EternalLurker Posted October 27, 2009 Posted October 27, 2009 a lot of people don't have [Nicovideo]"Have" it? It's not like you have to pay to make an account...why don't people just make one? <_< If they can't figure out the interface without translating things manually, they can always switch the "www" to "es" in any Nicovideo URL for an easy-to-read Spanish version. ^_^ But yes, there are a few helpful sites like NeoVid's.
Blackgenma Posted October 27, 2009 Posted October 27, 2009 "Have" it? It's not like you have to pay to make an account...why don't people just make one? <_< If they can't figure out the interface without translating things manually, they can always switch the "www" to "es" in any Nicovideo URL for an easy-to-read Spanish version. ^_^ But yes, there are a few helpful sites like NeoVid's. that thing doesn't work for me (not that I need it). and I meant an account, sorry for that typo. but yeah, anyone interested in a tournament this weekend?? Friday Saturday, and maybe Sunday I'm available to do a little tournament.
Sol.Badguy Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 Oh man a tournament like that would be so much fun..It's always scary playing sol in actual serious situations though considering how weak servents are..
Sol.Badguy Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 oh, and that one with ky doing y, MC, Stun edge, y, leaving them stunned is dirrrty xD
Blackgenma Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 oh, and that one with ky doing y, MC, Stun edge, y, leaving them stunned is dirrrty xD no, the combos where sin and Sol do 350+ damage for almost no tension are dirty . but yeah, I hear what you mean by playing with Sol. it's worse with Paradigm, because I'm really used to Sol's units, so I'm not bad with them. with paradigm, I fear for my life with every master fight. you said you did a 384 damage combo with Sol. can you tell me what that combo is? oh, and forget the tournament Idea, I don't think enough people will join to get a worthy tournament going on. but I'd like to face your Sol 1 on 1 this weekend though. I'll be on boundary's account, lets play using default rules.
Fenrir Werwolf Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 I think that actually almost 6 people are active for a tournament. if we start now to take notice, maybe it can start....start signing!
Blackgenma Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 This game really isn't easy to pick up at all. You have to genuinely want to get good at it, and put forth the effort, and considering how dead the online is, not a lot of people really want to take the time to find matches and get better. I think Tobal and I are pretty much the only ones trying to play seriously. All the other Americans that do play are pretty casual. One thing that I found pretty interesting, though is that some of my Japanese friends had told me that I was talked about quite a bit over there, which I was pretty surprised to hear. It's kind of cool that they recognize me as good player, but I think it would be awesome if we we got some more good players over here, so that we could compete against them in a tournament, or something. I still have one GG2 goal that I want to achieve, which is to beat Kimera Cryin at least once. He is the only player I can never beat no matter how many times I try. One thing I always wonder is why the gap between him and the other Japanese players seems so large. At first glance he seems like just another really good player, but his strategies are so well thought out. He pretty much never makes a pointless move when it comes to summoning and navigating his servants around the battlefield. btw. I know another fairly decent American player, and his name is Kou2007. He is actually Japanese, but he lives in America. He is a sol and sin player, and he plays regularly. I'm not really sure how often he would want to play with anyone, though. He's a kind of weird guy that randomly pops into games, and leaves after 1 or 2 matches. He also leaves his status on away at all times, so you never actually know when he is available, since he never turns his xbox off. So yeah, if you want to try and contact him for a match, then maybe he would be good practice, since he is pretty much the next best player besides me. I also know that he talks with the Japanese players often, and he probably knows what sites they have all their information on, so I might ask him about that sometime. ahh...there it is, this message about the tournament and comparing U.S. against the Japanese...east vs west, in a tight deadlock of deadly, laggy matches is what inspired my tournament Idea, along with a video interview of some guy back in street fighter 2 when it first came out doing tournaments and stuff. just talking about serious, true competition that got me thinking, "man, I want to beat on some guys for real on GG2." Kimera cryin's Valentine is beastly, but he seems to prefer Sol now (who can blame him? Sol's so fun to play). I have seen him lose to avatar thine (who is no joke) and I have seen him lose in a 2 vs 2 match, where stuff backed fired in his face and he got bush whacked and hunted down. saying he never does mistakes with summoning his units...almost true. he knows whats going on in the map like he has an extra pair of Eyes just to look at the mini map,and pays attention to the most minute details, but I've seen him do stupid shit once or twice (the first time it cost him the match) So I'm sure if you study his videos and practice accordingly, and the lag is in your favor, you could have beaten him panda. but what the hell do I know? gah, he acknowledged me as a serious player, I am speechless! can't wait to beat you up ayumu! :razz: Necrofear, tell me how to do that 384 damage combo With Sol, incase you forget and overlook it in my other psot. EDIT: tournament for friday-saturday (still pending ) just singles for now, will add more according to demand. Blackgenma. anybody else?
