Tofu Warrior Posted October 24, 2010 Posted October 24, 2010 every characters 5B and 5C is air unblockable. no word on drives though. If this is true, then we can already start getting a sense of which characters this will benefit the most. Like usual, Tager gets screwed. 5C is too slow, so it's not a threat. Make 5B air unblockable is dope...but too bad it doesn't combo into anything! You can't even cancel an anti-air 5B into 2C or raw Collider AFAIK. Lol stay free.
Crosell Posted October 24, 2010 Posted October 24, 2010 It means everybody brush up on your footsies. We getting SF up in this. YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH, sorry your avatar always gets me.
Skye Posted October 24, 2010 Posted October 24, 2010 It means everybody brush up on your footsies. We getting SF up in this. Rush down? What's that?
smooshman Posted October 24, 2010 Posted October 24, 2010 If this is true, then we can already start getting a sense of which characters this will benefit the most. jin's is looking good.... since 5B>5C>2C>5C>6C (all of which are air unblockable AFAIK right now)..... jump and barrier away will probably end in some very bad things. Of course they could just bork him in the end for lolz.
mAc Chaos Posted October 24, 2010 Posted October 24, 2010 If this is true, then we can already start getting a sense of which characters this will benefit the most. Like usual, Tager gets screwed. 5C is too slow, so it's not a threat. Make 5B air unblockable is dope...but too bad it doesn't combo into anything! You can't even cancel an anti-air 5B into 2C or raw Collider AFAIK. Lol stay free. Couldn't you use it as a tick into 360, like Bang uses his 2A as a hit confirm for his command throw?
Justice7541 Posted October 24, 2010 Posted October 24, 2010 Did I miss the Litchi and Bang nerfs? Seriously. Where are they? We've been seeing all kinds of hard and fast stuff that seriously brings down characters who were already mid-tier (Poor Lambda, WTF?) but where are the Litchi and Bang specific nerfs? For all the whining I saw the Bang players doing in some of the earlier threads, it doesn't seem he got hit nearly as hard as most of the lower tier people, and there's hardly been anything in the way of changes for Litchi at all. Are they expecting the system changes to somehow hit the top tier people harder? Even if they DO, they're still going to be the top tier thanks to the nerfs on everyone else. I just don't get it. Bang techable 2C and non-wallbouncing 623B are buffs, yo. He still gets seals just as easily using C nail loops and now he's going to have hilariously good bomper setups. Now he can 5A 5B 2B 2C bumper and mixup off the bumper if they emergency roll and 2B 6C air combo > corner bumper if they don't. Plus he actually has good corner combos now there's no tradeoff between mixup/pressure and damage in the corner now. I am predicting that Bang will continue to be the most hated character in BBCS2, except that instead of damage (omg 3k damage 2 much) people will be whining about bumper setups. His only real nerf is that he doesn't do quite as much damage overall per combo and that he can't get seals on crouch.
Tofu Warrior Posted October 24, 2010 Posted October 24, 2010 Couldn't you use it as a tick into 360, like Bang uses his 2A as a hit confirm for his command throw? If your 5B keeps them on the ground, then yeah, you definitely could. You could also confirm 5B into 3C, or 2B > 2C if you're close enough. If you hit them with 5B late, you'll kick them while they're in the air, which would allow your opponent to air tech and safely get away. Tager's tightest gatling into 5B is after 5A of course, but if you IB the 5A, you can easily jump away, even jab 5B before it comes out.
huey253 Posted October 24, 2010 Posted October 24, 2010 Bang techable 2C and non-wallbouncing 623B are buffs, yo. He still gets seals just as easily using C nail loops and now he's going to have hilariously good bomper setups. Now he can 5A 5B 2B 2C bumper and mixup off the bumper if they emergency roll and 2B 6C air combo > corner bumper if they don't. Plus he actually has good corner combos now there's no tradeoff between mixup/pressure and damage in the corner now. I am predicting that Bang will continue to be the most hated character in BBCS2, except that instead of damage (omg 3k damage 2 much) people will be whining about bumper setups. His only real nerf is that he doesn't do quite as much damage overall per combo and that he can't get seals on crouch. This post is full of alot of wrong. techable 2C and no wallbounce 623B are both huge nerfs, which is why CS2 bang's midscreen dmg will probably be worse than rachels. C nail loops probably wont work anymore because of jD proration nerf. bang's 2C is techable if your not in the air in CS1, so don't expect ridiculous 2C bumper setups, because they are already possible and viable, and you don't have enough time to get mixup off bumper right after 2C because of how slow it is. daifunka is also much harder to combo into. i'm totally not complaining about CS2 bang, because i actually think he is super good right now. your post was just full of fail sorry
Justice7541 Posted October 24, 2010 Posted October 24, 2010 This post is full of alot of wrong. techable 2C and no wallbounce 623B are both huge nerfs, which is why CS2 bang's midscreen dmg will probably be worse than rachels. C nail loops probably wont work anymore because of jD proration nerf. bang's 2C is techable if your not in the air in CS1, so don't expect ridiculous 2C bumper setups, because they are already possible and viable, and you don't have enough time to get mixup off bumper right after 2C because of how slow it is. daifunka is also much harder to combo into. i'm totally not complaining about CS2 bang, because i actually think he is super good right now. your post was just full of fail sorry Uh do you even play Bang? Do you even understand how bumpers work or are you just one of the Bangs that only use D nail and Daifunka? His bumper game just went from gimmicky to beastly now that he can guarantee emergency roll and/or free corner setup.
