A.X.I.S. Posted June 28, 2010 Posted June 28, 2010 All i can say is, if you are losing that poorly and not learning anything from your losses, than you DO need to walk away from the game. Losing in GG/BB usually shows me something, but if its to the point where you a losing before you play the match, than you should probably take a few hour break from playing. stepback and reconsider the way you are playing the matchup/person who you are trying to beat, and come at it with a fresh set of eyes, and the willingness to take something from a loss. Whoever said drinking alcohol doesn't help, you are wrong. The 2 times i played online drunk my win% went way up. A complete lack of care for the opponent is why. To shorten it up:Think youll win, get drunk. I don't even know you and I already like the way you think. next time I play BB I'm gonna get plastered as all hell.
Sophisticat Posted June 29, 2010 Posted June 29, 2010 you can't say that ur bad ur my disciple!^^... The losing mentality is thinking that this guy is going to faceroll you whatever you do. The winning mentality is to RISE AGAINST every. Single. Time. Until you win, win again, and keep winning. Hate to lose, train smart, think hard, and overflow with rage against those stronger than you because you belong on top, and you'll tear them down with raw skill to get there! Yo, jk le vieux. Tu sais que je t'aime ben. :P
cookiehours Posted June 29, 2010 Posted June 29, 2010 The losing mentality is thinking that this guy is going to faceroll you whatever you do. The winning mentality is to RISE AGAINST every. Single. Time. Until you win, win again, and keep winning. Hate to lose, train smart, think hard, and overflow with rage against those stronger than you because you belong on top, and you'll tear them down with raw skill to get there! Yo, jk le vieux. Tu sais que je t'aime ben. :P I luff jooooo...T^T
SH-Junkie Posted June 29, 2010 Posted June 29, 2010 The losing mentality is thinking that this guy is going to faceroll you whatever you do. The winning mentality is to RISE AGAINST every. Single. Time. Until you win, win again, and keep winning. Hate to lose, train smart, think hard, and overflow with rage against those stronger than you because you belong on top, and you'll tear them down with raw skill to get there! I kinda don't agree with this. Here is what I think.... The Losing Mentality When someone who plays anything that is considered competitive (i.e. Blazblue, Guilty Gear, Pokemon, Mario Party:?: etc.) and looses then thinks their terrible at the game. What they will do is attempt to get better but go at it at all the wrong angles. I myself went through said mentality and I decided to become better at this game, which I ended up doing, but once in a while when I have those "off days", that everyone gets, it will hit me rather hard. I start to think I suck , which tbh I'm not so great at bb, and get all sad. I know its just a video game, but everyone gets like this no matter who you are. The Winning Mentality When someone who plays competitive games/sports tries his very hardest to become the best. Always keeps a positive attitude on things, although he may go through losing streaks here or there, and pushes himself to the limit. One problem with the winning mentality is that players get really cocky to the point where they think their unstoppable, but when these players loose they end up raging and either blaming the opponent for being cheap or the games mechanics. For example people who say "I NEVER LOOSE!!!!" Yaya747 knows who I'm talking about. Blazblue can have its wtf moments, but I remember a time were someone raged and said "I hate it when fighting games have the ability to block" Anyone who played with me a couple of months ago knows who I'm talking about X3 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Point I'm trying to make is that you should keep a positive outlook on things when playing games, especially blazblue, b/c you don't want to turn out like someone who cry's every time they loose b/c they suck or someone who is like lol I'm S Tier and rages when he or she looses.
MrViceTaicho Posted June 29, 2010 Posted June 29, 2010 lol sophisticat was just joking.....=) i think u didn't understand the french part:''Yo, jk le vieux. Tu sais que je t'aime ben'' that mean that he was just joking and that he love me!and that kindda strange by the way.LOL
cookiehours Posted June 29, 2010 Posted June 29, 2010 lol sophisticat was just joking.....=) i think u didn't understand the french part:''Yo, jk le vieux. Tu sais que je t'aime ben'' that mean that he was just joking and that he love me!and that kindda strange by the way.LOL Eh, I was tired. Sue meh.
