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work. That's what they've been in the business of doing for years. 15-12? That's pretty close, not getting bodied.

Wouldn't the connection with someone so far away be horrendous.

The middle is actually my favorite part.

What. Character love should be the first reason he plays someone. You can win with anyone if you get good enough. But what is it that will keep you playing that character when you're not winning yet. It has to be that you enjoy the character itself.

the correct notation is "carl too strong" learn some englsih

Hmm, I'm not familiar enough with Yun to be able to tell who is similar to him... maybe someone else can. Jin is probably the best bet for someone with a little of everything.

I forget the Wiki even exists until I want frame data. I just go on the forums if I want to know something. That's me though.

You only get one after you've killed 100 Ragnas. Also read the posts I linked. :P

how did you come up with that name

GGs Nemesis. So tired...

The other thing about Renka as far as safety goes is that it can actually be punished by IBing the first hit and DPing out. And if they block it, you are far away from them. It pushes you out, but you use Hotaru to get in. too strong

Way more people actually look at threads than the wiki though.

Why am I so old.

I thought they just dined and dashed together. lol

2B and Renka are great, but Hotaru still has its place. It doesn't need mixup properties, the point of it is to condition the opponent into blocking so you CAN do mixup, and let you get back in. After a blocked Renka you would still have to get back in either via hop or Kishuu so you'd be back to the same problem.

If you're fighting someone like Mu or Tsubaki who has a 2C that can beat everything you do after jump cancel it's pretty much giving them a free combo. If landing and pressuring doesn't work either then all you can do pretty much is jump away, which is kind of lame if you are trying to pressure them in the corner. I was trying to figure out how much I could commit after landing to pressure. In the end, +0~2 is no big problem, so it's still okay. Just wanted to know for sure.

I'll just keep mashing 2A after it and rely on lag to bail me out. With your back to the corner, you can't risk betting the match on hitting the perfect frame, can you? You can't! I think it's hilarious if it really is +0 since everybody's been playing like it's +5 this whole time just because we didn't know better. I wonder if the JP players even know. We should just have the frame data say every Haku move is +5 on block and watch everybody play around them. The thing is, how do you know when to push the button to use advanced input.

What have we done. Science has gone too far. I'm going to have to kill all of you. Nobody can learn what has transpired.

welp back to CT status Hmmm... I wonder, what if I plugged in my stick, and used the turbo feature to record the 2A coming out after Hotaru as fast as possible. So far I've tried to just do the 2A manually at the exact precise moment and I think I have, but it might be faster to use the turbo feature. Only question is if that would be less precise since it might not hit on the first frame either. I tested out the first few frames of Hotaru too. I mean, if you did the very end of the attack you'd have to be farther away and that would make it harder to pressure in the first place. Ugh, this is going to keep bugging me until I'm 100% sure. :P Anyway, good job so far.

Are you sure you got it on the first frame? I was able to get 2A to win (on offense), but lose on IB. It also seems distance / hitbox dependent too.

lol, the results recorded for all time.

Yeah that's what I meant. But I'd just update it every time there was something going on. Or whoever is doing the FT10 could post about it and then I could put it in the original post. If you have an individual FT10 thread someone could come into the forum and see it and go "Ah, it's Chickzama's FT10, I should check that out" whereas if it's like a giant video thread then they'd have to go dig around to see what's recent. The first post would still contain all the relevant information, but as you know with video threads that list 100 different matches it can be hard to tell which one exactly is brand new or got updated, at least without a new post making note of it. Somehow I have more posts in these netplay threads than everyone else. :P I am pretty much in here anytime I'm online.

Well, if it's definitely going to happen, then I can run it. I don't think it will be that busy or anything.

I think it makes more sense to have multiple ones since it puts more focus on the specific FT10. In a giant thread it'll get mixed in with stuff for different FT10s and streams all over the place.