[CS2] Platinum the Trinity Actual Discussion Thread The First

[dummyacct7]

Why play Blazblue if you aren't going to press D?

Many Hakumen players didn't realize they had a D button... But I digress.

[Urichinan]

Alright, well I'll wait until we confirmation about whether or not you need to dash before I add the combo.

[HiagoX]

Alright, well I'll wait until we confirmation about whether or not you need to dash before I add the combo.

Gyuudon didn't include any dashes in the combo notation. So I'd say you don't need it.

If you do need it, just add it to the combo when we confirm it.

[Cirno]

Yeah, that's fine. It's not like we can practice it yet anyway.

[Hurricane Rev]

Why use Platinum if you aren't going to use her items? Why play Arakune if you aren't going to curse your opponent? Why play Noel if you don't ever use chain revolver? Why play Blazblue if you aren't going to press D?

Platinum can win a match without her items/pressing the D button. Yes, it does help with Platinum's game, ALOT but she doesn't really need it to win IMO. Also, Some people just don't want to use it (which I don't know why). Platinum D moves are different to Arakune, Noel and some other characters D moves. Most of the cast D moves really need it for their combos which platinum doesn't really have to use it for that seeing how her D moves are base around her items.

[Danzai]

Platinum loses a huge element in her overall game if you don't use items. Platinum CAN be played without items, but they're still an important part of her strategy. Playing Platinum without items is like using only half of the character. Items can really help Platinum out where she would otherwise be in a pinch.

[Hurricane Rev]

Platinum loses a huge element in her overall game if you don't use items. Platinum CAN be played without items, but they're still an important part of her strategy. Playing Platinum without items is like using only half of the character. Items can really help Platinum out where she would otherwise be in a pinch.

Yeah, I know that her items are very important for PLat's game. I'm just saying that you don't HAVE to use it.

[Chaoschao222]

Like Haku, he doesn't need to counter you...

[Hurricane Rev]

Like Haku, he doesn't need to counter you...

Yeah but it doesn't really change haku's game that much

[Starlight777]

That Platinum needs to practice anyway. The whole time I was watching I was thinking "use 214D if you cant use the pan properly,why hold on to it if you don't know what the heck to do with it!" It's like he forgot about the D button and that he could discard items.

[Cirno]

Platinum can win a match without her items/pressing the D button. Yes, it does help with Platinum's game, ALOT but she doesn't really need it to win IMO. Also, Some people just don't want to use it (which I don't know why). Platinum D moves are different to Arakune, Noel and some other characters D moves. Most of the cast D moves really need it for their combos which platinum doesn't really have to use it for that seeing how her D moves are base around her items.

I'm not arguing if it's physically possible to play the character without using items. That much is obvious. Hell, you can play the whole game without pressing any buttons but D, but it isn't going to get you very far. Not to mention you're sapping a good 60% of the fun out of the character if you don't use their drive. The factor that truly makes them unique in this particular fighting game.

Also; Pan? Hammer? Platinum most certainly uses her drive in combos. Which, of course, wasn't my point at all. There's more to this game than combos, and more to everyone's drive than combos.

[Danzai]

You really need to get a grasp on not only the fundamentals of the game itself down first, but also the basics of your character before you start worrying about combos. There's all kinds of combos you can do, but if you don't have the basics down, then they don't do you much good.

[Hurricane Rev]

Cirno: I don't think you understood my post or my overall point. Also, there were some things that you said which I didn't even say or I already known all of those stuffs. I would reply back to your post but I'm tired and It will go round in circle. So, let just end it there, shall we?

Danzai: Was that post for me?

[TD]

everyone is right. plat SHOULD be using her drive (If for no other reason, it's hella fun). HOWEVER one cannot expect too much from a week playing a new character.

the verdict? give it time. there isnt much we can do, folks!

l havent seen anyone abuse swallow moon yet. hell, have l even seen it used? l still havent seen it or foreign melody. =/

[Danzai]

I've seen Swallow Moon used sporadically. Sometimes it's only for a second and you won't really see it if you don't pay attention. I think people are still trying to figure out what to do with that move. I haven't seen Foreign Melody yet as far as I remember.

Was that post for me?

Nah. Cirno mentioned there being more to the game than combos, so I just made a general statement.

[Konton]

From what it LOOKS like, swallow moon is being used in air to ground blockstrings to sneak in more overheads and throw off instant blocking. However, it kind of looks like it might cancel the recovery of some of her attacks.

[TD]

hmm, l have heard that people have been tking swallow moon for overheads. l dont know how great this is since l dont know the startup or recovery frames for it. like you said it may just be a use for recovery cancelling and (gimmicky?) overheads. l also hear it's a bit controllable.

but im really interested in mami circular. that move is so dangerous anywhere near the corner... man, l cant wait to see her fully exploited.

[Yggjrasil]

oh you guys, D is the only way you play Blazblue. Try playing Lambda vs Ragna without D swords.

[LunaKage]

Try playing Noel without drives. like Noel vs. Tager.

[Cirno]

Cirno: I don't think you understood my post or my overall point.

Well, your 'point' changed a few times during the conversation, so yeah I might have missed the transition somewhere. I'm fine with ending the discussion, though.

On the topic of Swallow Moon, aside from the normal air to ground extra overheads approach, I've seen someone IAD into it, jab, and instantly land for a unbelievably quick overhead. Looked faster than 2D > j.b with Rachel. Loving the versatility with it, and just about everything else she has. ( ´∀`)

[HiagoX]

Try playing Noel without drives. like Noel vs. Tager.

Try playing Bang without his Drive.

Oh wait, you actually can.

[Yggjrasil]

I think practicing May blockstrings on GGAC is a pretty creative way of trying to grasp how Platina`s mix-up works for now.

Edited December 15, 2010 by Yggjrasil

[Hurricane Rev]

l havent seen anyone abuse swallow moon yet. hell, have l even seen it used? l still havent seen it or foreign melody. =/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLaVQ0tXdgc#t=6m4s

@9:54, Platinum does swallow moon. Cirno said it all really.

I think practicing May blockstrings on GGAC is a pretty creative way of trying to grasp how Platina`s mix-up works for now.

Yep, that is what i've been doing as well.

Edited December 15, 2010 by Hurricane Rev

[Halcyone3]

Try playing Bang without his Drive.

Oh wait, you actually can.

u're not playing bang right unless u FRKZ, real talk.

srsly whats this talk of using drives or not? some characters depend less on drive than others, but who really cares how strong they are without them? fact is they are always going to be usable, and if u are not using them, u will be less effective than someone who does, period.

[moofpie]

Foreign Melody has been used quite a bit in the past few videos. It's the move that looks like a ground version of Air Persia. The latest Platinum video shows it being used a lot. Don't think you can follow it up midscreen without rapid canceling.