DogsofWar Posted October 24, 2010 Posted October 24, 2010 5th test tomorrow? lol! hope to see ragy changes...and hope to see lambda Tk.saber back, or at least her 6c... note: thank good that thing of "D" moves as "air-umblock." not been true...lambda-hazama would bee too broken... No LAAAAGINNAAA changes needed. Arc seems to be on a nerfing spree, at least that's what i got out of it. Everyone seems to be crying about their churracktur gettin nerfed so i figure no news is good news. Worse comes to worst, someone can always Hoax some new Ragna info.
Partialartist Posted October 24, 2010 Posted October 24, 2010 Bang buffs. Something about a faster 5D?
huey253 Posted October 24, 2010 Posted October 24, 2010 i beat dacidbro in a money match so i'm easily the best player in america so get at me.
DaiAndOh Posted October 24, 2010 Posted October 24, 2010 Bang buffs. Something about a faster 5D? 0_o cool. If 2d is air unblockable and jcable on block, totally throwing it in pressure strings ^_^. i beat dacidbro in a money match so i'm easily the best player in america so get at me. I'm a mod and my blade signature is longer, I'm the best in the world get at me!
huey253 Posted October 24, 2010 Posted October 24, 2010 but, you quoted a dumb opinion, i quoted something that is hilariously wrong. but you win this battle, bang moderator, you win.... in other news: JD having more prorations is soooooo sadlife, its my favorite move. ON TOPIC: a friend of mine translated on the JBBS that all of the "killer" moves in BBCS are being removed, as in that they are just being nerfed. an example of a "killer" move that was listed was litchi's staffed jC or taokaka 6C
Partialartist Posted October 24, 2010 Posted October 24, 2010 Occurred early · 5D The wall-bound CH · 5D Looser · JD Shinjuku correction? That's what Google translate is giving me, from the blog.
unsanctifier Posted October 24, 2010 Posted October 24, 2010 I could sort of understand Litchi's j.C[m] but..Taokaka's 6C? It isn't like that thing hits every 10 seconds in the game...
huey253 Posted October 24, 2010 Posted October 24, 2010 you totally shouldn't be getting hit by litchi's jC every 10 seonds. infact, if you ever do get hit by litchi's jC you should probably burst right away.
unsanctifier Posted October 24, 2010 Posted October 24, 2010 But it is a lot easier to hit WITH, ya know what I mean!? I guess carl's j.B is in that category too... Oh and Rachel's...?
huey253 Posted October 24, 2010 Posted October 24, 2010 Rachel's level 3 j2C, but that probably won't be affected.
DogsofWar Posted October 24, 2010 Posted October 24, 2010 Gotta go with Huey on this one... His Blade quote makes me laugh everytime i read it. On Topic: any news on other "Killer" moves being nerfed? I know you said ALL of them but since i haven't heard that term used too often can you give other examples for the simple folk?
Skye Posted October 24, 2010 Posted October 24, 2010 Hazama has a new gatling. 2c > 5c Litchi's j.c (no staff) is untechable again. http://generalnantoka.blog35.fc2.com/
huey253 Posted October 24, 2010 Posted October 24, 2010 when they used the term, i guess it was refering to moves that have such good proration that they lead into ridiculous amounts of damage. noel's 4B arakune's jC ragna's 2C litchi's jC and 2C taokaka 2C and 6C and other moves like that
LunaKage Posted October 24, 2010 Posted October 24, 2010 when they used the term, i guess it was refering to moves that have such good proration that they lead into ridiculous amounts of damage. noel's 4B lol wut That move doesn't exist. If you're talking about 4D, that move has the same basic proration as 5D and 2D, plus it can only combo on Counter/Fatal.
huey253 Posted October 24, 2010 Posted October 24, 2010 its 4D and i believe they are trying to get rid of STUPID dmg off certain moves. litchi's jC isn't really scary until you get CH by it either
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