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Central Fiction Arcade Plot Discussion (spoilers)
Ogiga99 replied to Chaoschao222's topic in Zepp Museum
Lesbian squad? Do you mean the group consisting of 1) someone who has feelings towards her original's brother but can't tell if they're romantic or not and has considered letting a guy grope her since it would supposedly make her breasts grow, 2) the girl who is 100% Jin-sexual, 3) a girl who is actually bi since, while she had no issue kissing Mai, also has pretty much every fetish under the sun (including being a shotacon and one for Platinum because she can't tell what gender they are) plus is heavily implied to have had a one-night stand with Kagura and 4) someone who, while a yuri character, seems to be straight no matter the gender since her reactions to girls died down as her soul became more and more female and develops feelings for Taro? If so, you are clearly looking at a very different version of these characters. Possibly but it's hard to tell how much of her teasing is sincere since a lot of her interactions are part of her facade. That said, there was that one chapter where Mai lost her memories of being a girl and Kajun seemed to doubt herself when Mai assumed they were lovers so who knows. You're also forgetting Team Remix Heart's pseudo-sixth ranger Shiori who is one of only two confirmed lesbian characters in the series (the other being Elise from XBlaze) and even she might only be Mai-sexual (she says she would love Mai even if she was a man but it's unclear if that's a special case or not). An update regarding this. According to Zedar while the story will take place after, parts of arcade mode will be in it. Also story mode will start with a recap of the previous games and a story that comes after CP (probably how they got into the Embryo in the first place) so chronologically it makes no sense to skip a whole series of events. It will probably only focus on the most important events from arcade mode as opposed to giving everyone's stories. Particularly an expansion of Ragna's story (we've already seen images of him fighting Tao while they have no memories, him meeting with Jubei and him getting captured by Kagura and NOL soldiers, which is before all the fake people disappear as well as introducing Naoto since we've seen him asking Celica where he is and because introducing a new character into events (especially one from a completely different spin-off timeline) is absolutely essential. -
Central Fiction Arcade Plot Discussion (spoilers)
Ogiga99 replied to Chaoschao222's topic in Zepp Museum
What are you talking about? Makoto adds a TON to the plot. She screwed over Terumi's plans for the Noel-less Phase in Slight Hope (and in general is a wild card that Terumi is terrible at predicting and countering), she was integral to freeing Tsubaki from Mind Eater, and most importantly being one of Noel's best friends puts her right in the middle of the Noel witch hunt going on (specifically being her most staunch protector). That's not even getting into the hints dropped about future developments. Not only is she apparently part of the Power of Order, but according to Relius in her Act 3 ending her soul might be able to create a possibility, which is an important factor in the creation of a god he is trying to accomplish. Makoto is far from pointless, she is a major plot mover. That... doesn't make sense. The very first first story mode images we saw (Ragna being captured by Kagura) are clearly from Act 1 when everyone lost their memories. Heck, Ragna directly references this event when they meet in Act 3. I didn't expect story mode to completely rehash everyone's arcade mode and their development but I don't think they can completely skip it, especially with the major character development Ragna goes through. On a completely different note, we know that Mai will be released three weeks after launch so she won't be playable in story mode. However, we know she will still be active in the plot since those CG's of her fighting Hazama from when she was first revealed are clearly in the story mode style (with the text boxes overlaping the images as opposed to the arcade style ones with the subtites in the black bar at the bottom of the screen like the Relius image). Even if she isn't playable we can still see that she will be an active force in the plot and fight (unlike Kokonoe in CP who was just a support character). Basically think what always happens to Jubei. -
Central Fiction Arcade Plot Discussion (spoilers)
Ogiga99 replied to Chaoschao222's topic in Zepp Museum
