Cirno Posted April 26, 2011 Posted April 26, 2011 I saw Cirno do a 6b dash 5C at the very start of his combo vid, is that corner specific too? Posted this in the combo discussion thread: "I guess I've failed to mention this, but 6B chains into most everything so long as you space it properly. If it connects at the maximum range of the attack, you have about 12 frames to connect another attack. This would include dashing 5A, 5C, 2B, standing 5B etc. At lesser than max ranges, you can still connect dashing 5A or standing 5C, but the distance has to be recognized, otherwise the opponent may just as well block it. It's decent for resetting pressure if they do block it, although." And no, it's not corner specific.
Yggjrasil Posted April 26, 2011 Posted April 26, 2011 Whats an ideal mix-up pressure string for Plat in the corner? 5A > 5A > TK Swallow Moon > 5A > 2B > Grab?
Cirno Posted April 27, 2011 Posted April 27, 2011 I wouldn't say there's an "ideal" mix-up string for Platinum since she has so many possibilities. stuff > TK Swallow Moon > stuff is pretty much the idea, but 'stuff' can be replaced with so much. Anything JCable into TK Swallow Moon works pretty well, and I've even seen people TK Swallow Moon > land > TK Swallow Moon. There's just too much availability there. Of course, you shouldn't get too greedy, especially if they have a DP. As for the bombs stuff Duqs was saying on the last page; 6A > bombs > 2C works, but you can't follow it up with anything midscreen. It's better to do 6A > bombs > 66 > 6C > dj.C > Air Persia, but it also seems like 6A > bombs > 6C > j.236C > barrier cancel > j.b > stuff would work, but the timing is pretty strict. I may try it more later, but as for now it's not really that worth it. 6A > single bomb > 66 > 6C > j.236C > j.5C > 6A > 236B is better for corner carry, does more damage. In the corner(/close to corner), a single bomb after 6A is also better, as you can do 6A > bomb > 2C > 236B > (66) 6C > j.236C > j.5C > 22C > 5C > 6A > 236B, which nets about 3k.
Duqs Posted April 27, 2011 Posted April 27, 2011 Is there a difference in recovery time if you use one bomb vs three bombs? Yeah I read that a while ago in the combo section, no wonder i can't get 6b to work properly =D And yuh, i do agree that plat doesn't have an "idealized" overhead blockstring (i'd call it an autopilot blockstring though if there ever was one, like makoto's 2a>5b>5cc>6b(overhead)5c). Best thing about plat is she can fire off a 6b from almost anywhere in her string (you can try for a reset if you're daring enough), and she has a tk swallow moon. Lol i saw swallow moon>land>dramatic sally XD Oh yeah, what do you guys usually use your 50% meter for? I find myself DA-ing more than often than most characters that i've used XD
dummyacct7 Posted April 27, 2011 Posted April 27, 2011 Is there a difference in recovery time if you use one bomb vs three bombs? Oh yeah, what do you guys usually use your 50% meter for? I find myself DA-ing more than often than most characters that i've used XD Startup and recovery for bombs is the same regardless if you 5D or 214D. Stuff like that can be found in the frame data. As for heat, almost always RC, unless frying pan/hammer loop > super will kill. RC makes for much better options mid-screen and lets you toss out random mami circulars without worrying about them being blocked.
TD Posted April 27, 2011 Posted April 27, 2011 Startup and recovery for bombs is the same regardless if you 5D or 214D. Stuff like that can be found in the frame data. As for heat, almost always RC, unless frying pan/hammer loop > super will kill. RC makes for much better options mid-screen and lets you toss out random mami circulars without worrying about them being blocked. rcing with plat is great. however, my suggestion is to save heat. plat has amazing corner carry and cs2 favors the corner. l suppose if the opponent is a bit reckless mami is always a threat, but with her poor defensive options (everyone knows shes going to dp if she has bat at this point), id save heat for defense and be a bit more patient about getting in with her - though, the threat of mami is quite rewarding despite the expense of resource.
Hurricane Rev Posted April 27, 2011 Posted April 27, 2011 I would use heat for both Supers and RC. She has a really Strong pressure/mix ups game and RCing some of her moves would make her offensive game alot better. And both of her supers are pretty good and does pretty good damage. Though, like Tempest Dahlia said, I would sometimes save my heat for some characters and use the heat for defense if needed.
