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to clarify, players wern't 100% sure if A version had wakeup invuln or not-it honestly might be that A version is current version without blue health, B version gives blue health but has recovery, and SB version is current version concentrate for all we know. will be hard to know until it's out in arcades.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6jHSxEIQdM clash cancel video, has details on setting up silly clash OS into throw for Kanji http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfyjoTW4db8 air throw safejump http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYnTSGXkorY ...lol thing

loketest is over but information will trickle out for a day or two as people discuss and realize. sb garu > zio special cancel wasn't found until last minute

interview notes: (my translation is not going to be super accurate AT ALL, just going to stick to details w) 'what's with the name' 'secret lol' 'what's with sho minazuki' 'secret lol' 'care to explain junpei/yukari since noone was available for interview at the last loketest?' interviewee: 'Yukari Takeba is a shooting type of character who looks quite difficult at first glance, but is honestly very simple. her projectile angles are straightforward and honest, so she should be easy to use. interviewee: 'to put it simply junpei is a baseball fighting game character, so we decided to give him a baseball counter instead of a normal gauge' interviewer: 'so he gets more powerful as he hits and counterhits the opponent with his bat" interviewee: 'ye. (explains how the hits/strikes/etc powers up in short, check pssych's guide if interested)" interviewer: 'so aside from new characters there seems to be new systems in place" interviewee: 'yes, like the s hold system. it was suggested to us as feedback to the last version's consumer version, so we decided to implement it. it is primarily just for beginners." interviewer: 'also i see you updated the autocombos' interviewee: 's hold system/dial a system are strong selling poitns fo the series etc. Also, the versions of moves that come out of the S hold system do differ from the ones you would see if you had put in the input normally, so there will be a use for the s hold system even above intermediate level." interviewer: 'ah. and shadow type?" interviewee: '(explains how shadow type works)' interviewer: "also, starting with the last loketest it seems that peoples' impressions have been that it's become much harder to do okizeme overall?" interviewee: "ah, yes, that has definitely been an intentional change. we've been taking the performance of every character into account carefully while planning these changes. we'll be saving a huge amount of player feedback and shooting to polish what we have considerably. we don't plan on changing character's gameplans considerably, but those characters should feel fresh to play." interviewer. "in summary, you're saying banchou's okizeme loop was just fine?" Interviewee: "I suppose so. (laughter). we've definitely changed that part of him though." Interviewer: "I understand. (laughter)" rest of the interview is thanking the arcade owner and all the fans that came out to play, etc.

blah blah kanji still looks strong btw. can explain changes as needed if people are curious. also, nakiri confirmed seeing 2B > 214C chain possible. whaaat LOL

there's been a few things added to the doc that clearly demonstrates elizabeth has potential people didn't know about at the loketest that could lead to her being perfectly fine in the new loketest. sb garu canceling into sb zio when she had 2C boost for garu, etc. also, seriously, you nerds need to figure out what we're going to do for notation for differentiating between awakened moves and normal moves for me. figure out something good immediately so I can post liz notes without confusion lol

sho is not in the current build. junpei is around 10k. dunno on yukari.

will be doing my best to fix the mitsuru notes today-ish based on how the online tourney today goes, it's the section i spent the least time on since I don't know some of the terms they're using in her combo notes and I figured LK would sit down and plow through it at some point, but it never happened. definitely a bunch of outdated info on there, sorry guys!

for anyone who hasn't noticed, i suggest you check the separate news thread. discussion stays here. visible: teddie, yosuke, shadow kanji, shadow naoto, elizabeth, shadow labrys, narukami, shadow chie, mitsuru, yukari (with shower entrance) iirc. includes SB setsuna + new mitsuru dial A

re: discussion, you can go eyeball some blurry footage in the loketest news thread now

oops i got hit by a suplex hold and a bunch of unlisted videos you guys shouldn't spread around publically or they'll be taken down spilled out???