Take this with a huge grain of salt since my Japanese is 1st grade level at best but it's something along the line of "This is our appointed meeting (in the context probably along the line of the meeting being destined or inevitable). I'll give you destruction, Ms. Doll." Noel's response is "I'm a... doll?" Can't really help you with anything else though. A lot of the dialogue is above me, not helped by how loud the music is. Terumi has already used Magic, Alchemy, Observation, a Nox Nyctores, an Azure Grimoire, one of the Sankishin, a whole slew of abilities with no confirmed origin such as his spirit form, his ability to possess others and fuse with vessels plus the weird dark energy he summons in most of his gameplay attacks and story battle sprites that can also let him replicate the power of the Susano'o Unit (and possibly Ouroboros to explain how he had an incomplete version in PS1 before Nine gave it to him as well as how both Hazama and him can have it at the same time in CF), and as of CF, potentially Hihiirokane as well. It would hardly be surprising for him to also have powers connected to the Terumi Clan. Although come to think of it, we actually know very little about what the powers the Terumi Clan actually has aside from the Hunter's Eye that only the heads of the clan get (Naoto's Bloodedge and Saya Terumi's Soul Eater are their own individual Drives). My only guess would be the Terumi Clan has a derivative of Mei and the Amanohokosaka Clan's Exorcist techniques. It's also possible the Art Saya Terumi used to temporarily boost her power and speed is a Terumi Clan technique but we haven't seen Yuuki Terumi use anything like that. -
Operation Rainfall wasn't about whole localization. It was about bringing over games to the U.S. that had already gotten English translations but were only released in Europe and Australia. The other issue is the sheer difference in scale. Not just the issue of no American release vs. no dub, but also the fact that Operation Rainfall was about video game juggernaut Nintendo as opposed to a niche fighting game. It also included bringing over Xenoblade Chronicles, which was being lauded as one of, if not the best RPG's of the 7th console generation, which brought much more focus. Honestly I would say a name like that would actually make things worse since it would make the goal less clear. Plus it is a lot easier to say we're petitioning to "dub BlazBlue Central Fiction" than to say "bring Xenoblade Chronicles, The Last Story and Pandora's Tower to the U.S.) so a code name would be less convenient, especially this late in the game.
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BlazBlue: Remix Heart & Variable Heart Discussion
Ogiga99 replied to churchblue's topic in Zepp Museum
Second chapter of Variable Heart has been translated. The big problem with this being Platinum is that it ignores the issue of Luna and Sena supposedly being two different people from Act 2. If this is one where is the other? Also in regards to the eyes being similar. The image shown was of Platinum in "Trinity Mode." Whenever it is Luna or Sena she has heart eyes. If that girl was Platinum that would mean Trinity was in control but if that's the case where's Muchorin where Trinity's soul stays most of the time? I don't think she can really be separated from it. -
They're not saving the physical release. The Limited Edition has been confirmed for November. Everything regarding the original release is set in stone. At the moment we have no idea how Arc System Works feels about this situation. Until they make a decision nothing that is coming will change. The best thing they can do for sales would be to announce the dub before the release since that would convince a lot of people to buy without hesitation even if they have to wait (it would change me from waiting to find it used to buying the Limited Edition). Although they are sadly more likely to wait and see how the release plays out before making their decision. The problem is we don't know what outcome of the initial release will be better. Patrick Seitz put it best. "And as for the question of whether or not to buy the sub-only release of Central Fiction in the meantime? There’s no good “one size fits all” answer to that. Frankly, I don’t know what’s going to help the dub’s cause more—healthy sub-only sales to the point where dubbing after the fact doesn’t feel like a financial risk, or low sub-only sales that underscore dissatisfaction with the current pared-down release." We'll just have to keep at it. Another important thing to remember is that the petition is not the only means of supporting the dub. It is the most widespread and the one that clearly boasts the biggest number but it doesn't necessarily cover every person who has tried to convince Arcsys via twitter, facebook, email or their website. Although I agree, we need to keep spreading this to prevent it from being forgotten. There is also another way to help spread the word. Let more voice actors know about it and get their support. We are still missing quite a few so we need to bring them in. Here is who we need (who are at least somewhat active on social media). Philece Sampler (Tao): Twitter Michelle Ruff (Carl and Linhua): Twitter, Facebook Laura Bailey (Platinum): Twitter, Facebook Travis Willingham (Relius): Twitter Kate Higgins (Izanami): Twitter, Facebook Stephanie Sheh (Mai): Twitter, Facebook Kirk Thorton (Jubei): Twitter
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Central Fiction Arcade Plot Discussion (spoilers)
