Marisa Posted September 29, 2010 Posted September 29, 2010 So I've been maining Carl since CT and finally decided I should do what's best for me and bought an arcade stick (BB TE :D). I know the general rule is to do what's comfortable and I've read the stick threads in the Beginner forum, and I'd like to clarify I'm not asking for advice exactly. I just want to know what kind of grip and button layout other Carls around here are using and what made you pick it? I'm personally looking at using a wine glass grip, modified slightly for comfort (Carl hop I imagine eats into the wrist), and the DBC layout since I'd rather be better in control of Nirvana than better able to spam A. I'm open to being told my reasons are stupid as I'm only theory fighting at the moment as my stick is still a couple days away. Forgive me if this has been covered before or if I'm making an ass of myself posting it here.
ZONG_one Posted September 29, 2010 Posted September 29, 2010 You're really going to have to try setups and motions until you can find a grip where you can do them all without switching grips. Certain grips let you backdash/forward dash easier, but you won't be able to IAD or something. IAD is most important, but what if it's hard for you to input a certain direction holding it that way? You're basically gonna be like for a few weeks until you find a happy medium. I personally put my thumb almost on top/right side of the ball, and.. ahhh I'll just take a picture while I'm holding it to show you my grip, I'm about to go play some GG for a few mins anyway.
Akiro Posted September 29, 2010 Posted September 29, 2010 I love Carl's DDs <3 I also love using Fermata if I reset my 6D loop with 6C, it seems to be the most optimal use for me right now, unless I can catch my opponent in the air with a throw and they throw reject. Then I can UB Fermata them. 5B>2B>3C>Big Bang Upper>Insert Follow Up Combo Of Choice Here. Also regarding switching to a stick. I bitched and moaned for weeks when I first got mine, but then EVERY single time I turned Blazblue on, I did Carl's 9th Challenge, and made sure I completed it once before I did anything else. Lo and Behold, I mastered my stick within 5 days. :O maybe that'll help you.
Kyle Posted September 29, 2010 Posted September 29, 2010 Great application of Carl's Challenge mode: Honestly. EDIT- Zong_One is our #3 guys. He's got XBL just for it.
Xithmos Posted September 30, 2010 Posted September 30, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXJJRgVHK-w&feature=sub Really hype combo against Jin. j2C alle~can>5B>[6D]B>j2C alle~can>5B>repeat
njmamm Posted September 30, 2010 Posted September 30, 2010 Yeah, it only works crouching. I'm pretty sure Kyle covered that though. He did something like that for all characters with Carl by himself. But it's cool that someone thought to keep it up with Nirvana pushing in the corner.
JG Posted September 30, 2010 Posted September 30, 2010 Yeah, it only works crouching. I'm pretty sure Kyle covered that though. He did something like that for all characters with Carl by himself. But it's cool that someone thought to keep it up with Nirvana pushing in the corner. No men.. i have test it vs jin when he is stand and it work... the trick is you need to do 9j.2c. Any good tip for performing j.2c Allecan 4]D[ 5c?
njmamm Posted September 30, 2010 Posted September 30, 2010 Oh, well, I guess Jin IS sorta tall... Or maybe standing only works with Nirvana pushing... For the 4D thing, I believe you should actually input it before 5C, as soon as you alle-can, then 5C j.B
feri Posted October 1, 2010 Posted October 1, 2010 Anyone mess with SUPER DEEP j.C > 3C in sandwich to avoid j.C > 5B > 2B > 3C? :] - Going from Sandwich loop > 2D loop [D] 5B 2B 5C 6]D[ j.C **3C+[D] (2D loop)x1 5C+[D] j.B 8]D[ (2D loop)x2~3 2C~8D or end with j.2C+[D] wait 2147C+]D[ Dated 3rd March 2010
Kyle Posted October 1, 2010 Posted October 1, 2010 trying to get better with my NoTension burst punishes, too often I Jump & block burst just to have 5B/5C whiff for whatever dumb reason. Anyone else gotten good at jump, IB, Airdash, J.2C, Alle~can while opponent is grounded?
ZONG_one Posted October 1, 2010 Posted October 1, 2010 Thanks feri, I did not know optimal combo for that. Kyle. You're hyping me for 3v3 too hard. lol. When I said I can't do combos online, I meant it rofl. Don't wanna let you down, even if it's just netplay. :]
currentlemon Posted October 1, 2010 Posted October 1, 2010 Ughh, I want to drop Jin and try out Carl and I'm trying to do his challenges. But I'm stuck on mission #5(it was the first combo). Such a pain in the ass . Any tips on him before I go online(well besides practicing a lot).
ZONG_one Posted October 1, 2010 Posted October 1, 2010 Learn some combos. I went straight online in CT when I was learning, and I lost like 50 in a row. Unless you're fine dealing with frustration, I'd do some practicing first.
feri Posted October 1, 2010 Posted October 1, 2010 It couldnt possibly be optimal since that tech is long outdated but meh whatever. Isu is the one with the max dmg combos.
ZONG_one Posted October 1, 2010 Posted October 1, 2010 It couldnt possibly be optimal since that tech is long outdated but meh whatever. Isu is the one with the max dmg combos. Isu's are too hard to randomly hit confirm to be optimal.
The Noble Clap Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 Hay Guise I need some help training with the timing on teleportation/3C and 2D loops. Can anyone halp? Get gamed by Richi and Bang sucks so hard its not even funny
Akira-Shiro Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 trying to get better with my NoTension burst punishes, too often I Jump & block burst just to have 5B/5C whiff for whatever dumb reason. Anyone else gotten good at jump, IB, Airdash, J.2C, Alle~can while opponent is grounded? In this game i swear they increased the inv frams ?.? on the burst, & increase the recovery time >.> cause using a DD to bait burst dont work like it use to ?.? I still get smacked back....... >.> unless ur carl lol But if u J.block a burst u can punish wit J.b but u gotta wat till the last sec -_- timing it is hard but after a min it becomes 2nd nature
currentlemon Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 What are some common block-strings for Carl when he is alone and with Nirvana?
Kyle Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 anything into a jump cancel moev where you proceed to jump away!
Akira-Shiro Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 anything into a jump cancel moev where you proceed to jump away! XD LMAO just like hazama says without Ada u should "Run Run!!!!" Or u could play mix-up with them like 5a>2a>5a>6c or 2a>5a>2a>5a>22D>5b IAD J.2c alecan ( Insert sandwich combo )
4Corners Posted October 3, 2010 Posted October 3, 2010 You can also abuse purple throws to burn time and get yourself some space. j.a*n>purp throw, lolol re: Hey, I'm having a lot of trouble landing the second j.2c shown here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWWW2vKPT-Q Any help?
ZONG_one Posted October 3, 2010 Posted October 3, 2010 Depends on a lot of stuff, actually. Try holding 9 for immediate jump cancel/link? lol I know it's not a jc but whatever. Also, try super jumping.
Mascarpone Posted October 4, 2010 Posted October 4, 2010 best thing i can ever come up with is to try to land 5b iad-j.2c cross ups into summon combos or at least summon -> block string and mix up.
JG Posted October 4, 2010 Posted October 4, 2010 Any tips vs Valkenhayn? i dont know what to do against him....
njmamm Posted October 4, 2010 Posted October 4, 2010 You should go check the matchup section for all matchup-specific questions and stuff. ^.^ I'd try to help you right now but I barely know him myself. But, you could be a bit more specific in asking your questions. I'm sure that'll help.
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