Ryd' Posted January 8, 2015 Posted January 8, 2015 I'm speaking from P4A, where Yukiko was the only character who had nothing faster than 7f (2A/throw) on the ground. Every other character had something they could do to discourage Chie from abusing it, even if it was just IB throw if Chie was trying to do it right up in your face, or trade with a 6f poke. And you're right, you don't really see good Chies abusing it in most matchups. And then there's a particular set with Stunedge, where there was substantially more 5A spam, and he's forced to sit there because Yukiko's options after a naked 5A consisted of "jack shit" and "get fucked". "Zoning character losing vs close-range rushdown character if they get in" is all well and good; I'm used to that from stuff like Testament vs Jam, and I wouldn't have had too much a problem with it in P4A if Chie didn't also have Meteors (and I used to think FB Puffball was dumb...) to fall back on if she hit awakening, which was generally a given because of Yukiko's lack of reliable high damage starters and Chie being able to spam DP to push herself into it if she was close. You don't make a character nigh-unpeelable while also giving them phenomenal oki, mixup, and a full screen "I'm going in because fuck you" option while having legit reversals on top of it all. And stupid shit like 5A 5A microdash 5A pause (still awake?) 5A 5B!!! Black Spot dash 5A... as legit blockstrings is both mindless and boring as hell to watch, let alone deal with. But hey, previous game, old rant, whatever. Some stuff's probably changed in P4A2 (just looking at frame data, 5A was made +0(?) and Yukiko was given a 5f throw, so that shit isn't completely free anymore), but I've only played that a couple of times and gave up on Yukiko before it even came out since they felt the need to nerf her (lol) and take away most of her fun stuff.
LegendaryRath Posted January 8, 2015 Posted January 8, 2015 I was looking at P4U2 frame data, yeah. In vanilla... that definitely wasn't fun haha. EDIT: I really thought it was still +1 this version. I would double check the frame data in game. It's possible some of the stuff on the wiki is wrong because there wasn't an active chie mod until recently, and some of the mook data was wrong. Also, Ruben. There's an incredibly high chance that Aigis will always be quite strong. I'll talk to you about it sometime.
LegendaryRath Posted January 9, 2015 Posted January 9, 2015 There's several videos showing off the buffs for each character in P4U2 2.0. Not sure this is a buff but it's hilarious https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPRDUA21Img#t=219 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQjGykCskMY&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPRDUA21Img https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjVCdJaSHAU&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bsOB5noBYc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIy7SocmMaA
Bearell Posted January 9, 2015 Posted January 9, 2015 They really didn't want that curry. On a serious note, i was curious as to what the point of making tentarafoo fatal counter was, but it makes sense now. Not sure how viable of a punish it'll be though, or if it'll make me want to use it more.
APinkBuny Posted January 9, 2015 Posted January 9, 2015 anyone mind posting the AZ Air Assault info. Facebook is not some thing I use or ever want to make a profile on.
Ryd' Posted January 9, 2015 Posted January 9, 2015 The event will be located at UAT (University of Advancing Technology) in room 206/207 on the second floor of the main building (the building closest to Baseline road). Just follow the sound of arcade sticks and you should be good. I will be there by 1:00pm setting up the stream. Feel free to stop by then for casuals before the first tournament, and throughout the day. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO BRING SETUPS FOR CASUALS. The more the merrier. Games will be: -2:30pm, Persona 4: Ultimax [PS3] *signups end at 2:15 -4:30pm, Under Night in-Birth Exe:Late [PS3] *signups end at 4:15 -6:30pm, Guilty Gear Xrd -Sign- [PS3] *signups end at 6:15 Format/Rules (all tournaments): -double elimination -all matches are 2 out of 3 wins -grand finals is 3 out of 5 wins -regarding disconnecting controllers, paused matches, etc. it's up to the players what happens. I don't think anyone here is going to make a scene because your controller disconnected, especially since there's no money on the line.
Orrax Posted January 10, 2015 Posted January 10, 2015 Hey Tucson people, I'm looking forward to meeting you guys at Maker House this Thurs and receiving some solid beat-downs. But since I've never been to one of these things, I was wondering what games will be there and should I bring a setup? Any other advice for someone who's never played outside their own house? Hey, just wanted to say I'm glad you could make it out! I'm sorry I didn't get a chance to play you guys -- let alone properly introduce myself -- but it seemed like you got to play Marvin and Ted a fair amount. Hopefully I'll see you at some more events in the future.
LegendaryRath Posted January 10, 2015 Posted January 10, 2015 anyone mind posting the AZ Air Assault info. Facebook is not some thing I use or ever want to make a profile on. To add to what Carlos quoted, here's the address. 2625 W Baseline Rd, Tempe, Arizona 85283
Tempered Posted January 10, 2015 Posted January 10, 2015 Going to be hosting Tonight (sat) After 8 till about 4. Feel free to come out. Just remember the space isn't to big. We have about 3 setups with room for a 4th if someone wants to bring one.
LegendaryRath Posted January 10, 2015 Posted January 10, 2015 Ruben, Jimmy... Here's your P4U2 2.0 Aigis changes, translated by stunedge https://www.evernote.com/shard/s43/sh/289d3d8b-5d57-4331-b460-8e6fe01005c2/6514f787b6b7dca3
LegendaryRath Posted January 11, 2015 Posted January 11, 2015 Going to be hosting Tonight (sat) After 8 till about 4. Feel free to come out. Just remember the space isn't to big. We have about 3 setups with room for a 4th if someone wants to bring one. I'll be there with Kevin
LegendaryRath Posted January 11, 2015 Posted January 11, 2015 Thanks for hosting, Tempered In-n-Out was fun times
H-F Blade Posted January 11, 2015 Posted January 11, 2015 GGs to everyone last night! @Ray: Whatever it is the other guys told you regarding what I said about you, it's NOT true. But I will say you missed the opportunity to play Melty and MBHDR last night.
LegendaryRath Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 @Ray: Whatever it is the other guys told you regarding what I said about you, it's NOT true. You fell into my trap. I told Ray that you didn't say anything. You apparently said some shit.
KosukeKGA Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nhs3-wsm95Y
Theupstreamer Posted January 12, 2015 Posted January 12, 2015 You know you're A-list when people talk about you all the time when you're not there.
LegendaryRath Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 Ted, I'm running Melty next month, just so you know.
LegendaryRath Posted January 16, 2015 Posted January 16, 2015 Just wanted to make sure I wasn't giving you the wrong idea. I'm sure if you want to play melty this month, people will be happy to play with you
Ryuuka Posted January 17, 2015 Posted January 17, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awUTvzegFEU Looks like Ogawa is maining another game.
TagAnarchy Posted January 20, 2015 Posted January 20, 2015 It's time for the "Not Everyone Wins" Show: 2015 Edition! This is going to be hosted on Twitch's own channel tomorrow, so keep watch. Prepare your unsalted popcorn folks, because no matter what makes it in, the salt will flow regardless. 8PM Our Time: http://www.twitch.tv/twitch UNIEL for main stage!
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