Ogiga99 replied to Chaoschao222's topic in Zepp Museum
What's going on with Amaterasu is one of the big mysteries of the series and everything we have seen so far of Central Fiction makes it very clear we will be getting the answers. However, in answer to your specific points. All of the Units have different functions. Amaterasu is the highest because it has the greatest power, essentially being god. The Izanami thing is a completely different issue. Whatever happened to make Noel = Girl inside Amaterasu is different from Izanami needing a vessel. The Master Unit did have something physically inside of it before it became "empty" (either the girl's body is now gone or just her soul left). On the other hand, Izanami is just the Drive of this girl, a manifestation of her soul's power using the Azure. There is nothing odd about the manifestation of such a thing not having a physical body. The issue of events going untouched is because of the inherit limit on the power of Phenomenon Intervention. Phenomenon Intervention can only choose between event that are "possible," it cannot let the user do whatever they want (only the Azure can do that). The entire reason for the time loop in Calamity Trigger was that Takamagahara made Take-Mikazuchi nuke Kagutsuchi and there was and would never be a timeline in which Takamagahara decided not to do so. Everyone dying was a bad ending for Amaterasu so she had to reset. The reason the story altering events involving the villains happen is because she can't stop them from doing it. She can't just wipe Terumi out of reality and she can't pick a timeline where he stops being evil because that is an impossibility. CT and CS are the result of events being the best they possibly can for her, good enough to stop the immediate instant-lose condition and let things move on but not good enough to solve the big problems. There is nothing that suggests that attacking Noel was needed or connected to the Master Unit at all before Central Fiction. The stuff with Noel being the Absolute Entitled, devouring possibilities and the Master Unit being empty are all recent developments. We've seen Noel die in timelines before (which can't even happen at the moment aside from Kushinada's Lynchpin or Immortal Breaker) and nothing happened to Amaterasu or her retcon powers. The very fact that Amaterasu is currently just floating right in the middle of the sky and Izanami isn't attacking it pretty clearly shows that the situation has changed since the end of CP. -
Central Fiction Arcade Plot Discussion (spoilers)
Ogiga99 replied to Chaoschao222's topic in Zepp Museum
Terumi didn't order anyone to release Azrael, the Sector Seven top brass did that on their own Azrael plays no part in Terumi's plan. Sector Seven wanted Azrael to get Ragna's Azure Grimoire, which Terumi obviously has no use for. Kokonoe makes it very clear that the Sector Seven leaders are being idiots playing with power they can't handle in an attempt to get something that would be useless to them anyway. -
Central Fiction Arcade Plot Discussion (spoilers)
Ogiga99 replied to Chaoschao222's topic in Zepp Museum
The prisons were completely different. The first one trapped him in a room at near absolute zero temperatures that made it impossible for him to move (but didn't kill him because Azrael). The CP prison just trapped him in a space between dimensions. Which Azrael was able to punch his way out of... and then punch his way into the Embryo because he's just that freaking badass. -
Central Fiction Arcade Plot Discussion (spoilers)
Ogiga99 replied to Chaoschao222's topic in Zepp Museum
Funny, I've never heard this one before. I apologize in advance since you say you support it but I think this is even more ridiculous than Terumi = Unomaru/Ripper/Kiri. Touya and Terumi's personalities are light years apart and nothing could happen that would cause the kindhearted Touya to become a sadistic monster like Terumi. Even if Touya were to turn the blatant parallels between the two and how Touya reacts when he learns he's not human heavily imply that he would end up the same as Sechs, who also acts nothing like Terumi. Not to mention the fact that Terumi's nature as a spirit seems completely irreconcilable with Touya literally being the Original Grimoire in human form. There is also the two biggest issue with any Terumi = *insert XBlaze character here* that can never be solved. One, Terumi has been around for a long time. Terumi has had time to master Magic and Alchemy, be the most knowledgeable person about the Boundary ever, figure out how to create the Azure Grimoire and occupy the Susanoo Unit. There is no indication that Touya could use Magic at all (if so why wouldn't Mei teach him) and since Magic use is hereditary and cannot be used by everyone like Ars Magus, Terumi would not know Magic if he was Touya. Also, don't forget that the Susanoo Unit was excavated from Japan at some point in the distant past and was then taken by the Alucard clan until it was given to Jin during the Dark War. The Susanoo Unit could not have been used for hundreds if