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You know, you'd think normal green grabs would be worse in lag. For some reason everybody objects to the purple ones.

4C is bad against Litchi. She has a million ways to make you pay for it. Litchi is better off than you at mid and full range. You want to slowly make your way in, and catch her without her staff. The instant you get a knockdown off a random hit and she doesn't have her staff on her, go all in.

Good logic. You guys should try to see it yourself too since you never know if the 5D or 2A was done at the earliest possible moment or not. I feel like +1 is too little, but who knows. Or rather, I want it to be more. :P dat confirmation bias

Well, you can do a million things after Hotaru. Jump cancel, counter, cancel into Tsubaki, etc. And the move itself is invincible. With Tsubaki you just land.

I found a better test. Hotaru > 5D 5D's startup is 5 frames. It actually manages to catch Hazama's 5A and 2A without IB. Hazama's 5A is 5 frames and his 2A is 6 frames. But with IB, Hazama's 5A and 2A both hit... Now I just have to figure out what that means. Wait, I guess that just establishes a lower bound, not an upper bound. FFFFFFFFFF

It even pushes Hakumen far enough away that your fastest moves, 5A, will whiff, putting you in perfect 2A range. It looks like those wouldn't make it out in time anyway though.

His Tsubaki is definitely safe. It has a lot of stun. I'm trying to 2A with Hazama after IBing Hotaru and I can't beat Haku's 2A after it. Doesn't make sense. I must be doing it wrong. I'm IBing and hitting his 2A as much as I can.

The thing is, I'm messing with Hazama right now and I can't get his 2A to beat Haku's 2A after IBing Hotaru. Hazama's 2A is 6 frames compared to Haku's 7. I must be timing it wrong... somehow.

:3 :3 :3 On another note, I'm trying to figure out how + Hotaru is on block if you just decide to land and continue pressure. I think I figured it out a while back but I forget the exact numbers. I'm in training mode right now and I can land and block before Tsubaki's 5A hits me, which is 6 frames. I can also hit her with my 5A and score a CH first. Haku 5A is 5 frames. But on IB she can hit us first. So this means it has to be something like +2, right? And the move Tsubaki lets me land and do 5A and score a CH against her 5A even on IB.

Well. This is weird. I can even do 2A after and get a CH. No wonder I never expected it. :P I wonder why it wasn't working in our matches. Maybe a slight degree of lag made a delay or something. Haku 5A is 5 frames. I had time to do Hotaru and land the 5A before Tsubaki's 5A hit me. Her 5A is also 6 frames... But on IB, she can get the 5A out first. So I think that means Hotaru is +2? At least, it's +2 if Hotaru gets blocked and then you let yourself fall back to the ground and block or do something else. How many frames does IB shave off again. 2 or 3. And the move Tsubaki lets me land and do 5A and score a CH against her 5A even on IB.

The problem with Windows is that it is bad design. To avoid getting a virus or doing half the stuff you need to do, there are a million intermediate steps to follow that nobody would know at first glance without studying it like some sort of arcane text. I mean, just trying to figure out what the IP address of my computer at work was once ended up being a huge wild goose chase. And I know how to use it, anyway. :P I am a computer science major lol. It's from the perspective of somebody designing something that I look at it and I'm like "Why would anyone do this." It's like building a house with the front door on the second floor instead of the first.

6B. I'm gonna test Hotaru out when I get home.

Well, it depends how close I do it. Sometimes you need to run forward a bit to hit me, and that takes time. Also it depends how fast the move you are using is.

Mucky never takes anything seriously anyway.

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I used to have Windows also installed on my Mac since they can run both now, but it would get a virus so often that I'd have to reformat like every week. And I wouldn't even really use it for anything except playing like one game, so there's no reason for it to even get viruses. It's like hitting the ON button would just start downloading a virus. The anti-virus programs probably install the viruses themselves.

I don't mean at the start of the round, although there's that too. I mean when you're both at full screen and you're trying to get in. She can do it to pretty much anything and you can't exactly go LOL IMMA 3C HER. If she does it at point blank 3C range then it's a different story.

It's time, Blade.

Playing Ctrl will make you hungry. It's part of his strategy. It's just implied at this point. :P As for 6B and Hotaru, 6B is -4 on block normally, but I can cancel it into a counter. So if I 6B and I try to poke, you will hit me if you did something first. But if I counter instead, you eat the counter. Although if you IB the second hit you should be able to hit me with like a 2A or something before I have a chance to counter. Hotaru is safe even if you IB, at least if I jump cancel, but if you IB it and I just try to land and continue pressure you should be able to hit me. I have to test it though, there's no frame data for how + on block it is.

Hotaru will hit you if you don't try to block though. So that's during your wakeup. Technically I can still hit you out of those 2As but I just kept not expecting it. :P But if I jump cancel the Hotaru then you will get hit by a j.B or other things. Of course you can then try to block > DP or something else instead, so there's more mindgames.

> mashing C > not Hazama Ah, I see. Well, it was working. I think her 3C is the biggest problem for me right now. Gotta figure out how to deal with it. What do you mean it was getting on your nerves. Don't I always do 6B or TRM. (Although usually I'm hoping it does make the person impatient since they will start making more mistakes then.) Somehow you would not get hit by Hotaru though even though you were ready to hit buttons :P If only you ate more Hotarus.

Nah you were still playing differently even with Tsubaki. I noticed it. Maybe you're just getting used to my tricks. For Tsubaki, for instance, you were doing her 3C and shield charge all over the place, normally you don't do that. Also I thought I could punish her 3C but it was practically safe. :P And you're getting better at getting charges in without letting me stop you. The 22C oki didn't work out as well this time though.

To elaborate, I noticed the times I start off silly with you, and try to switch to serious, it doesn't work that well since the first few games set you up with confidence and makes it harder to scare you into mind games. After that I'm spending the rest of the time trying to fight my way through your momentum. That and you went full Hazama and were showing zero respect the entire time (probably related to the first item), so I kept going in to do mixup and then being like "WAIT WH--?!" and getting hit. I started doing better towards the end by showing less respect myself. I thought it was weird how I would get you with just naked grabs, but not 2A > throw since that is usually what screws people's reflexes up. I'll take either one though.

That's a huge growth for you though. THE SURGE I could not stop it. I think I know what the problem was anyway. NEXT TIME, badlime. Next time.

You'll have to avenge me Ctrl. Badlime bodied me tonight. why.jpg dropped combo into loss is my OD