SH-Junkie Posted June 29, 2010 Posted June 29, 2010 lol sophisticat was just joking.....=) i think u didn't understand the french part:''Yo, jk le vieux. Tu sais que je t'aime ben'' that mean that he was just joking and that he love me!and that kindda strange by the way.LOL See I never took french in high school. XD
TeeJay Posted June 30, 2010 Posted June 30, 2010 The losing mentality is thinking that this guy is going to faceroll you whatever you do. The winning mentality is to RISE AGAINST every. Single. Time. Until you win, win again, and keep winning. Hate to lose, train smart, think hard, and overflow with rage against those stronger than you because you belong on top, and you'll tear them down with raw skill to get there! Yo, jk le vieux. Tu sais que je t'aime ben. :P lol, I still intend to destroy him lol. I find I start playing worse when I expect to win. That's when i start doing stupid stuff. Gotta break that bad habit.
cookiehours Posted June 30, 2010 Posted June 30, 2010 lol, I still intend to destroy him lol. I find I start playing worse when I expect to win. That's when i start doing stupid stuff. Gotta break that bad habit. You just described me in a nutshell. I expected an easy victory with a Tager I fought in ranked. He was damn good. Then I wanted a rematch. Played him in player matches-got owned. I wanted to cry, I really did. ;___; And it was due to stupid mistakes and trying new things out.
Nodelic2 Posted June 30, 2010 Posted June 30, 2010 I no longer have my 360 around, and even when I do I rarely play it now (since my arcade stick only works with my PS3, I'm waiting for BBCS) online. But I do have a friend that I can always practice with IRL (who's moving away ). He's better than me in so many ways and I always get my ass handed to me about 9 times out of 10, sometimes more. But there are two things that I always keep in mind. First is that it's a game, a competitive one, but I'm playing to have fun not simply to win, and second when I get too worked up about losing, it's time for a break. Just give myself some time to calm down and come back in like 30 min or whatever. When I come back with a clear mind, it's much easier to learn about my mistakes because my frustration often clouds my ability to learn from my mistakes well. I've edited this post so many times. I should have payed more attention in English.
Thanatos Call Posted July 2, 2010 Posted July 2, 2010 I really don't mind losing. It drives me to try to improve so that I can return the favor. =w=
Poizonous Flour Posted July 3, 2010 Posted July 3, 2010 Losing sucks... losing a bunch sucks harder. The first post of this thread nailed it so well, but I have to admit that online BB is something no-one should be taking seriously, especially on PSN. What is amazing is the amount of people who do take it seriously... The best way to deal with taking a bunch of losses. 1) Take a break: Stated too many times, and it works. Anger leads to more anger if you keep playing. 2) Play a different char: If you are going to lose, at least you know it wasn't with your main. 3) Learn from it: Don't try to beat him the next time you fight, instead block and see what he does. (You won't win, most likely... but you'll get to see what he pokes with and that might be his/her undoing.) 4) Switch your playstyle (if you have another one): Obviously your first one didn't work... Try switching offensive for defensive, and vice-versa. 5) Blame something else: Crap controller, stupid PSN/XBOX LIVE lag, light from TV in my eyes... anything is better than blaming yourself for a losing streak. Sometimes, you just have a bad day and need a scapegoat. Becoming good at anything doesn't happen overnight. When you are losing, keep in mind. EVERYONE loses... there is no way to improve without losing. The best thing to do about losses is to learn from them, but seriously... I know sometimes I feel like I did all I could do in the match and still lost. I take a day to think about it. Then try something new. Losing isn't the end of the world. You have forever to get your win percentage back up, so why not practice blocking up your holes. A pretty good way to practice for online is to face unlimited Ragna Hell CPU as if you were going to face an online opponent. Try only the pokes you would do in a typical online match. Don't bait Inferno Divider and trust me, you will know your gaps, he will Inferno/Carnage ALL OF THEM. Then you can adjust your playstyle accordingly. I hate losing... it isn't fun. However, learning to not give up is a lot harder... some people just are not made up with a lot of tenacity and patience. If you were having a bad day, losing just puts more salt on the wound as well. Know your limits... and just walk away.