not thousands of years. Touya couldn't possibly have spent any time in the Unit when he is from just 50 years before Hakumen. And we can't go with the idea of Touya having traveled back in time through the Cauldron to have those experiences because that leads to the second issue with an XBlaze character being Terumi. The XBlaze world is completely sealed off from the rest of the BlazBlue universe by the World of the Tsukuyomi. The Phantom Field is still in place so no one could get in or out of that world via the Boundary and Touya's stated goal at the end of Lost: Memories was to destroy all of the Gates so nobody could use the Boundary for evil. There is zero chance of Terumi coming from this possibility. It's also not possible for Terumi to be an alternate Touya from the main timeline because in that world the Wadatsumi Incident, which is the thing that created Touya in the first place, never happened. Again I apologize but this theory really has nothing to stand on. Plus, that line from Terumi doesn't actually hint at a connection to Touya in the slightest. Those terms suggest he has a connection with the Mercury's and the Magic Guild/Ten Sages far more than they tease anything about Touya. It's definitely because of them both being wielders of the Azure. Near half the cast's quotes against Es have them react to feeling the power of the Azure from her so it makes sense that the Azure Grimoire would react the strongest. Nothing about Es's line suggests that at all. The line is "Unable to detect decline in target threat level. Recharging magic levels... Resuming combat mode." The recharging is connected to her preparing to "resume combat mode," nothing about Izanami's threat level not decreasing suggests that Izanami would be the one recharging or that Es could even sense that in the first place. Why is this a surprise? Everyone knows what the Azure does. The Azure is the ultimate power at the root of the world that is capable of letting on shape the world as they wish. It is the thing that everyone has been chasing throughout this game to create their desired world. Jin and Hakumen are rejecting using the Azure to play god and rewrite the world. -
Central Fiction Arcade Plot Discussion (spoilers)
Ogiga99 replied to Chaoschao222's topic in Zepp Museum
Thanks! That... certainly says a lot. Many of her quotes are just standard "eliminating the target" robo speak but still I have a lot of points to talk about. For one thing this is absolute 100% proof that Nine/Celica = Watashi/Imouto (Celica seems to recognize Es because she is Nobody but is confused because Imouto never actually saw what Es looked like). It seems she has lost her XBlaze memories aside from pudding (at least for now). She doesn't recognize Celica but it's unclear if Es ever regained her memories of Imouto in the first place (she only met with Watashi) and her quote against Makoto implies she doesn't know who the memories of "Family" belong to. At the very least, the memories do seem to exist in her data banks. Her vaguely recalling Celica also means this Es has to have come from after Lost: Memories (thank god). I'm not sure how to take Carl saying she is "neither human nor machine." Some characters note she is similar to the Prime Fields they know (which makes sense since she is a different type) but does this mean she isn't fully Prime Field either? Would this be because of the Embryo/Azure or because of her human transformation in Lost: Memories? The fact that Makoto seems familiar to Es like she did for Naoto makes the Yuuki Himezuru = Yuuki Hayami theory even more likely. Es says "recharging magic levels" after defeating Izanami. Does this mean she is now using magic somehow or is this about the power of the Azure? I think the XBlaze search terms certain characters cause her to remember are important somehow. Nine makes her think of Touya, which makes sense since Watashi helped her return to him and change his fate. Makoto makes her think of Yuuki because of the above-mentioned similarity and because a big part of Yuuki was her desire for and care for family. Ragna connecting to Grim Reaper and Black Beast are obvious but why Ten Sages aside from referencing the Sechs red herring? Tsubaki triggering Izayoi makes sense for obvious reasons and Ten Sages works as an extension of that (the Magic Guild had the Sealed Spear Izayoi and gave it to Kuon to hunt down the Ten Sages). I guess Wizard might be her remembering Kuon because of the connection. WHY DOES TERUMI MAKE HER THINK OF RINGO(A.K.A. NINE'S ANCESTOR)???!!!! WHAT DOES THIS MEAN???!!! Her quote against Tao is hilarious. Es's love of pudding is eternal, which makes sense since her entire understanding of the concept of love was contextualized by pudding. Why does Naoto seem to know Es? Is it another case of character overlap syndrome (in this case Kiiro) or is there something more to it? Apparently Es can disable Tsukuyomi's absolute defense. How powerful is she? Good to see Kagura never changes. Her Amane and Relius Astraled results are blatant references to two CG's from XBlaze (Warning Relius one is NSFW). That's about all I've got for now. Still quite a lot though. -
