kenja0 Posted October 12, 2010 Posted October 12, 2010 System update. In the loketest video of Bang vs Lambda, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaYyVbjcxUQ Lambda has 5 Primers. She bursted twice and has only 1 left. Bang has 5 Primers and bursts twice and has 2 Primers. Primer reduction is different for each character I think.
St1ckBuG Posted October 12, 2010 Posted October 12, 2010 No, both Rachel and Platinum (from what i've seen) is more in your face than Dizzy. Dizzys rushdown consists of what? A throw and some cross up shenanigans? Stay gdlk Dustloop.
Kazuki Slice Posted October 12, 2010 Posted October 12, 2010 Lambda has 5 Primers. She bursted twice and has only 1 left. Bang has 5 Primers and bursts twice and has 2 Primers. Im pretty sure Bang only bursted once.
shtkn Posted October 12, 2010 Posted October 12, 2010 System update. In the loketest video of Bang vs Lambda, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaYyVbjcxUQ Lambda has 5 Primers. She bursted twice and has only 1 left. Bang has 5 Primers and bursts twice and has 2 Primers. Primer reduction is different for each character I think. i only saw bang burst once. Lambda bursts twice, and is reduced to 1 primer. Bang bursts once and is reduced to 2 primers. This means that defensive burst reduces primers by half rounded up now. (5 to 2 to 1 where in CS1 it would be 5 to 3 to 2). which means the difference between 5 primer and 4 primer characters is much smaller now: they both go to 2 primers after 1 defensive burst. 5 primer chars better look out for guard crushes more now. With this news, this also means system changes are in the cards now, so who knows what will happen: maybe barrier block drains the meter faster, or proration affects untech time differently, or the throw break window is smaller, etc. now i'm really curious.
Lord Knight Posted October 12, 2010 Posted October 12, 2010 Litchi - jC has less hitstun. - 2D, 5D less recovery. - j2D second hit pulls in a small amount. - ItsuuA loses staff on block. ( ◕ ω ◕ ) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
skd Posted October 12, 2010 Posted October 12, 2010 Is that a TIGHTTT !!!!!! or a INTERESTING !!!!!!! I dont play litchi, but i remember from playing you that your use of staff set and call was pretty good, so i think 2D and 5D might help quite a bit, but how bad is ItsuuA losing staff on block? I dont see it being too much ,_, edit: jC nerf 100% necessary
Henaki Posted October 12, 2010 Posted October 12, 2010 No, both Rachel and Platinum (from what i've seen) is more in your face than Dizzy. Dizzys rushdown consists of what? A throw and some cross up shenanigans? WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWW stop posting.
Sophisticat Posted October 12, 2010 Posted October 12, 2010 New primer loss on burst is welcome. I think the current system just isn't working. When was the last time anyone saw a guard being broken? Yeah. If they make it easier to lose primers this mechanic could finally become interesting and a legit strat. As it is, it's pretty negligible unless you play a 4 primer character, and even then it's unlikely you'll see your primers gone any time soon if you know what you're doing.
Lord Knight Posted October 12, 2010 Posted October 12, 2010 My question is, is it 5D/2D with mantenbou or without? With mantenbou, CT 5D was 29F duration. 2D was 38F (fucking shitty). CS1, with mantenbou, 5d is 23F duration, 2D is 27F duration (way way better). Speeding these up will tighten up her pressure even more and give her more options. If they sped up the launches (which I don't think is really necessary) than it'll just tighten up options she already had. ItsuuA losing the staff on block is a bit random. . . don't know what to think about that. Don't really care about jC having less blockstun cause people like to IB > dp anyway :/.
Lord Knight Posted October 12, 2010 Posted October 12, 2010 Oh, well w/e either way, its not like she can do jC > Daisharin like in CT, and jC doesn't have wallbounce so it doesn't matter.
soujiro seta Posted October 12, 2010 Posted October 12, 2010 New primer loss on burst is welcome. I think the current system just isn't working. When was the last time anyone saw a guard being broken? Yeah. If they make it easier to lose primers this mechanic could finally become interesting and a legit strat. As it is, it's pretty negligible unless you play a 4 primer character, and even then it's unlikely you'll see your primers gone any time soon if you know what you're doing. Lol, use carl or noel. You'll understand how stupid 4 primers is and you'll see how easy it is to get guard broken. With this new system everyone except tager will join them in their pain after a burst :bad:. I know tao and haz both have 4, but their mobility makes up for it.
