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How are people using j.C outside of combos. Like situations, spacing and what not? I have a really bad mentality for using it since I seem to get Athena killed a lot by it's use haha. (I also play against Labrys a lot, damn her j.B) When i do use it though; I usually try to throw it out when I'm approaching air to air, especially if my opponents above me since there isn't much Aigis can do to cover above her when she's airborn but below the opponent. I'm wary on using it against an opponent on the ground though, Athena just feels like a big target that gets beaten (or trade?)by almost anything? I feel like I should be whoring this move out more, advice?

Updated a bit frame data for: -Escape Change -Radical Cannon -SB Megido -A few normals changed wording of descriptions for some moves Also, there's conflicting info between our wiki and jBBS' regarding Aigis' AoA Ours say 28f and theirs says 29f, i left it at 28 for now.

I think it might just be a good habit to do though if you double jump right after j.236CD since the situation you land EX Megido may not always be consistently clean. Like a problem I used to have is that sometimes I hit an opponent out of the air in the corner at j.Cs max range and do EX Megido, while Aigis will usually land facing towards the opponent, you will land almost directly underneath the opponent and I've had 214A whiff completely even if the timing would normally be correct. Might just be me though.

I've had normal Rise say that actually.

So anyone here do Aigis' Challenge 30 yet?

OMG how could I not have known that before? My life has meaning to it now thanks to your valuable insight!

If anyone cares; Mitsuru followed by Yu are the current unanimous top tier characters on BBS. Then generally(keyword here) they have Aigis, Chie and Kuma hustling under them at S(-?). Everyone else on A, except Kanji in B.

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For point blank sweeps I pretty much preemptively press [6]B to get it out consistently.

Is the negative penalty tolerance the same throughout all the characters or are some characters more resistant to it than others like in BB?

I believe all the Megiddos have 14f of start up. I haven't really figured out any FC specific combos but I'm sure after AoA D in the corner you could do the standard 5B>5C>IAD stuff and for Megiddo stuff there or even bust out the 214AB shenanigans.

Yea Nu/Lambda are really unique characters; Yukikos probably the closest to them and that's still a longshot. Doesn't Kaqn also play Aigis? I don't know if he's any good though.

There's frame data on the JP wiki. I'll work on translating it, but I've been really busy lately so I don't know when I can find time to pull them out.

Wow the JP Wiki is a really nice primer, I think I might work on translating chunks of it(or the parts that I'm actually able to read) and put it in the wiki. Hey now OH, don't make Aigis the new Lambda of WC Canada. =(

I wanted to use Yukiko actually haha but Wenff wanted to use her so I changed mains for the sake of diversity

Not a typo, Aigis is blowing herself up inside of you. =P

BD works even while in Overheat. Apparently there was supposed to be a downside to using it in overheat though, but nobody had noticed anything afaik. Dunno about the spear invincibility.

Ah yea I just re read the first post again, that explains a lot. Lol thanks

Any tips on landing 5AB after (j?)236D?

What are the differences between the two goddess shields asides from damage?

The "good" combos you do in normal mode aren't really for damage but mostly for setting up spacing/positioning or buying time to recover orgy meter. But if you really need that damage you can do simple BnBs and change the enders to like j.c xx Hard Drive super (no clue what the actual name is, great goddess shield?) which doesn't even do that much.

Is anyone working on updating the wiki / MM data thread with more specific info? I wouldn't mind hitting the lab and helping out

Are there any practical uses for Athena's Ds? It seems to me like a horrible counter. Most of them have terrible start up and recovery, and even if the counter gets triggered, you can react and block it. She just sits there for too long and ends up getting hit anyways. And I think I've seen attacks go straight through it even when it's active as well and go on and hit Aigis and/or Athena. =( Same question for 2C.

20 people and no Victa couldn't make it. =(

Sorry guys I was a liar. No stream for us. =( We still had a great time though right? ;__; 1st - Tokido (Noel) 2nd - Dacidbro (Bang) 3rd - Wenff (Noel) 4th - MSG (Lambda) 5th - AC (Lambda) 5th - Stuart 7th - Meteo Impact 7th - Raikon