Central Fiction Arcade Plot Discussion (spoilers)
Ogiga99 replied to Chaoschao222's topic in Zepp Museum
I don't take it that way. According to her profile on the website she sometimes "thinks nostalgically about her “dear people” that remain in a corner of her memories" (credit to Zedar/Amatsumugi) so if she remembers them at all she definitely remembers Touya, the person who is most precious to her. I think the important part is "Command search override detected." We don't know who her opponent was in the quote but it seems to be saying that said person is being registered as Touya (probably Ragna or Naoto given the circumstances), which makes no sense to her. It doesn't seem any different than what was happening with Naoto confusing people for BE characters and vice versa, especially since on of the early preview images showed the same thing happening with Makoto. Then again, nothing we've learned about Es's appearance in BlazBlue has made any sense so what do I know. I'm surprised she doesn't even acknowledge their relationship. I guess that this is only one victory quote so it doesn't say everything but still. Maybe the fact that she is protecting the gate to the Azure, and thus the world that Nine wants to destroy, Nine views her as an unforgivable enemy that overrides anything else. There better be more to this in story mode or something because Lost: Memories would be completely pointless if none of the characters even remember meeting each other. -
People who think that will happen are delusional. If a dub will take 6-8 months than now then a dub for Extend would take 8-10 months and that is way worse. Plus if they can get away with it now they will never have a reason to go back. The good news is if we do get one for vanilla CF it might be possible for an Extend to get it at launch since those have much less content to dub (an average of a 2 month wait which is a lot more fair to both sides).
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I disagree. BlazBlue is a series that has been dubbed every time for eight years. Just by knowing that the game is coming out the voice actors should have no reason not to expect that to continue. If there is no precedent for not being called in, they won't just hope for it, but want it and be shocked when it suddenly doesn't happen like it should have. This is especially true for Patrick Seitz who is incredibly involved in the series, having worked as a voice director and coordinated the dub of Alter Memory keeping the games' cast.
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I don't think there's any way to really tell. We're nearly at 3000 in less than a week but we have no idea how long the question will remain open so to speak. Is the most important thing a really big number over a long time or a decent number really quickly? There's also not much precedence for something like this. When people talk about successful gaming petitions odds are they will be Operation Rainfall and the localization of Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth. Both of those had much more support but that is because they are much bigger names. Operation Rainfall was about Nintendo, a juggernaut of the gaming industry and included bringing over Xenoblade Chronicles, which has been considered one of, if not the best RPG of that generation. Digimon is a much bigger name filled with nostalgia and was one of the biggest games in the franchise. This was also helped by the announcement of Digimon Adventure Tri at the time, which brought back childhood fans because it continued the story of the original series. BlazBlue is much more niche so it will never reach those numbers and the news will not spread as far. On the other hand this means they probably won't need as many names. This also doesn't take into account all the emails, messages on social media etc. that Arcsys gets about this since the petition is simply the most concentrated form of fan demand, not the only one. I would like to think that Aksys's quick policy change suggests that the numbers we had even before the petition was at least enough to make them think twice, so if the numbers increase at a decent pace I think we have a possibility. Based on the size of the fandom, if we somehow reach 10,000 and they don't budge it means Arc System Works never took this seriously to begin with. This is why we need to continue spreading the information around. We can't let the issue fade into obscurity after a week or two. There are probably still fans that simply haven't seen this yet so we need to keep it relevant.
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Not for sure. While there will definitely not be a dub at launch, Aksys has said that is still possible for them to add one in as a patch or DLC (but it would take at least 6-8 months) and urged fans to petition Arc System Works to convince them to do it. Whether or not this will actually go anywhere is unknown but the possibility of a dub is not zero.