Sol.Badguy Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 Hahaha it's not worth knowing, you can do a similar combo for about 340 dmg saving a MC, Plus JJJJJJJ2 taught me and made me promise not to tell
Blackgenma Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 Oh god, if JJJJJJ2 told you it, I don't want to know. he's god awful! ok, so aededyr and Blackgenma for the tournament on friday or saturday necrofear, are you in?
NeoVid Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 JJJ actually figured out something decent? Well, I'm surprised. Don't know why he'd care to keep it secret right now... he's not playing again until he gets a working 360.
Blackgenma Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 JJJ actually figured out something decent? Well, I'm surprised. Don't know why he'd care to keep it secret right now... he's not playing again until he gets a working 360. yeah, thats what I'm saying wow, I came to this board ready to spill acid on sol, he is so much worse than the other characters that it is not even funny, but your reply really help calm me down panda, I appreciate you taking the time to answer my question. honestly I see how a big sol buff like flameAJ keeps away from servant battles, I just keep getting my ass handed to my by my pal boundary who plays sin (who is LEAGUES better that sol. LEAGUES) the game is so friggen unbalanced when it comes to sol and servant battles it's not even funny. I have no Idea how you manage to keep on selecting this character. seriously, when ever I read in the instruction manual and sees how it says the sol's master abilities make up for shitty servants I scream out LIES! and I throw it across the room. I hope the next update will give sol a permanent 100 dragon install or something, he's got like nothing going for him. in all seriousness though, I was about to drop the game and denounce it as terribly imbalanced piece of tripe. thanks for answering though, if you can kick ass with him, I guess he's not a total waste of a character slot. I was gonna drop the character, but I'll man up and stick with him. panda, why do you play as sol? is it for the challenge? I can do the same amount of work with raven as with sol, with half the effort. sin seems to have so many advantages in comparison to sol it's disgusting. you don't even need to try with that jerk off, his range is insanely difficult to punish, and does WAY too much damage, and his units are actually competent. sorry to rant like this, I'm just kind of pissed at the game right now. Edit: made an account in nico video (MUST USE EVERY TOOL TO IMPROVE IN THIS GAME), but navigating the site is a bit of a problem, the translator I'm using is giving me issues. is there a fav feature like youtube, or am I on my own in that regard sorry to fill the topic with a repost, but god damn, I was going back through the topic, and I thinking about how bad I used to be. check out this post WAAAAAYY back during the summer I think, when panda stilled played, and I think it was after blazblue came out. I used to suck REAL bad, and was struggling so much just to be decent in this game. one day while facing my friend and losing to him constantly, I was SERIOUSLY thinking of quiting this game. the only reason I didn't was because panda gave me some advice , and shortly afterward, posted a video of kimera cryin, that I used as my guideline to improve for quite a while. I used to think that Sol was hands the the WORST CHARACTER IN THE GAME. I never got so pissed at the game balanced after this post though. I did vent afterwards in one more posts, but that was more along the lines complaining about my lack skill rather than being angry at the game but I mean, HOLY CRAP was I pissed at this game when I wrote this post. SO FRIGGEN MAD I completely sympathize with those who have trouble with the game now, I forgot how hard it was getting in to it. I'm really glad I wrote those guides now. god I love this thread. any way, yeah, Tournament on friday or saturday blackgenma Aedesyr hey, Aedesyr, post what time it is so I can come up with a tournament time that fits your schedule. I need to calculate the my time and your time so we can all do the tournament. any body else form the EU want in?
Sol.Badguy Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 Can you repost some of that sol-pickmeup good stuff? I find myself getting discouraged with his crappy servents every now and again.
