BB:CS Match-Up Chart

[smooshman]

am i the only 1 that finds it hillarious how every includes makoto in their tier list and not mu who's been out for quite a bit more time?

she's has more combos movies than Jin....

oh and people piss their pants when they see a character do over 3K meterless....

[FlyingVe]

Cause even though Mu has been out for much longer, you still fight Makoto more often?

That and Makoto is alot more straightforward than Mu.

[Seadragon77]

am i the only 1 that finds it hillarious how every includes makoto in their tier list and not mu who's been out for quite a bit more time?

Probably. My feeling is that since Mu is a playable boss character, most people don't exactly put her in the tier list. Maybe once people know more of what Mu can do, she'll be added to the Tier list (The same with Valkenhayn and Platinum the Trinity)

[Afrikaan]

That and Makoto is alot more straightforward than Mu.

Some Japanese guy is going to come out of nowhere with some video of some sort and then you're going to see everyone on Mu's nuts. Or should I say Vag plate.

[Halcyone3]

Cause even though Mu has been out for much longer, you still fight Makoto more often?

they must be getting kicked by the matchmaking, cuz i've only met like 2-3 online besides me. Most of the players with some makoto play on their D-card go tager or haku vs me, not that mu's are abundant, but i've personally met more than makoto's. But judging by the reponses i got, i guess it's purely chance

[FlyingVe]

Most Mu players online don't really play her with any sort of competence. They just spam D and her C series. It's like CT Rachel's who spammed lobelia but didn't know how to set up oki. Still using the average online player to evaluate a character is pretty dumb. I think Mu is High B or Low A tier. She need a knockdown to set up her oki, but there is a lot that she can do once it gets going. Plus getting hit during oki mixup puts you right back in the laser pit.

[kenja0]

It's also much easier to pick up and play Makoto at any sort of skill level. Also most people don't prefer the indirect kind of play style that characters like Mu, Rachel, Arakune, and Lambda go for.

[xSagez]

S: Bang, Litchi, Ragna

A: Hazama, Arakune, Carl, Taokaka, Hakumen

B: Makoto, Lambda, Noel, Mu, Jin

C: Tager, Tsubaki

D: Rachel

GOD TIER: RED LOBSTER (Appetizer biscuit)

[Xiaounlimited]

Here is a tier list that most people can relate to (especially the new players who believe tier lists are fully definitive, regardless of skill level)

The Ultimate Scrub-level Netplay Tier List

S: Tager, Noel

A: Jin, Taokaka

B: Makoto

F-: Hakumen, Ragna, Hazama, Lambda, Carl, Tsubaki, Mu, Rachel

Z-: Bang, Litchi

[FlyingVe]

Can we please at least wait until the japanese post their revised tier lists before we all start posting our own individual hair brained lists? ALso, posting things like "scrub lists" and "netplay lists" holds absolutely no value.

@Xiaounlimited: Tiers do matter. While a good player will usually beat a bad player, ignoring the tier list and matchups is just stupid.

[Yukikaze]

I hope Makoto does end up B tier or lower so then she can receive some buffs later on :D.

Actually do you guys think Mu and Makoto changes will be included in the new balance patch or is it too early for them?

[Halcyone3]

I hope Makoto does end up B tier or lower so then she can receive some buffs later on :D.

Actually do you guys think Mu and Makoto changes will be included in the new balance patch or is it too early for them?

The whole point of their release around this time seems to be so they get some playtesting on console. So I'd assume yes.

[xSagez]

I hope Makoto does end up B tier or lower so then she can receive some buffs later on :D.

Actually do you guys think Mu and Makoto changes will be included in the new balance patch or is it too early for them?

When is this patch going to be released and where do you even here about stuff like upcoming patches?

[Edge Reaper]

.....Meh. Biased Tier List...

