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Actually with those changes, Tsubaki and Rachel's buffs, Noel may end up the new worst character in the game. XD Glad I'm switching to Platinum.

Damn I spent like 2 weeks seriously picking him up and training in secret. Oh well, pz out my former confidants.

But 5c is unsafe on block. That's not really a buff at all, lol. Neither on hit nor block. The problem with j.4d is that once she hits the ground, it takes 15 frames AFTER she hits the ground to actually have a hitbox. Meaning unless they sped that up, the attack is still terrible, and still loses to people pressing random buttons lol. 5d less invincibility? Honestly imo the first two changes are not buffs at all. Noel is arguably worse?

I wonder why we would ever need to do 2c 5c... on hit 5c only gattles into 2c anyways? If they are crouching we would just gattle into 3c...

Bro, Chain Revolver is BAD. Being in Chain Revolver while your opponent is NOT in hitstun puts you at an immediate disadvantage. I don't know if you're a netplayer or what but smart players don't randomly press buttons during CR to get hit. They either do a reversal or they wait until you exit CR because every possible exit (aside from RC) is punishable. I'm not saying not to use CR at all but you're under the impression that it's some type of amazing mixup tool. Lmao I dare any Noel player to mash CR against my Makoto.

Idk Icekid plays a really good Tsubaki and her mixup seems amazing. Damage sucks though, lmao. She apparently has a fuzzy guard. Btw somebody help me think of a theme for this combo movie.

She has decent damage but absolutely no mixup. She will lose against patient players. There is almost no reason to respect her other than the fact that you might hit her iframes if she's mashing buttons. Imo Tager and Tsubaki are both better characters, but people see Noel do 5k in the corner and are amazed.

I think we should just wait until Noel is a viable character. The Tager boards have a thread full of gimmicks because Tager's gimmicks cannot always be beaten by simply blocking, whereas "Chain Revolver oki" is almost ALWAYS punishable by just waking up and holding back like you're supposed to.

For all of the Noel players we have, right?

I feel like making a combo video. What hasn't been done yet?

She'd be top 3 if the current top 3 didn't exist.

You're playing trash Hakumen players. This is absolutely one of her worst matchups.

Yeah for the love of god, Arakune isn't unplayable precurse. And while I'm at it, Lambda's close range normals aren't complete trash.

Who is this guy?

2d is punishable on instant block, guantlet hades is punishable on any block. Personally I don't like trying to space out 5c hits because his 5b shuts it the fuck up. 6/4 like most other matchups. He has an easy time outspacing Noel on the ground and wrecks her shit in the air (like most characters). Also most (all?) of his blockstrings lead into some guard primer breaking move, 2d, GH or Dead Spike so watch your bursts and last primer. I do noticed that a lot of Ragnas like to do Hell's Fang + follow up if they have 50 meter to rapid cancel, so if you ever think he's gonna do that, counter assault the first hit of Hell's Fang for a free 3c punish. Fun stuff. Don't know what else to tell ya guys, I thought it was in his favor in CT and it's only gotten worse. :p

I'd drop BB for this, seriously.

Looks like that's character specific, but Bloom Trigger should push them into the corner anyways.

http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?9832-XBL-3V3-Same-Character-Tourney.-Shake-off-October-Rust Me and hobbes tore through the 3v3 in Calamity Trigger. Mooyang, let's start playing again. :3

lol

This "combo thread" is severely outdated. The Noel boards desperately need a cleanup because every thread is essentially the same thing. So sad that very few people play Noel at a high level (or even decently). All we have left to represent us are the scrub ass Noel players in Ranked that are an embarrassment to us all. :p

Just sayin. I hope people aren't expecting the patch to come out and BB be completely balanced and perfect.

"CS should fix CT"

Oh yes, the scrub Kune matchup is quite easy. Unfortunately once they learn that Noel has a terrible anti-air and air-to-air game it becomes much harder. Oddly enough, 6a clashes with j.B very often. By no means one of her worst matchups, though.