Blackgenma Posted October 28, 2009 Posted October 28, 2009 Ha Ha! read my guide loser! ok fine. There are so many ways you could approach a battle, and more than anything you have to simply be able to adapt and alter your strategy to whichever way you see fit, based upon how the battle is turning out. With Sol servant strategy is not all that important, it's all about being fast spamming blades and drills, and taking out all the enemy servants while trying to keep yours safe.(generally speaking, that is the basis I think of it this way. When playing as other characters your servants do most of the work, when playing as Sol, you do most of the work, so I say with Sol summon whatever will help you in doing most of the work. Also look for easy openings to the opponent's masterghost. If you have your firewheel, and or Engulfer out, you can rush the enemy masterghost and wipe it out if it has little or no servants watching it. If you see an empty ghost next to the enemy masterghost, you can capture it real quick, and throw a capture cannon, which depletes half of the masterghost barrier. That will help you with rushing the masterghost. Don't rely on this strategy too much, though, because your opponent won't fall for it so easily after seeing it once, but it catches people off guard, if you're really quick and sly about setting it up. If you fail to pull off the masterghost rush strategy, it could cost you the match, since the time you spend focusing on that could mean that your opponent is pushing closer to your masterghost. Oh and btw. I don't know if you guys have a nico video account or not, but you can search "gg2" and finds lots of good videos of Japanese players. It's worth noting I play Sol slightly different than Panda, due to my use of units he wouldn't bother with. I place greater emphasis on using all of Sol's units when they present an advantage to Sol, so contrary to what panda says, I do put stronger focus on servant strategy. I have my own reasons for doing that. Kou2007 is still better than me though, so what do I know? he knows what he's doing better than I do, he's a lot more efficient on handling his units than I am. needless to say, Panda is way better than I am, comparing my current skill and his skill when he quit. when I asked him why he plays sol so much, he replied. I play Sol, because he fits my play style the best. I don't find him much of a nuisance at all, and I have an easier time winning with him, then I do most other characters. I don't really know much of anything about navigating nico. I just type something into the search and browse the results. I bookmark something, if I really find it interesting. Here is a good video. kimera cryin (probably the best player) using Sol in a team battle http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm7512693 really though, Sol is a good character, you just need to get used to handling his crappy units and deal with them. you do all the work, they are just there to control the map. it's really hard to play as Sol if your not used to trying to control the map largely by yourself. watching the video that Panda linked in the second post and watching panda's playlist (and studying them!) will help you too. and also reading my guide needless to say. get used to acting on your own, and get used to your units so you can use them to your fullest extent. his crappy units don't bother me anymore honestly. ad Sol as a master is only really dangerous when you honestly know how to fight with him correctly. you need to be good at fighting to show how dangerous Sol can be. practice some combos that do big damage with no tension, and the ones that do tension, make sure they don't bankrupt you, and make sure you have combos for every method of moving in! so in short, watch panda's videos, read my guide (for real, it's good, read it loser!) and practice your ass off. searching for GG2 on nico video helps. I'm going to make a GG2 video topic or something like that before the end of the week. I'll definitely do that ok? lots of resources in one definite place. you'll enjoy videos showcasing skilled players using all the characters, if not as the player, as the opponent. I will also link to Kimera cryin's playlist Directly, and the GG2 broadcast committee as well. I made a youtube playlist for GG2, and although it has pretty much every video panda made, it also has videos panda did not put in his playlist, so I figure you can see a bit more, like a sol getting his ass handed to him by a paradigm in a masters only. the Sol rage quits afterwords oh yeah, and expect to see the combo videos that panda put up and I placed inputs for them on this thread. it would go to waste if I didn't do that. future combo inputs depends on whether I have the time or not. not related: this thread was started in November 2007. the topic creator hasn't been on since march 2009. this thread is OLD. now, on to studying. *grumble*
Aedesyr Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 Your 8:00 pm should be ok. btw, i'm trying to improve my izuna skills but my servants get wiped out every time. Any suggestions? i usually unlock first the ranged units, and after trhat the armoured ones. But my armours are getting killed too easily and the ranged never help me how much i needed them to.
Sol.Badguy Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 Haha thanks for the sol pick-me-up. Another thing I've seen almost every sol including myself do, is try to excell mana quickly by constantly grabbing drills and dropping them off at unguarded ghosts. The only problem with pandas post that I have is that I hate cheap-shotting peoples masterghosts, but since you're playing sol I guess in all actuality it's not that cheap lol. Btw, everyone basically always unlocks queen as your first elite I assume right?