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I get that you're mad but you sound exactly like the dub-haters with this. Are you really going to say "none of them could act their way out of a paper bag" when the cast includes people like Tetsuya Kakihara, Kana Ueda, Yuuichi Nakamura, Junichi Suwabe, Akira Ishida, Keiji Fujiwara and Yukana? If so I hope you don't watch a lot of subbed anime because you're going to be hearing these supposedly terrible voices a lot. And are you really going to pretend everyone has "emotionless delivery devoid of personality" when including things like Jin's "nii-san" mode, Nu's yandere mode, Terumi's over the top insanity? Whether you like them or not, they do not fit under your blanket statement of "emotionless" which renders everything you say as hyperbole that I can't take seriously. I agree with you in considering the dub better overall. Heck BlazBlue's Japanese dub is one of the few series with voices that I actually do not like listening too (usually I'm indifferent at worst). Tao is way too scratchy and her "nyaa's" are more annoying than the dub's peppy "meow" at the end of some sentences, Valkenhayn sounds like he has throat cancer and despite how good Aoi Yuuki usually is, she cannot do a little boy voice and Sena's weird falsetto is actually painful. I would hate to have to play through the game with this but at the same time I cannot stand completely dismissive claims like yours. We've been over this. The issue of the 6-8 month delay is perfectly in line with previous evidence. If all of the previous games were released as quickly as CT and CS I would be willing to call BS but CP took 5 months for us to get. CF has a story mode that is supposedly 1.5 times longer and has over 70 more arcade stories. Since Arcsys/Simply Compelling clearly hasn't gotten their act together yet, a 6-8 month delay to do all of that is 100% believable. They cannot be "falling back on" something that is true, especially when there are fans who this does cater to. Go reread the rules of this thread. All we know is what we have been told so stop with the conspiracy theories that everyone is out to get you. There is no basis for the issue being them trying to scam us just to save money besides insane rants about "da evil corporashuns" so just stop it. You can be angry but that doesn't mean you have to be ignorant.
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You don't need to apologize. My rant wasn't really directed at you, it was more me trying to get out all my thoughts on the dub and why it's important. I knew you had no ill-will towards us or the dub and I apologize for making you think I took it that way. You are not one of those assholes who insult the dub and its fans because "all dubs suck, Japanese version is the best evar" so you have every right to not be personally invested in this. In fact, I am a bit envious of you that this won't affect your enjoyment of the game. All anyone could possibly ask of you is that you understand our position and are civil, which you have done so thank you. Shoryuken.com has also posted about this. Anything that can help spread the word and gather more support is good in my book. Perhaps not but in a way it makes a bit of sense. Cosplayers are in a way a representation of the fans' support and love of a series. The picture shows that this is a fan-driven issue and conveys how important it is to them (plus cosplayers are really the only visual way to easily say "this is a fan"). Of course I'm probably a bit biased since I've cosplayed Hazama in the past and admittedly the picture of Patrick Seitz of in front of the Central Fiction poster from the petition would have probably been better.
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Actually it's completely different. In every possible way. For one thing you're not considering the differences between the mediums. Anime is broken down into a series of 24 minute episodes that can either be watched one at a time as they come out or binged once it's finished. Either way you have a convenient way to break up the experience and pick up at a later point. A 30-40 hour visual novel like BlazBlue is a different story. We get the entire package at once with the game's release so we can't watch it over time and it is not formatted in a way that is nearly as conducive to balanced play times. By giving us the game all at once we are expected to binge on it and not given as easy a stopping point. This makes the amount of time we have to deal with not understanding the language and stare at the bottom of the screen for subtitles much longer. For another thing, anime only has subtitles for dialogue and occasional onscreen text. The rest is shown purely through visuals. BlazBlue however has extensive narration in addition to dialogue, making that much more to read and unlike with a dub, where all the dialogue has another means of being processed, that means we have to focus on the bottom of the screen at all times instead of just narration. Furthermore, missing anything is much more punishing in a game like BlazBlue than an anime. In an anime you can pause and rewind to a previous part at any time but in BlazBlue the best you have is the ability to scroll through previous text in story mode, which doesn't give you the visuals or the voices. And arcade mode is much worse since you can't pause cutscenes so if you miss anything aside from the ending that gets saved to the gallery, you will have to play through it all over again. Considering there are at least 97 of them and BlazBlue is so complicated, odds are this is going to happen more once. There's also the issue of dialogue that is not translated in a video game. In