps. The damage output on the loop is slightly more, and completely srk proof!

For that much meter, you could do alle-rc-alle+clap Maybe, anyway. I dunno.

I'll hafta test it later. I'll let you know ASAP, though. Thanks! As for the Ragna loop, I started doing the bounce-hit-grab thing. Haven't fought any really good Ragnas yet. Well, CO has a good one, but I don't think he quite gets how the loop works. He still thinks that Chaz's Universal works. D:

Carl's frustrating to play online for me just because I still have the mindset of "lag=ruin everything", despite the lag being barely (if at all) noticeable for almost every match. You can't really play Carl half-ass. You need to pay a LOT of attention to get in. Unless the person is bad.

I lurve teh Kyle. Anything I can help with, lemme know. I'm still getting some loops down, though. D:

I only copied what I saw in the video. =( Any chance we can get a video demonstrating all these? I knocked through the first 3 pretty easily. Litchi's was kinda tricky at first, and I still can't quite seem to understand how to rc to regrab stuff. I think it's the spacing that I'm messing up.

It's really well done for the first entry in a series. Bawww more somewhere else.