CrimsonDisaster

Discussing what I have seen in videos, I think everybody is A or B rank except for Eddie (potentially S, we'll see how the #Revival of Eddie turns out) and Dizzy (more like XX-Anji-tier). Honestly nobody stands out so much that I'd rank anybody S at this point, except possibly Eddie since he's Eddie but really good again, and we all know how that worked out the last few times. Eddie practically has his old damage output, new unblockables that seem to lead to more damage (plus more time off the clock to recharge your bar), freaking FB drill, and flying seems better again. Honestly though, I'm not seeing anything so broken from anybody that other characters' brokenness doesn't seem to stack up. Not nearly enough info to look at matchup stuff just yet though, and AC is definitely the kind of game where you can't just be like "whoa look how broken this character is, they must be top tier." So yeah, we'll see how matchups pan out. Also the sanctity of OTG state has no meaning anymore.

Hokuto no Gear: Advent ReACT. Everybody knows OTG state is where the combo really begins.

Holy crap I finally saw the magician girl in a post-loke test match... and was not very impressed. No wonder I haven't seen much. Also some Fiona matches from arcanaarcana, watch Fiona get owned.

Excuse me Mr. English major but I can't read in fact what are these shapes you are throwing at my computer. Also said changelog is hiding somewhere where I cannot see it, and therefore cannot read it. Though if I could see it, I still couldn't read it. Curse you written language.

I could be wrong but it looks like downwards Raou-ball cancels OTG state (ie. launches even on OTG hit) from the few AC vids I've seen. Didn't see it mentioned explicitly in this thread so I thought I'd throw that out there for y'all to look out for.

I just read that convo and I imagined Ryan excitedly saying all of that out loud and smiling a lot. Also drinking a beer and wearing a nice shirt. Did not know the unsummon was also an overhead. Oh man.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GynWPj1HJRY

I haven't seen that girl in a match since the loke tests... in fact I associated her character design with Battle Fantasia for the longest time ;(

It's more of a "meatshield" at midscreen, but it places itself in a position that is almost utterly worthless in corner oki. Plus it doesn't really give you a mixup, it just gives you a random object between you and your opponent... which is nice sometimes, but it did that even better in previous versions. I mean it's an okay dedicated "eat a hit" kind of thing for running in during a neutral situation sometimes. Not saying it's absolutely worthless. It just isn't very good for much of anything at this point- H fish extension to another fish attack is okay but not nearly as useful as the old H fish. The next time I get to play the game, I'll see if I can mess around with her j2S more. It looks a lot bigger in AC than it did in previous games, at the very least. I don't think it's going to be ground breaking or anything, just a bit more damage in combos and another crossup tool (which will help given how H fish set seems really bad for midscreen mixups now)

Pros: Homing bubble is awesome, new fishy tricks, jury-rigged 2D special cancel, JCable 2D, homing bubble is awesome, j2S adds damage to combos, homing bubble is awesome, homing bubble is awesome Cons: Bad sweep, pokes still suck, lazer fish is horrible, no good midscreen fish setups, most tricks aren't safe anymore, horrible pokes, sweep has no range, no way to get in safely against most characters outside of homing bubble, new tricky fish are okay but lazer fish are awful... She just feels a lot more rigid in terms of safe, effective, basic setups that feed into her pressure/mixup game; she still has trickery to be sure, just it's mostly prone to uppercuts and stuff except a few setups (bubble + pop from far out) except those don't give you multiple setups or continued mixups on block like her old setups did. She pretty much has to run away for a long time, wait for people to mess up horribly, and then guess right a bunch of times... and if anything goes wrong, run away some more. And if you get meter, homing bubble. Homing bubble rules. Shame Dizzy doesn't. Also homing bubble is awesome. I love it so much, if only Dizzy wasn't sucky.

I'd just like to reiterate that AC Dizzy is awful.

I've found my character D:

you've been had, let loose with the fishzooka before anybody else finds out Does the Time arcana have any effects on guardcancels?

I am the Johnny player who was at Q's place ;(

I am not even black D: I will probably play Lilica anyhow D:

just looks like dashing jabs to me ;( woof: I will be Team Lilica's resident Kamui player ;(

That's 'cuz the ninja girl is good ;( Honestly you must be watching different vids from the ones I'm watching because I mostly see water users get raped.

fixed

Hold back during the entire string ([4]K > c.S > [1]S XX 6H > P, 632146P)

I'd rather have the FRC and the option to attack relatively safely on block. On hit it's probably best to TK homing bubble against most characters. From there you can start a decent pressure string with the threat of the bubble turning any early hit into a combo, and the blockstun from the bubble lets you get things like spears or maybe even fish out safely.

It's not "that far," really. It's well inside several character's poke range. Johnny gets a KILL YOU DEAD punish even on regular block instead of just a Jackhound like in Slash. Sol gets at least a f.S. Ky gets a f.S into Stun Dipper at the very least (if it's close enough, f.S > 2S XX Stun Dipper). etc. etc. In XX it didn't even extend all the length of Necro's arm IIRC. It's a bit on the slow side, doesn't go to the floor nearly as fast as it would need to be a good poke, and now it doesn't even have the benefit of hitting at a range where most characters can't punish it in some fashion. It has huge recovery as well and a really long CH time, I fail to see how it's a good poke now that it's lost its primary advantage (range) when it was never a good poke to begin with. The range and FRC made it an okay poke, so explain why it's so good without those things? It's not hard to hit Dizzy in the summoning animation via IB and SB, given how close you will be. It's not point blank of course, but it's certainly close enough for people to just poke you in the face, especially given how quickly they can act out of the SB. Of course Dizzy can do silly things to bait SBs (lololol 2D XX FIRE) but it's nowhere near a "safe" way to get fish out against people who know what to be looking for against Dizzy. Don't get me wrong, I think it's great that she can jury-rig a special-cancellable 2D again, but I'd rather have range and the FRC. You're better off JCing into homing bubble on block anyhow ;(

yes

That is what you are hearing. This is a fairly common thing, really, just there weren't many moves that were JCable but not special cancellable so unless you played Johnny or Venom or something, it wasn't that big a deal. Order Sol's lvl3 Rock It is another example of a JCable, non-special-cancellable move that you can cancel into special moves by TKing said moves to JC into a ground special. Probably the ONLY other example at the moment ;(

I wouldn't, what with the way fish work (they still disappear if you're hit in recovery) and the fact that there's really one range where it'd be useful (right at the range where you get 2K > f.S instead of 2K > c.S but just outside of 2K > 6P range) since you could combo 2K > c.S > H XX icespike instead for more damage and it's still punishable even if you summon a fish (moreso than in #R because you're going to be like right next to them). And that's not even mentioning what horrors will happen when people IB and/or Slash Back against the 2D (though you get a ghetto "mixup" by doing icespike or FIRE if you expect a Slash Back)

It's because people were having trouble figuring out a way around homing bubbles for a week. I'm expecting her to drop off very soon (like once people stop just spamming FBs and stuff and start figuring out the nuances of the stupid new systems like Slash Back). Don't forget that Dizzy was practically S tier during the first few weeks after Slash was released, and look how that turned out.