anime everything gets translated with the possible exception of some background chatter that is hard to make out anyway and some non-essential text. In games however you only get cutscenes that have a dialogue box, no in-game dialogue is translated. This is because it would be impossible to play something like BlazBlue while dozens of different subtitles are scrolling along the bottom and the lines are cut off by getting hit or using another move and overlapping constantly. This also includes the unique character interactions before a battle and the victory quotes so there is important dialogue that is simply lost to us. Another major thing is the issue of how we choose the language track in the first place. For anime, within a day of an episode airing in Japan a subbed version will be available to watch. For new shows this gives us the option of instant gratification if we choose subs, otherwise we would have to wait for the entire show/season to end before then waiting the several months it takes for a dub to be released. This is why I always choose subs for shows that are ongoing or have new installments regularly, since the option is there. For games on the other hand, we have to wait for an English release. All we can get story-wise from a Japanese release is spoilers from people who can translate but not the whole experience so if a game is getting a dub it is available to us at the very same time we can actually experience the story properly. But even if you do want to wait for an anime, you have the option of doing that while others have already had a chance to watch the show in another form. You can choose to watch it now, wait until later or watch it now and then rewatch it with the dub. However, since a game is only released once, from the first time you can get a proper experience of it, if the dub is not present you will never get one (provided we don't have a situation like this one where we might get one post-release but that is really rare and not guaranteed). Lastly, and most importantly, is the fact that we are not just choosing to watch something in Japanese. We are losing the audio track we have been listening to for 8 years at the climax of Ragna's story and are being forced to have a completely different (and to many, worse) experience. Watching subbed on it's own is fine, either because you watch it when it comes out or it never gets dubbed in the first place, but watching it after becoming attached to a set of performances and those versions of the characters will simply not be the same. Tomokazu Sugita is fine as Ragna and I was okay listening to him in the anime and as arcade modes were released before the console version because I'm impatient and we don't get the whole story from that but to me Patrick Seitz is and always will be Ragna the Bloodedge. Having to play the entire game and experience the conclusion to his story for the first time without him there would make the experience hollow. Sorry to go on this long rant. I completely respect your right to not care about the dub but it is not something as simple as you make it out to be. I will gladly dodge spoilers and wait on the story mode for 6-8 months or even a year if that is what it takes to enjoy it properly, to see the insane twists and nonsense Mori will pull my first time with the actual versions of the characters I've come to love over the course of this series.
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Aksys themselves did. If I remember everything correctly, at some point in between CSII and CSEX Arc System Works established it's own branch in the US and took over the localization directly/outsourced it to Strangely Compelling and Aksys was demoted to just being the publishers. It sucks because Aksys was so much more efficient (CT and CSII were released only 5 days after the Japan while the original CS took less than a month). Compare that to Arcsys (CSEX and CPEX took two months while the original CP took 5). I have a feeling that if Aksys was still in charge we could have gotten CF with dub in 3-4 months at the most, even with it's insane scale.
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Additionally, the voice actors, who have a connection to the company and are more high profile, might have a tiny bit of sway in influencing Arc System Works about this. At the very least they are public figures whose words are more likely to reach Arcsys directly. I don't think it's a coincidence that Aksys shifted gears from "no plans at the moment" to "it is totally possible and you should fight for it" not long after Patrick Seitz's facebook post. One clear voice from higher up can get through when thousands of lower profile ones are ignored.
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There's also Michelle Ruff (Carl/Linhua) and if we're including prominent non-playable characters Kirk Thorton (Jubei) and Ezra Weisz (Nago). The silver lining of Arcsys's 6-8 month dubbing process is that it gives them plenty of time to record and could definitely fit into those two's schedules at some point.
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David Vincent (Jin/Hakumen), Cristina Vee (Noel/Nu/Lambda/Mu), Julie Ann Taylor (Tsubaki/Izayoi/Kokonoe), Yuri Lowenthal (Amane), Erin Fitzgerald (Bullet) and Amanda Celine Miller (Nine) have all shown support as well. We need to somehow get the whole cast in on this!
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Patrick Seitz made a second post in response to the change in the situation and among other things directly linked people to the change.org petition. It's great to see him in much higher spirits than Thursday.
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Thanks.