Blackgenma Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 Haha thanks for the sol pick-me-up. Another thing I've seen almost every sol including myself do, is try to excell mana quickly by constantly grabbing drills and dropping them off at unguarded ghosts. The only problem with pandas post that I have is that I hate cheap-shotting peoples masterghosts, but since you're playing sol I guess in all actuality it's not that cheap lol. Btw, everyone basically always unlocks queen as your first elite I assume right? it's basically unlock whatever you feel you want really. I unlock queen second, I suck with making her useful. usually I unlock Engulfer or Firewheel first, depending on what I feel would be more useful. working on improving my red queen my Block head strategy. Gigant is very situational. Your 8:00 pm should be ok. btw, i'm trying to improve my izuna skills but my servants get wiped out every time. Any suggestions? i usually unlock first the ranged units, and after trhat the armoured ones. But my armours are getting killed too easily and the ranged never help me how much i needed them to. I've decided the tounrament wont work. just fight me during the weekend as usual. not enough interested people. as far as Izuna's servants go? uhh..I don't know, try harder? my friend always release the armors second, and he doesn't use the ranged. you need to be intelligent with using your support units, they won't always help you. for example, I say that pencil guys aren't useless, but that doesn't mean I summon pencil guys just for the hell of it, I unlock them, but I only put them on the field if I feel they can help. depending on the opponent, I unlock them after blades, and I might use the before blades if I want to be less predictable.
Xithmos Posted October 29, 2009 Posted October 29, 2009 About Izuna's servants... Don't ever put out his ranged units. They barely deal any damage, and attack very slowly. His armored units shouldn't be dying that fast, but they aren't reliable alone. Mobile units are very useful. They take out ranged units as well as armored and magic (according to it's description iirc). What's this I hear about a tournament? 3:
Blackgenma Posted October 30, 2009 Posted October 30, 2009 what's does "3:" stand for? Izuna's mobiles target support units (magic and range) over other units, but they have no advantage over range units. I was thinking about holding a tournament, but I'm going to push it back to another time. I want the gamefaqs guys in on it, so we can have a big tournament where we can all compete against each other. so I'll (or we) can decide on the rules, the day and time, and we can see how we can make it happen. I was hoping we could do it this Friday or Saturday, but lets push it back a week or two, so, anyone who is interested in a future tournament, if there's enough people willing to compete, I hoping for at least 8. I'll set one up. I'll tell you guys the week we can do it, as well as the day and a time we can all join in. it'll be a day where the gamefaqs guys can play on the weekend (because I can only play on the weekends.) hopefully, I can get boundary in on it too.
Xithmos Posted October 30, 2009 Posted October 30, 2009 I could probably get AJ and Kirby to join. I dunno if Panda fixed his Xbox 360 or re-bought his Guilty Gear 2 game, so he might be out. What expression are you talking about? 3:
Blackgenma Posted October 30, 2009 Posted October 30, 2009 I could probably get AJ and Kirby to join. I dunno if Panda fixed his Xbox 360 or re-bought his Guilty Gear 2 game, so he might be out. What expression are you talking about? 3: that thing is meant to be a frown? uh oh.. here comes the magical powers of editing! I didn't say anything about an expression! YOU CAN'T PROVE IT!:scared:
Blackgenma Posted October 30, 2009 Posted October 30, 2009 What are we talking about? :O we were talking about me setting up a tournament, and I wanted the gamefaqs guys to join, but they can't this weekend. so sometime later, when the gamefaqs guys can play during the weekend (them being AJ and antikirby). when can set it up depends on their availability and whether we have enough people to make a tournament worth doing. I want at least 8, so we would have an equal chance to prove who's the best. besides, I think I was trying to set it up on too short of a notice anyhow. let's just say the Idea is on hiatus for now. I'm pretty sure panda didn't fix his xbox360 yet.
Ayumu Gardevoir Posted October 30, 2009 Posted October 30, 2009 AURGH FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF I can't do it... going to be gone mostly all of November...
Blackgenma Posted October 30, 2009 Posted October 30, 2009 AURGH FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF I can't do it... going to be gone mostly all of November... shoot. good thing we are going to play this weekend. almost missed you.
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