Dacidbro Posted July 3, 2010 Posted July 3, 2010 My own thoughts on the above: Taking a break is good. Playing a different character will condition you to turn off every time you lose.. it's not a good tournament mentality. When you lose that first set, you can't just say "It's over", you need to get the counter download. Learn from it is great advice, but you can do that without auto-losing. Switching your playstyle should be constant. Your opponent should never understand what you're going to do, unless they can't stop it and you're abusing that. BLAME SOMETHING ELSE?! NOOOOOOOOOO. Take accountability and improve. :c Facing a CPU will never help. It has none of the honest oki or playability of a human opponent, so it conditions you into bad habits and convinces you blockstrings should be airtight, which isn't even always a good thing.
solshido Posted July 3, 2010 Posted July 3, 2010 sometimes i go through losing slumps (which is not everyday btw) most of the time i just say to my self "hey, get the fuck movin and do some work." but its all about the fun of the game so hey im just happy to play strong people, it quite the learning experience to me.
pktazn Posted July 4, 2010 Posted July 4, 2010 BLAME SOMETHING ELSE?! NOOOOOOOOOO. Take accountability and improve. :c I agree with this. Blaming something else will never help you to improve your own gameplay. Yes there are some online factors (if you're playing online) that come into play but you're still the one controlling the character. If you keep blaming others instead of trying to see what you did wrong and fixing/improving on it you'll never grow.
Ronin177 Posted July 5, 2010 Posted July 5, 2010 I agree with this. Blaming something else will never help you to improve your own gameplay. Yes there are some online factors (if you're playing online) that come into play but you're still the one controlling the character. If you keep blaming others instead of trying to see what you did wrong and fixing/improving on it you'll never grow. Took me a while to learn this when I first started playing Fighting games online. I've had days where I'd lose 10-15 matches in a row and would rage over things that didn't cause me to lose. But over time, I learned that I'm the only person to blame for my losses and just improve do better next time.
Poizonous Flour Posted July 5, 2010 Posted July 5, 2010 Uhhh... that depends on how you look at it. Blaming something else temporarily does help in the short term. It could keep you from raging at the moment. It isn't a permanent solution, but it helps. As far as I know, games exist for the fun factor... we should leave tournament mentality for its own thread. Some people just want to play this game to pass the time, and have a little fun. Becoming better isn't something everyone strives for... but it does happen as you get more experience with the game. In that case, some people play for the sake of playing. Others play so they can destroy everyone online/offline. Some people have access to other people who can play BB, and others do not. I'm kinda lucky to have access to a nearby arcade, and people who play BB on a daily basis. But, some people don't have that... online is their only way to face human opponents. So, I tried to give advice for all people instead of just one group. Obviously, everyone should just suck up a loss and try to get better by learning from mistakes. I love to play in tournaments and concentrate on the game but, sometimes... it is just better to take BB a little less seriously. It is just a game after all.
currentlemon Posted July 5, 2010 Posted July 5, 2010 If your frustrated by losing, my advice is to... 1. Stop playing 2. Take a break, go outside and get some fresh air. 3. Take a nap. 4. Listen to music that you like. I recommend classical music or jazz music. It can ease your nerves and calm you down. Try Chuck Mangione, Cyndi Lauper(recommend True Colors) or others.