S- Bang, Litchi

A- Ragna, Hakumen, Mu, Hazama, Arakune

B- Tsubaki, Makoto ,Taokaka, Lambda, Jin, Noel

C- Tager, Carl , Rachel

Honestly, I have yet to see how Carl has gotten any better. Probably because I'm playing online, or because I play a counter happy Haku, but this kid is still as bad as before.

[SolheartStud]

I hope Makoto does end up B tier or lower so then she can receive some buffs later on :D.

Actually do you guys think Mu and Makoto changes will be included in the new balance patch or is it too early for them?

I would hope so. I think thats the whole reason why we have to wait six(probably five months now) for a balance patch so in that time people have already played with Mu and the rest of the DLC characters to find out what needs some tuning.

When is this patch going to be released and where do you even here about stuff like upcoming patches?

It's going to be released in about five months now I think....I believe info like that is reported on the Blazblue News and info Forum if I'm not mistaken.

[Spinzaku]

S: Litchi, Bang

A: Arakune, Ragna, Hakumen

B: Carl, Taokaka, Hazama, Mu, Lambda, Makoto, Jin

C: Noel, Tager, Tsubaki

D: Rachel

personal opinion. I don't think ragna should be in S tier, nor should carl be in A tier. Mu/Makoto are just rough estimates.

[Spirit Juice]

This is not a tier list thread. Enough with the personal tier lists.

[Leaf]

In accordance with Leonil_Requiem (Leonil) and Xill (Seon Panther)

[Seifuuku]

In accordance with Leonil_Requiem (Leonil) and Xill (Seon Panther)

seriously, almost no one else laughed at this?

[ZhePrime]

I actually think Makoto is pretty balanced atm. If they balance the top and bottom tier chars she would be fine. Buffing stuff like her Asteroid Vision or her normals and mix-up game and she would work her way to the top easily.

[Mattattatt]

.....Meh. Biased Tier List...

S- Bang, Litchi

A- Ragna, Hakumen, Mu, Hazama, Arakune

B- Tsubaki, Makoto ,Taokaka, Lambda, Jin, Noel

C- Tager, Carl , Rachel

Honestly, I have yet to see how Carl has gotten any better. Probably because I'm playing online, or because I play a counter happy Haku, but this kid is still as bad as before.

wat:psyduck:

[Edge Reaper]

wat:psyduck:

Like I said, its probably because of playing online so my stuff lacks any form of credence to anyone besides myself.

Tsubaki:She's more or less where she was on the previous match up chart. Its just there are more people below her.

Carl: Kid is terrible. No matter who I play with whatever character I play, I have never lost a match against a CS Carl. Honestly, CT Carl was tougher. CS Carl's rely far too much on Nirvana and make them painfully open to big attacks. Haku-men rips the kid a new one thanks to Yukikaze delay on Nirvana.

Fuck this post was pointless.

[DC]

seriously, almost no one else laughed at this?

lol

I actually think Makoto is pretty balanced atm. If they balance the top and bottom tier chars she would be fine. Buffing stuff like her Asteroid Vision or her normals and mix-up game and she would work her way to the top easily.

No. You haven't played a Makoto who can parry cancel loop.

Like I said, its probably because of playing online so my stuff lacks any form of credence to anyone besides myself.

So if you know you have no type of experience with anything then why bother posting? Your tier list is dumb, moreso than most of the other personal garbage posted here. Sorry.

Carl is not worse than Tager because you've never lost to a Carl player on netplay. Jesus shitting Christ.

[ZONG_one]

Carl: Kid is terrible. No matter who I play with whatever character I play, I have never lost a match against a CS Carl. Honestly, CT Carl was tougher. CS Carl's rely far too much on Nirvana and make them painfully open to big attacks. Haku-men rips the kid a new one thanks to Yukikaze delay on Nirvana.

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I can rape you if that's what you're looking for.

Of course, the severity of the rape may be lessened by lag.

[Afrikaan]

Judging a Character's potential based on what you've played on netplay=lol.

Carl might honestly be equal with Ragna at this point