Yup, dial A = autocombo. I picked up the term from hisoutensoku, no idea if it was used elsewhere. also looks like mitsu's new 5AAA looks a lot like the first part of Myriad Arrows, footage coming ~eventually~

Don't worry too much about liz, there's a lot of things people needed to wait until day 2 to find, and there ARE new combo routes/new tools for liz to use, so they didn't just literally make everything worse and call it a day. As for her awakening moves, 99% chance they're being changed back to being stronger than normal version, as otherwise... yeah. There are a buttload of interesting changes that aren't nerfs listed in the google document posted here/in the news thread already, like D garu being + on block, 5C always floating on hit, 5BBBB being her old autocombo on top of 5AAAA being a new autocombo... there's definitely no need to worry, especially since this is just a loketest.

shadow characters have a .8 modifier on every single move/normal they have. so they do that much less damage per every hit and special that they do, supers too, etc. doing the exact same combo between versions that would deal 1000 damage, would deal 800. etc. liz is garbage right now. her awakening mode moves honestly sound WORSE than her normal version moves, so it's guaranteed to change.

Ho-chan's summary moved to the news thread here so the info will not be buried. Discussion stays in this thread.

ho-chan posted about it on twitter. it could easily be just that wiping all out plays depending on the matchup ala BB, but the important note is that the theme is definitely in the game now. Doubt battle for everyone's souls is removed.

should be aok to help out as usual! since the 360 tourney looks kind of dead, unless there's entrants i'm not aware of I'll likely be skipping it (since it isn't happening ww) + will be busy on loketest translations in the meantime

or Akihiko's level 2 corkscrew, Shadow Labrys' persona 5C punch, mitsuru's droit knockdowns. It's a long, comboable state with fixed hitstun that the opponent can't latetech. How comboable it will be will be seen, but in corner it should be fine. read: assuming it's the same universal 'slide' effect and not the more ghetto variety.

info for shadow labrys has been scarce, that or people aren't pointing me in the right direction. granted i haven't checked sorashido's twitter, brb

thank you, it means a lot to me someone is keeping up and watching the forum

http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?17350-P4Suplex-Loketest-2-Info-sharing-News-Video-thread There is now a thread specific for posting news/information! No discussion at all in there, so we can keep it nice and clean with new info only. I'll be doing my best to delete/trim it as much as possible for everyone's sake.

Alright! Similar to what Circuitous did for the TGS BBCP hype thread, this will be a separate thread for all of the information, videos and news that comes out of the new Persona 4: The Ultimax Ultra Suplex hold Location test #2! This thread is separate from the main news discussion thread so we can have loketest 2 specific information for people to read without having to sift through extra posts! THIS THREAD IS FOR INFO/VIDEOS/NEWS ONLY. THIS WILL BE ENFORCED Feel free to link whatever information, both english/japanese as long as you post the source where it came from (most likely tweets, evernotes, and jp bbses) and proceed to discuss it in the main discussion thread as you please! If it is in Japanese, I/whoever else who can translate will likely try to go through it if there's any valuable info in it. Please try to avoid posting information without a source, the last thing we need is unfounded rumors getting people excited. :< compiled information will most likely be here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1P3-fyaHUzfgguGgELgt-Cw0QapJ2ZhvZZV8o2kL0BUg/edit#

good people to follow for this loketest: for ~anything~ elizabeth related, okusan will be putting the info out: https://twitter.com/okusan_nikuya yukiko and anything else he can pass on, ho-chan/stunedge: https://twitter.com/hc0519 denpa for naoto stuff: https://twitter.com/radiowave777 bobu for labrys: https://twitter.com/bob00318 i believe domi was letting some info for akihiko out last time: https://twitter.com/dwomy hama did info for narukami last time, I don't have a link to his twitter however for -everything- kanji related, and a long smattering of other info I'll be translating as people get it to me of every character variety (with #1 priority being Kanji), my twitter - https://twitter.com/Omecross https://www.evernote.com/shard/s43/sh/0e9b830d-5702-4866-a1d5-0c8e1e1c2a8f/c7f1fbbc1497cce8cfc1b1cf907c8732 this evernote SHOULD be updated with new information, run by ho-chan similarly. that's the best i've got for the moment of who to look at/follow, but I'll be buying some caffine and doing nothing else the loketest weekend like I did last time but translating and doing my best to keep everyone updated/all the info accurate. Edit: on that note, similar to the pastebins of yesterloketest, I will be doing my best to keep absolutely all new info compiled/translated into https://docs.google.com/document/d/1P3-fyaHUzfgguGgELgt-Cw0QapJ2ZhvZZV8o2kL0BUg/edit# this location. bookmark it!

one of aigis' new supers is supposedly an air command grab or something of that variety. we can hope.

considering the size of the usa's p4 scene, if you're a kanji player, see a list of kanji player names and can recognize 2, 3 of them that aren't your own, you're pretty much saying that by default w