Keo-bas Posted July 5, 2010 Posted July 5, 2010 The first thing to do when even steeping into competition environment is recognizing that losing is part of it. Their will always be a winner and loser. I think majority of people who suffer losing streak tend to forget that. Its true that majority of people mindset is about winning but if it gets to the point that you forget about losing than it makes dealing with them a lot harder IMO. i think players needs to go in with a mindset expecting that their are capable of losing. I think when player train or practice in game, their mindset is to prevent losing as much as possible, when it should be more of developing understanding for the game system and develop your own sense of play style for that game. Because no matter the amount of effort you put into something to avoid that losing experience, your never going to be completely immune to it. Now if it gets to the point where losing is uncomfortable than theirs another issue that needs to be address and it has to start with your self. Admittedly I love fair play and balance settings as the next person but I also accepted that some games will not have the ideal balance. If your struggling with trying to improve on a game, then it simply may be that you don't have the right mindset for that game. Every fighting game has a prefer play style to invoke and if you are unable to play it than the game simply wasn't design for you. You can still try to learned the game but if that experience itself becomes unpleasant than I advise leaving that game alone. Honestly losing can become string to many things but the first priority of dealing with it is to not become stress. If that isn't possible than just leave what ever making you frustrated alone. I think online competition should not be taken seriously at all but as a learning experience for character match ups and to understand the game being played. ( more on character match up because online interference can distort a game mechanics as well)
Hi I'm Asylum Posted July 6, 2010 Posted July 6, 2010 Sigh. Just lost 10 matches in a row and now I'm at a 27.7 w/l percent.
sdmdx Posted July 6, 2010 Posted July 6, 2010 My thoughts: 1)Sometimes you lose because the player is just simply on another level than you. That is when it is a learning experience. 2)If the other guy wants the win more than you, in my opinion you deserve to lose. Don't fret too much over one bad loss or when you lose a very close match with someone. 3)If you are online, avoid laggy matches or matches with people known to troll or just overall make the entire experience not an enjoyable one. 4)Seriously, if you're on a major losing streak and it is really starting to bug you, take a break for a few days, play something else, or just talk to people that you know will cheer you up or are simply fun to talk to. 5)Sometimes people have off days. If a losing streak just randomly happened then it just might not be your day. 6)It is true that you should not take your losses very hard, but don't get overly excited or cocky when you win. You should be confident that you can win, that you WILL win, but never go into a match just expecting the victory on a silver platter. You have to WANT to earn it, not just receive it. 7)As for blaming it on something else, sometimes "blaming" can be a legit reason for your loss. But if its something like the connection was laggy or the controller is broken, that technically is your fault for not replacing broken equipment and if you knew the connection was going to suck why did you fight in the first place? 8)The "losing streak mentality" is a very tough one to break. You have to be mentally strong, because sometimes tons of practice just doesn't cut it. In the training room practicing combos and blockstrings just doesn't compare to the real thing. To break the mentality, you have to really want to break it while working very hard to do so. Also, you have to really love the game and have the killer instinct (talking to you sax! ) I used to suck. Just ask TeeJay. I was literally an overnight success, something just clicked the next day. Now I'm pretty decent. I just suffered a losing streak to people that I normally dispatch. What's going through my head? I'll just simply get them next time. But don't use the "next time" as an excuse to continue losing. "I'll win next time" means that you are going to pinpoint your problem and fix it. Plz tell me if'n yew folks disagree
Mr Oso Posted July 6, 2010 Posted July 6, 2010 2)If the other guy wants the win more than you, in my opinion you deserve to lose. Lawl
TeeJay Posted July 6, 2010 Posted July 6, 2010 Don't make the mistake and over-think things too much. I went on a losing streak trying to drastically change my Ragna before I switched to Litchi as my main. Tweak, don't make too large adjustments. If you have too, recognize you will lose a lot in order to break that habit. Vice suggested I jump less. I couldn't change on the fly and be competitive against him in our next match. So I had to decide to charge more after baiting CH and other small modifications. Well, if you can go drastic, kudos to you.
Xill Posted July 8, 2010 Posted July 8, 2010 Losing sucks for the most part. But losing while having no clue what you can do to get over that hump is a hell lot worst. Only thing about that is when you try talking to people about moves certain time, you'll get people that wanna brag about how much they stomp'd you vs telling you what you need to know. Its silly and annoying, but sadly most fighters are all about that. Which kinda make me But yeah. I'll take 100 loses with me getting help to figure out something new vs 10 easy wins anyday.
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