Spirit Juice Posted October 12, 2010 Author Posted October 12, 2010 With this system change, even Tager will be in risk of getting guard broken if he bursts twice in one round. Ten primers to five, then five to two. Bursting twice in one round for some characters or saving both your bursts for round three in some situations may not be that good for some characters.
soujiro seta Posted October 12, 2010 Posted October 12, 2010 With this system change, even Tager will be in risk of getting guard broken if he bursts twice in one round. Ten primers to five, then five to two. Bursting twice in one round for some characters or saving both your bursts for round three in some situations may not be that good for some characters. Imo there's never a reason to save both burst as a 4 primer character. This is the worst thing ever. Even when you might not be in trouble in a round you might as well just burst. Having 1 primer in the last round is just asking to enter danger mode or get guard broken every 5 seconds. This will definitley make characters like lambda/rachel/Mu stronger. I mean bursting against them practically places a "timer till guard is broken" on top your characters head.
Varamathras Posted October 12, 2010 Posted October 12, 2010 System update. In the loketest video of Bang vs Lambda, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaYyVbjcxUQ Lambda has 5 Primers. She bursted twice and has only 1 left. Bang has 5 Primers and bursts twice and has 2 Primers. Primer reduction is different for each character I think. Also this proves 2A 5B still works for Bang. See near the end.
g0th1k4 Posted October 12, 2010 Posted October 12, 2010 mmm but that was in the middle of a combo...maybe just 2a as beginning wont work?
rei-Scarred Posted October 12, 2010 Posted October 12, 2010 Saw a video of loketest Bang gameplay. Feels good to still be high tier these nerfs are blown way out of proportion based on what hes still capable of. And yeah I labeled him still high tier before I remembered that we got 2D jc back. Yeahhhhhh.... I'll just say thanks aksys on that one Also 2A 5B working mid combo but not at the start of a combo defies all laws of the BB combo system. Maybe the person who listed that nerf was a scrub who only tried it once and messed up?
dragontamer Posted October 12, 2010 Posted October 12, 2010 Also 2A 5B working mid combo but not at the start of a combo defies all laws of the BB combo system. Maybe the person who listed that nerf was a scrub who only tried it once and messed up? Actually, it is possible if 2A had a P1 of 50% and a P2 of 60%. I find such massive P1 to be... strange... to say the least... but it is possible. I'd have to go with the "unreliable news" theory.
Kyosuke Kagami Posted October 12, 2010 Posted October 12, 2010 >>I'll just say thanks aksys on that one Too bad Aksys has NOTHING to do with this. New Primer loss thing with green burst is welcome for me. But I have a question: Didn't Bang and HAKUMANZ both have 6 primers? Since when do they have 5?
OmegaZyklon Posted October 12, 2010 Posted October 12, 2010 >>I'll just say thanks aksys on that one Too bad Aksys has NOTHING to do with this. New Primer loss thing with green burst is welcome for me. But I have a question: Didn't Bang and HAKUMANZ both have 6 primers? Since when do they have 5? They both got changed to 5 this loketest.
dragontamer Posted October 12, 2010 Posted October 12, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaYyVbjcxUQ Did Lambda lift her hands on that final hit? It looks like Gravity Field doesn't have invincibility anymore. I swear that was Gravity Field's startup animation.
Kyosuke Kagami Posted October 12, 2010 Posted October 12, 2010 They both got changed to 5 this loketest. Well, at least 1 primer doesn't make such a big difference with them. Then this means no one in game has 6 primers anymore? :s Oh I remember reading about mah bro Hakumanz having all his C attacks gaining speed. Does this mean his lol jC attack is (maybe) as fast as Jin's?
Justice7541 Posted October 12, 2010 Posted October 12, 2010 2A 5B is back? Oh good times are here again. Now if only they would get rid of the silly tech on 2C. It doesn't need to be LOL I CAN JUST THROW THIS OUT AND HAVE TWENTY MINUTES TO HITCONFIRM ANYTHING I WANT AFTER IT tier but being able to at least do 2C 6D would be nice. Bang having a 3-seal combo on standing and 0 seals on crouching is just way out of proportion. Also I see no bounce on D nail.
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