Le Reveur Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 I'm a Noel user, still pretty noobish, however I'm committed to using her and making her my main. The question is if it's a good idea to learn how to use the other characters? I've literally have not used ANY other character ever since picking up BlazBlue about a week ago. Not even touching them, only playing against them. Am I missing out, or from a tactical point of view, using other characters to learn how to beat them with Noel. . I really want to get good with Noel, so I don't really feel like like using anyone else at all. Tnx for your help.
Amadeus46Art Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 Hmm, I did about the same thing as you as Ragna. If you stick with one character you'll get good with them pretty much no matter what. Still, I recommend at least playing with the other characters some so you'll know what to expect from them. Plus, you're still early enough in the game that if you decide to main another character, you haven't built up habits as a Noel user.
dragontamer Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 I'd learn how to play them so that you learn how things happen. IE: you learn that reversal DPs require a bit of buffering skill as you play with Ragna. But Noel doesn't have any attack aside from 236236D that can be done as a reversal. Application? I've learned to throw more lows out and spam 5A more intelligently.
killionaire Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 Doing the same with lolimain.. It makes sense, after all.. If you're just starting out, it's best to just stick with one character, since splitting your time at such an early point would slow down your progress considerably. However, like I did, at least attempt to look at and try out everyone else's moves, so you won't get surprised when Bang sweeps your feet from the floor.
Le Reveur Posted January 9, 2010 Author Posted January 9, 2010 tnx, i think ill just use everybody's moves on training, so at least I won't be suprised for what comes ahead. I'm sure I'm maining Noel, but I'll use other characters just to learn there tactics, and what not.
Obsessed Posted January 9, 2010 Posted January 9, 2010 I too would recommend trying every character. I've shifted my main 5 times as I cycled through the cast. You might find someone that feels more natural to you. Of course if you do end up sticking with Noel then don't feel discouraged. From what I could tell you were pulling her combos off without too much trouble. The only problem is that you sometimes rushed into moves (especially when I was using Tager against you), or you failed to block (I kept getting you with Nu's rolling ground blade). You should also air block more.
Le Reveur Posted January 9, 2010 Author Posted January 9, 2010 Tnx Con,I should work on my defense, and stop rushing too much. Imworking on it at the moment.
Desperado Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 Using more characters, in my opinion, improves your game. It provides more perspective as well as adds the tactical aspect of that character to your arsenal of general knowledge. Learning the speed and options of other character, via walking in their shoes, really gives you the edge when you have to face that character. Also when you hit your plateau with your character (it's the worse and it happens to everyone!) having a second character can help you through it; give your eyes and your hands a change of pace. So for you, new Noel guy, stick with her but once you get comfortable maybe you should give someone else a try as well.
zdravkelja Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 It really helps to learn other characters, because of all mentioned reasons. For example, I learned to play with 8 characters in AC and I'm learning to play with Slayer now. It can also help you improve execution. Eddie because of negative edging, Slayer because of timing (since he doesn't have gatlings, everything is about timing), I-no, she has a lot hcf/b, hcbf motions, and when you learn Chemical Love FRC IAD, you can learn everything The same goes for BB...
KyoKusanagi Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 It really helps to learn other characters, because of all mentioned reasons. For example, I learned to play with 8 characters in AC and I'm learning to play with Slayer now. It can also help you improve execution. Eddie because of negative edging, Slayer because of timing (since he doesn't have gatlings, everything is about timing), I-no, she has a lot hcf/b, hcbf motions, and when you learn Chemical Love FRC IAD, you can learn everything The same goes for BB... I could not have said it better myself. I use Jam, OS, Robo Ky and I am trying to learn Venom and A.B.A each character helps you learn more about some different play styles.
smooshman Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 you don't have to play alot of characters... but you should try to play more than 1... so a main and a sub... you don't have to play all the characters, just the ones you want to play.