Cirno Posted April 27, 2011 Posted April 27, 2011 It's definitely very situational for heat usage, but I'm often looking out for a chance to use Miracle Jeanne. If I land a 5C > Mami or 5B > 3C close to corner and feel they won't burst/can't burst, then I'll RC to follow up. If the proration doesn't seem to be worth the heat usage, then I'll just Dream Sally oki and save the heat. And of course, if I have an opportunity to do the hammer loop and feel they won't burst/can't burst, then I'll go for CDT at the end. If I'm at 100% heat, then I might CDT as a reversal, and rapid if they block. I may also rapid if it hits into 2C > Dream Sally/Mami (depending on location) > stuff. I also really enjoy Mami > RC on block, especially if RC'd early, for a quick crossup.
Hurricane Rev Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 (edited) Well, It Looks like we finally got ourselve a mod for the PLatinum Board. Congrats Cirno. Darn It! I Wanted to become a Plat mod. I guess that's what happens when I don't post on here often EDIT: Pulsr is also a mod for this board. Edited April 29, 2011 by Hurricane Rev
SoWL Posted April 29, 2011 Posted April 29, 2011 Well, It Looks like we finally got ourselve a mod for the PLatinum Board. Congrats Cirno. That's a well-deserved promotion, I say. Congratulations, may your magic defeat the entropy of this board. Hey, maybe we will even get a funny board subtitle, too!
Yggjrasil Posted April 30, 2011 Posted April 30, 2011 A May mod as Plat Mod?! D: I've never been so fucking hype in my life for a character board!
Cirno Posted April 30, 2011 Posted April 30, 2011 (edited) Thanks folks, I'll (continue) be(ing) your すごいａｓふＣＫ pilot through this crazy board. Congratulations to my co-moderator pulsr as well, as I'm sure he'll show up soon. Congratulations, may your magic defeat the entropy of this board. Hey, maybe we will even get a funny board subtitle, too! never forget that being meguca was suffering A funny board subtitle! I'll work on seeing about this happening. Edited April 30, 2011 by Cirno
zreb Posted April 30, 2011 Posted April 30, 2011 uh oh my very large friend plat desperately needs funny board subtitle at this point.
Hurricane Rev Posted April 30, 2011 Posted April 30, 2011 Can someone tell me why Pulsr is a mod for this board please? I'm not trying to hate or anything and I know that he is a mod for the May boards but Platinum isn't exactly like May. Also, I just don't see him post in the Platinum board that much. Again I'm not trying to hate or anything. I just want to know why? Sorry if I'm sounding rude which I'm not trying to.
RadRed Posted April 30, 2011 Posted April 30, 2011 Because he's Pulsr. That's honestly the best answer you're likely going to get.
LunaKage Posted April 30, 2011 Posted April 30, 2011 Because he's Pulsr. That's honestly the best answer you're likely going to get. Actually this is pretty much correct. I suppose Shtkn and Pulsr know each other irl and Pulsr expressed interest in modding for Plat.
Chaoschao222 Posted April 30, 2011 Posted April 30, 2011 Can someone tell me why Pulsr is a mod for this board please? I'm not trying to hate or anything and I know that he is a mod for the May boards but Platinum isn't exactly like May. Also, I just don't see him post in the Platinum board that much. Read: ever But yeah, because he's pulsr is the most plausible answer.
Hurricane Rev Posted April 30, 2011 Posted April 30, 2011 (edited) Because he's Pulsr. Who is Pulsr? Is he a really good May player in the US (or another country)? Has he been in the community for a long time? etc Read: ever. I'm not too sure what you mean but I'm guessing it is something to do with my grammar? If so, My bad lool Edited April 30, 2011 by Hurricane Rev
Yggjrasil Posted April 30, 2011 Posted April 30, 2011 It's like this, Shtkn made his choice. He thought it was the best one (It probably is). If we're unsatisfied with it, then we just need to deal with it. So far, Cirno's doing the best he can. The least we can do is support him, and pulsr will eventually come on and put in his input.
Cirno Posted April 30, 2011 Posted April 30, 2011 I'm sure he will, there's no real point in debating it at this time. It's only been a day, after all. Give 'em a bit. Anyway, sorry I haven't been doing more. Since last Thursday I've either been in doctor's appointments, hospitals, or simply bedridden. At this point it's nothing to worry about though, but I'm still pretty sick. Once I get over it I'll pick up the pace, but I'll still do what I can in the meantime. Also. You know what? I think a new thread is in order. It's been a while, and we've come a long way. Due to the high raw content of good (archive worthy) gameplay information, I'll stick this thread in the archive. I'm very pleased with how it's turned out, and I think this thread's life has just about reached its end. Will we stop, though? No. We couldn't do that. We'll keep on. We'll keep on, because we know, that being Meguca was suffering!
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