Oiboi Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 Learning all the characters will help. Even if just a little bit, understanding how they hold pressure and combo can be a great tool when you're on the other end of it. Even if it's just move properties, you'll learn a great deal.
smooshman Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 Learning all the characters will help. Even if just a little bit, understanding how they hold pressure and combo can be a great tool when you're on the other end of it. Even if it's just move properties, you'll learn a great deal. good point... it'll also help if they have a move that you need to learn, like tager 720's or Noel's flashkick... thingy
lxMetalSonicxl Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 good point... it'll also help if they have a move that you need to learn, like tager 720's or Noel's flashkick... thingy That's just a fighting game standard. What Oiboi said was pretty much all anyone needs to know. inb4lock?
itsme Posted January 11, 2010 Posted January 11, 2010 The only reason I think you should look for a sub is if you just want to have some fun. Messing around with another character does make it a bit easier to enjoy the game itself. In my experience, I would say trying out other characters can give you a general idea of that character, and would make facing one easier. Subbing Hakumen has really helped me keep my eyes out for their combos, and it helped me master IAD faster; not to mention reading bursts better.
Pantsukon Posted January 11, 2010 Posted January 11, 2010 I personally try out everybody, and after having tried everybody, I pick the one that seems, at first, to fit the best to my playing style. It sometimes does change when I retry with some characters for a second time. I'm usually quite versatile. Currently I main Hakumen, I don't know if it'll change with CS, but for now, I'm quite doing fine with him.
zeth07 Posted January 11, 2010 Posted January 11, 2010 @Le Reveur - No offense, but can you please stop making a topic in this forum every 2 days. You made one on the 7th, one on the 9th, and one on the 11th. You do not have to make a topic for EVERYTHING that pops into your head. There seriously should be no way one person needs to make 3 topics in the span of 5 days in the same Forum.
Heroic_Legacy Posted January 11, 2010 Posted January 11, 2010 I started using Hakumen when I first got it. Switched to Tager about 2 weeks later. Everything I know about other characters I've learned it from having the opponent do it to me. I can learn other character combos by watching by Tager get pummeled to shreds and when I learn the strings and timing from blocking them all the time they become IB'able and in turn, 360able. So no, it isn't necessary to use everyone. Just learn everyone's stuff by watching, doing, or seeing it happen.
Heavy_Mental Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 Just learn everyone's stuff by watching, doing, or seeing it happen. I'd imagine it be better to learn the B&Bs of the character. Sure, it'd be more time-consuming, but by learning the characters of your opponents, you are able to put yourself in their shoes and learn how they think. You won't fully understand a matchup if you're looking at it from one single perspective. If you're serious getting good Reveur, I'd recommend getting a decent grasp on what each character can do. And the most thorough way of doing that would be to learn each character. Ultimately I think that would be more rewarding and worthwhile.
mAc Chaos Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 You can try other characters, but I think that's something for later on. You have to just get good at the game first and with your character to be able to try others out.
ryu-bi Posted January 12, 2010 Posted January 12, 2010 I suggest you pick however many characters you need to cover all your bad matchups (if any).
Matt Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 at this whole thread. Learning the combos of another character will teach you NOTHING about that character. It'll just be a waste of your time. Time you could have used learning the damn matchups. Just look at the best of the best. Name one single top player and tell me you have seen him play more than one character. It's pretty rare that you'll see the best of the best stray from their main character. Why? Because it's a waste of their time to learn another character when they could be getting even better with one character. Don't listen to these fools. Stay with one character and until you have learned every single damn possible thing about that character, should you even consider picking up another character.
A.X.I.S. Posted January 13, 2010 Posted January 13, 2010 at this whole thread. Learning the combos of another character will teach you NOTHING about that character. It'll just be a waste of your time. Time you could have used learning the damn matchups. Just look at the best of the best. Name one single top player and tell me you have seen him play more than one character. It's pretty rare that you'll see the best of the best stray from their main character. Why? Because it's a waste of their time to learn another character when they could be getting even better with one character. Don't listen to these fools. Stay with one character and until you have learned every single damn possible thing about that character, should you even consider picking up another character. 1. agreed. 2. its a list of people that comes into mind. 3. its still nice to play with them so you know what attack it is but outside of that your absolutely right, having a extra character doesn't benefit you at all.
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